LOL Onyx!!! I love your comment that they are decent people - I think that is a great compliment and agree you do need to have some shared time/experiences to be friends. I guess from my ss's point of view my sisters and I were taking their mum's attention and love possibly so that has fueled the fire to some degree, however we are now all adults with kids of our own it is just silly.
Trish - that must be hard, you are so right about it being the same, as you are stating what is acceptable and appropriate in front of your kids.
Pac - that relationship sounds great for your DD, awesome!