I hear where you're coming from Sushee, but we feel how we feel, no matter what others tell us we should feel. Can we at least make it a sticky?

It's more as a courtesy to those that are still struggling to become parents that the idea of somewhere we can chat without feeling guilty is appealing. It's the same reason people are expected to move on to the "pregnancy after LTTTC" forum once they get a bfp.

It's not to exclude those that have not yet had a baby, but it does mean that everyone is aware that it is an area where children may be mentioned. I know there are other areas on bb that are for talking about children, but there needs to be a place within LTTTC where we can feel free to mention our children.

I know that we have just as much right to feel grief from our secondary infertility, however, I can still imagine how others that don't have any children may view it.

This has been my first thread that I've really posted on, and the only reason I did so was because it was an invitation to mothers doing ivf. Until then, I'd just been a lurker!