thread: Why women blame other women for being victims of domestic violence

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  1. #1
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jun 2008
    In snuggle land
    4,499

    I think that's fascinating. I've not been in a physically abusive relationship but I have been in an emotionally controlling relationship. I know my friends and family were concerned. They continually told me so. I even had major fallings out about it. I did not see it as abusive. I now look back and see myself as being a bloody idiot who didn't know I deserved better and I am thankful I woke up one day and walked out. It took me months afterwards to work out that, yes, it was abusive, and, no, he was never going to change. "Love" is not enough. It does not magically fix everything. Him being able to make me laugh did not make up for the fear and the tears and the denigration of my self-worth. I also remember how deeply ashamed I was at how I had allowed myself to be sucked in, that I ignored and abused people who loved me, that I sold myself short the way I had, that I'd wasted years of my life.

    I can see that. I understand that. But I still get enormously frustrated at women who stay. Women who scoff at the word "abuse" because they don't see it. Even though for those on the outside, what she is being subjected to is very much abuse. Maybe physical abuse is easier to spot. But that day in day out of being demeaned, neglected, ignored, yelled at, not talked to, looked down on, being controlled..... that and more are all part of abuse. I suppose because I have lived it and seen it happen to others, then I know it's abuse and it's frustrating that women who are in it don't see it that way.

    I don't know that that is blaming the "victim". People have a choice on how they live their lives. If they scoff at support then it's very hard to keep supporting her. Yes, maybe we can be there to catch her if she falls. But when she knows she's being abused and still goes back, that's hard to deal with. When she doesn't know she's being abused, all you can do is stand back and wait for her to come to terms with it herself. And be there if she asks for help.

    In my case, there were no kids, thankfully. There was no physical abuse and I still had financial control of my life. I realise being threatened, having your kids threatened makes it harder to leave. Having no money makes it harder to leave. I guess I struggle to understand, how, knowing that someone is violent and controlling, but a woman gets up the guts to leave, why still allow the abuser access to yor life? Why still be sucked into their emotional blackmail etc? Why not cut the ties, have any kid access done through community services and have as little communication as possible? I realise I've not expereinced it, so I cannot understand. This is probably what I struggle with most. Once you know it is abuse, why subject yourself to it again and again and again? How can you support someone who does that to themselves, to their kids?

  2. #2

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    Thanks for posting. There is just one thing that I find myself wanting to know more about....
    But abusive relationships don’t start with violence, Reinecke-Clayton said. Abusers slowly gain control over their victims by first isolating them in manipulative ways, such as asking them to stay home and spend time with them instead of going out with friends. Over time, the victim’s friends stop reaching out to her. The same kind of manipulation works to push away the victim’s family. Eventually the psychological manipulation turns to physical violence. But by then, the victim has usually been in a relationship with her abuser for a long time.
    I have read the same paragraph in other articles about abuse but I do find myself questioning it. TBH most of the men who I have known to be physically abusive don't really seem to have the sophistication to engage in such prolonged, deliberate manipulation before becoming abusive. They were just ****heads who got violent when things got tough.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jan 2010
    Shoe Heaven
    4,839

    As somebody who got out of an abusive relationship, Onyx it is true, my x didn't start out as openly abusive, he started out with wanting to spend time with me on weekends, wanting to be with only me, it got to the point my friends stopped asking me out with them because I'd end up cancelling because of my x. He was good that the whole "but I want to spend time with you on the weekends" emotional blackmail. It got to the point that the only friends I had were the ones he allowed me to have, which were his friends.

    I thought the same thing as most before he came into my life, that women who stayed in DV situations were fools, I now know better. I am so glad I was able to get out of it. I still have family that are incredulous that I allowed myself to get in that situation.

  4. #4

    Jul 2009
    Australia
    5,102

    I hope my SIL is still stalking me and reads this.

    We stopped talking again because she tried to tell me that ALL women who get beaten CHOOSE to stay and that its "easy" to just get up and walk away and there would be "no way" she would ever let a man hit her. Its not always so black and white. She upset me quite badly but *I* was the horrible one for not accepting her opinion which wasn't the case telling me that my mum CHOSE to get beaten her entire 10 year marriage, nevermind the fact if my mum left he would hunt her down and kill her and us kids. Or a story i mentioned about a woman my mum knew who was forced to have over 10 kids to a man who beat her everyday, would force himself onto her, make her have his kids and wouldnt let her stay in hospital after giving birth she had to come home and have sex with him no matter if she had stitches or was bleeding. But this woman CHOSE that life apparently.

    And for that i will NEVER respect or talk to my SIL ever again.

    I don't think anyone has the right to judge a woman who is in a DV situation, you can offer help but at the end of the day its her decision whether she stays or goes. Sometimes they really are under the delusion the man loves her.

    People know my story, i won't repeat it for others but it has taken a LONG time to overcome it. I will never fully forgive him for anything but we have moved on, i have let him know its to never happen again. But this really is a touchy subject and people have different opinions.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Brisbane
    711

    Why not cut the ties, have any kid access done through community services and have as little communication as possible?
    Partly because although there are various organisations (govt and ngo) out there - they're not cohesive, there's not enough funding, legislation does not translate to reality etc etc etc