Yeah thats the point, DS hates being in the stroller already, i can only keep him in for the bare necessity and as he gets more independant i can see it getting worse so i really don't see the point of a double pram that he wont want to be in.

Sounds like a few of you have managed which is great! Ds has a backpack harness which he likes and that keeps him from running off currently so i think we might keep practising with that.