Anyone here 42 and over -and successful ??

[Lissie]

Good luck bettyboop with appt on thursday at hospital - hope all goes well.
Hey got AF this morning then quick dash to hospital for blood test - so i can start my injections tonight just have to wait for dosage from Dr D Lok in Sydney. Yippie on the road now.

[bettyboop]

lissie must be about the first time you are pleased to get AF and get things started.

[Lissie]

Yep - this is the only time i look forward to AF - funny isn't it - usually hate her but sooooo glad to see her this morning. Funny though im feeling so calm right now - i guess you just get to the stage where you realise that no amount of stressing is going to help anymore and what will be will be i just hope to all hope that i get the prize!
Time will tell. to all.

[AustraJoey]

Hi all,
Good luck Lissie and Bettyboop with your appointments.
AF came yesterday and I am a bit low and teary, my temp chart for this month looked great for once. I will have the laparoscopy on July 5 and see what happens, but I'm losing hope. Wish I could rewind my bio clock a few years!!
Jo

[bettyboop]

Austrajoey sorry AF arrived,dont worry last month i was a mess when AF arrived, i think we would all like to turn the clock back afew years.Hopefully once you have had the laparoscopy thing will be all go.

[blackduckies]

Hi girls, Jo I really feel for you, hopefully after your lap things will start to happen. Stay strong you give me hope, but I also understand where you are coming from. My AF turned up today first time since last MC, but I don't hold out hope for this cycle. I feel so run down I guess two MC in a row will do that to you, and because I feel depressed I'm not really looking after myself, just a bit fragile at the moment. I'm seeing a new doc on the 21st so Af has turned up too early (I knew it would happen) so I don't think they will be able to do anything this cycle. So I get another month older!!! Damn.
Lissie I have a good feeling about you, it's your time. You sound very relaxed, donor sperm etc. It's going to happen for someone and we are all having tests etc, so I guess we are out of action. Can't wait to hear about you progress, hopefully it gets me feeling positive. Betty good luck not to many more days now, hopefully they can do something.
Also I wanted you all to know that I really appreciate talking to you all, it really helps me get things out that other people don't know about or just don"t understand, but I don't really feel up to the feedback thing, so please take this as my feedback. Any chat is much looked forward to, and helpful to me. So many thanks. Pam.

[bettyboop]

Pam , sorry AF arrived ,wow i wish she would go away from us all for 9 months.good luck on seeing the new doc on thursday.It is really great to be able to talk to you all to, some poeple just dont understand wow i hope my doc does fingers crossed.

[Lissie]

Hi Girls,
Thanks for the positive feedback as sometimes we really need it.
Pam sorry AF arrived and that you are feeling down - please please stay positive we need you to.
Betty me too - i so wish there was a magic pill to turn the clock back - i still kick myself for starting this sooner. I just thought it was so simple go to ivf and fall pregnant but not so - but i've come to realise that we have regrets as it just eats you up you just have to press forward and hope for the best and know somehow it will work.
Jo - sorry AF arrived and that you are feeling teary - i know what you mean - please don't loose hope - thats the only thing we have left now is HOPE -
I was thinking about it yesterday and i too got a little down - what if it doesn't work again - will i or should i try again and when do you say enough is enought - i just don't know anymore - but i guess its just wait and see stuff - sometimes i think i'm just pulling at straws and my time is up but then i hear of another woman older than me falling pregnant and i think hey i can still do it. And then if it does work im so paranoid about another m/c its not funny - how much heartach does one heart have to take??
Started injections last night - hubby is so good at giving needles i never really feel it the only one i hate is the trigger injection which is the last injection you get prior to egg pick up and its very thick and does sting alot - hey but i guess thats nothing compared to labour! What we woman do to get what we want -there is no end. I honestly do not think a man could do this. Sending everyone :hugs: and

[AustraJoey]

Thanks everyone- you are a fantastic group of women!
I just feel so down every time I get my AF and then think- who am I kidding??? Why keep TTC etc, but come day 3 and I am ready to give it another shot. The whole thing is torture physically and mentally but we know how worthwhile it will be when we succeed
Sorry to get any one down, I was at a dark point the last 48 hours and then my AP rang full of optimism and saying my temps looked great and I'll get there. Then I wonder if all these APs are saying this as it's keeping them in business??( cynic!)
I am sorry we are all on this board but simultaneously it's opening up opportunities for us all to share with people in our unique situation. I don't know anyone I can really talk to about all this, my DH is tired of all the stress but not willing to let me quit yet. My Dr is still positive but I'll have reduced contact with him after 1 August and my AP is still hopeful. However, my friends don't know or understand my quest and need and probably think I'm insane still ttc after so many failures
Thanks everyone... Pam- I know about feeling rundown after m/c . I had a Chinese lady make up a foul tasting concoction I had to boil up and drink 2 x a day between m/c 5 and 6 and I felt much better. After the last m/c i didn't have it and now I wish I had, I also got pg 3 months after m/c 5 whereas this time it's been 7 months and no action.
I wonder if I'm doing the right thing having the lap? Should I use this month to ttc as I'll be one month older again? Will a lap mess up my cycles?
Jo

[blackduckies]

Hi girls, Jo are they looking for something specific as far a the lap goes? Or is it just in case? Its a hard call I guess you have to go with your gut feeling,but if you don"t think anything is wrong maybe you should leave it and try your herbs again. I'm going to have a go at Hypnotherapy hopefully it can get me back on track emotionally and eating well again. And depending on the specialist I may have a go with Chinese herbs. Willing to try just about anything don't want to waste too much time.Pam. everyone.

[AustraJoey]

Hi Pam,
I've had endometriosis for years since I was 15 y o, diagnosed by a lap at 19 years! and after the last m/cs I started getting a lot more pelvic pain again, so Dr wants to have a look and remove endo if it's there as it can affect your fertility.
Jo

[Lissie]

HI Jo,
My family has alot of endo, my second eldest sister was diagnosed with it at 18 whilst she was in the UK no one in Australia had picked it up she had had it for years prior to that she rushed back to australia and after 3operations and half her bowel removed (no bag thank god) she was told she would never have children then low and behold 3months later she was pregnant and has a beautiful 25yr old daughter but unfortunately they now think it is heridity and her daughter has had 6operations in 5years! Unfortunatley she is one of the worst cases they have ever come across and she has a gene they have discovered that just keeps producing endo - they say she will post probably not fall pregnant naturally and her best chance now will be IVF, she doesn't even want children yet but is being pressured into it by doctors and her mother, if feel for her as she is not ready for kids yet but does want them one day- she is living with a nice young man but they haven't even thought of marriage yet. Endo is such a horrible thing, i hope to all hope that your endo has not returned, they do say that after having kids it most likely does not return however my sister at the age of 48 got horrible pains again a few months ago and has just undergone another operation - unbelievable you think that after all these years of her being endo free why would it come back 20odd years later? I say go for the lap you can't waste time - just make sure no more endo - i know its another month older but at least if you go down the lap road you can cross all the "t's" and dod all lthe "i's" and have peace of mind with your endo. Anyway its really up to you Jo - but i say go for it, and i did read a thread before about laps and alot of women fall preg after laps. Anyway Jo good luck with your decision - i know its a big one - just go with what you feel if right. I pray every night for all of us (and im not even religous!)
I want us all the have BFP that would be the best lotto present of all.

[blackduckies]

Sorry Jo I don't mean to seem insensitive. I did know that you had endo I just thought that because you have fallen preg that it was'nt a factor. My understanding was that if you could'nt become preg, then they went the surgery option to remove it. I thought that it would'nt make you mc. But I suppose you have been TTC for a while now so they are thinking it may have come back I assume. Anyway I suppose if that is the case like Lissie says it may be best to have it done. But whatever you decide heaps of and everything else I did'nt include.Pam.

[bettyboop]

dont know what my chart is doing , i have my app tomorrow, fell abit nervous about it . Good luck on your app Pam.

[AustraJoey]

Hi everyone, I appreciate your thoughts. I'm in 2 minds about it, some Drs say that as long as I can fall pg every year my endo is not a problem but others say there is a link between endo and m/c. I suppose I would like to know what's going on in there as I haven't had a lap for 12 years.

Sorry to hear it's in your family, Lissie. I was constantly aware of the need to start a family ASAP but it's not so easy to find the right guy. I hope my daughters don't have it

I was all down and discouraged this week when AF came but today my other AP was so positive about my chances I am hopeful again... but he thought the lap was unnecessary. I mainly see an AP in Darlinghurst but it's hard to get in to see her, can only get Saturdays which is a hard day with family commitments so found a group of Dr's who do AP near here. All really positive guys, which is great for my mindset.
I'll have a look at your chart Bettyboop.
Jo

[AustraJoey]

Hi Bettyboop- looked like you O'd on day 11 but the rise is dropping back a bit, usually they like the temps to reach the high 36.6s but it's best to show an AP- they study my charts very closely to see how to best treat you- are you seeing one?.
Good luck with your appointment tomorrow, I'll be thinking of you.
Jo

[Lissie]

Hi Girls,
Jo - its great you are feeling positive again i think sometimes its half the battle -
re endo - i don't have any kids yet so if i do and it is a girl i hope she never gets it - good chance as i am free of endo.Best of luck with the new doctors.
Betty - hope all goes well with your apt - i know it will all be okay and that you get some answers.
Pam - hope all is well with you and your spirits are high.
Me - well im well into the injections now and the nightmares have begun - i always have bad nightmares when on these hormones - it screws with your head i guess. I also get very tired and could just sleep - even after 8hrs i am still tired. Broken out in rashes which is another side effect i get - fun and joy - just want to hold onto as many follicles as possible - but basically just want and need one good eggie. So the journey continues - probably have my first ultrasound in a few days - gee i hope its a woman i hate haveing males doing it - stupid i know but its just not the same as a male doctor. Keep you informed.
Girls now we all seem to have been a bit down this week - so its time for us to pick ourselves up and support each other - we need each other right now - so lets show them all that us old chickies can do it!

[julieruth]

I need some inspiration and hope, I'm 42 and been ttc since October 2003 with 4 m/c in that time. I do have kids, but just want one more. I have had 6 m/c at around 9 weeks in total and have endometriosis.

If you are/have been successful- could you share your positive story?
Thanks, Jo

if you go on the net type in [nsw mothers and babies report 2004]than browse by subject]click on maternal health 2005 ]and it will tell you how many women 40-44 gave birth in nsw at that age ,in 2004 2,819 mums gave birth between the ages of 40-44 45+was 145 in 2005 3,017 gave birth in the ages between 40-44 45+149 gave birth,you can do different states it tells you every thing,so you can see how many women in your age group gave birth,its good because it inclues all births so you can get a fair idea,some of that group would be ivf babies as well,but it tells you the amount of women who give birth in each state and what age group,it tells you every thing,live births,stillbirths,maternal age what you want to know,premi births ,its every single women who had a baby in australia ,they tell you every thing where you live number of births every thing,so you can look at the charts and see,oh my sister husband wife had a baby boy ivf baby at 43 after 3 years of trying.also there are so many different ivf clinics with different rates of sucess ,so you need to ask,how many babies they have had.not how many women get pregnant,the federal government a while ago said they need to do this,since there are a few clinics around,and they offen dont tell you there sucess rate,so its good to find a doctor and a clinic where you feel good about it,where you can talk to them and they listen to you,also if you type in how many babies born in australa is ivf its one in every 30 babies born every year is ivf