see he loves camping, loosing his x box is nothing to him, we have taken it before, he still doesnt have his DS back, and doesnt care.

he loves going away and spending time with his grandfather and camping as he doenst have to shwoer or wash or brush his teeth and can play in dirt all day.

we have stopped tv before did nothing, stopped computer time did nothing, stopped him riding his bike to school so i had to drive him, did nothing he didnt care.

but this time i think he is caring and hurting because he was really wanting it. and i think it may just sink in that the behaviour is not allowed. its just so hard. he just ahs a meh i dont care attitude.