thanks nic it is a lot to take in at once but at least it gives us a bit of a guide to go by i'm sure it will get clearer as we go along. we have our blood tests and sperm count next week and then we dont see lance untill early february so that gives me a bit of time to get my head around it all but hears hoping that it all goes well. thanks for all the information i really appreciate that you took the time to get it all back to me.