Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August/September 09

[mitf]

Nix - I am so sorry to hear about your result. I hope you are feeling a bit better today and glad to hear DH has been looking after you.

Lise - GL with your ET tody.

Wishes - it's disappointing that you lost so many embies but 8 is still a great result. 2 of my frosties are day 6 as well and one of them ended up being a hatching blastie so it shows they can be just as strong. I have no idea what grading my embies are, not sure if I want to... as you say it seems to add a bit more pressure. All the best for your break. I hope you enjoy you R&R and come back rearing to go!

Colour - Sorry can't help with your Q. Some of the other ladies might be, if not here's a link to a TTC with herbal supliments thread or TTC 1- 6 months.

[Coral73]

Hi Ladies,

I haven't posted in this thread before although I see some familiar names from the TWW .
I was just exploring and discovered that this thread existed. As I'm gearing up for a stim cycle (on pill and due to start Lucrin injections on Sept 25) it looks as though this is right place to chat

Lise - I am sorry to hear your news... and big hugs to you

Loops - Just curious... did your FS elaborate on the safety net thing? We are looking at doing two back to back stims before the end of the year because of the safety net thing... Has there been talk of a change? I so hope so

I know that I missed allot of people (sorry) and will read up over the weekend to catch up..

to everyone and I hope that there will be many BFP's coming our way!

[AllyG]

Hi ladies,

I haven't written in this forum before, but do read often with interest. I have PCOS and been TTC for about 18 months, and have been on some sort of medication for past 7 months (tried Clomid first).

I am currently undergoing OI using puregon injections. First cycle was cancelled - too many follicles.

Second cycle seems to have failed - started injections, had US and everything looked good, one follicle developed, did as nurse said, then went back for US about 1 week later and it appeared that O had occurred as follicle was collapsing. Blood test 1 week after estimated O to check progesterone levels and confirm O, 8 days later (on the day we estimated that my period would have been due) i got a call from the nurse to say my progesterone levels were very low and it looks like i hadn't ovulated at all....so basically went through the TWW and was starting to get excited as i hadn't got my period, only to be brought quickly back to earth because it's probably because i hadn't even ovulated. So i was just wondering, how long has it taken other ladies to get blood test results back?

[lise]

Good morning ladies,

thanks for all your well wishes over the last few days. I'm certainly feeling a lot better this morning (I think i've eaten the sadness out of my system!) and looking forward to chatting with FS this week to see where we can go from here. I'm very keen to get straight back into it so hopefully he agrees...

Coral - GL with your next stim cycle. Here's hoping it goes well.

Wishes - your hatching blastie is the one. I'm still getting my head around the process, but from what you were saying about hatching blasties, it does sound promising.

Seph - hope your transfer goes well next week. I'll be thinking of you.

Tantee - GL with your FET next week. It's such an awful time waiting to hear you've got the go ahead isn't it?

Ally G - i'm only new to all of this, and so far have only had to wait for one set of blood test results which I received that afternoon. Hopefully your clinic can explain the processes in a bit more detail for you so you know what to expect.

Hello to everyone else, hope you're enjoying your weekend :-)

cheers,
lise xx

[Onja]

Hey all

Lise and NIx

Hello I had a few days away from TTC and it felt nice - everyone kept asking me if I was going to have a few drinks when I got the news but at the time felt I didn't need it. My work place had an after work drinks thing on Fri and I have been ignoring them for a few months but thought WTH... I planned on having 'a drink' ahhhem Well had a bit of a hangover on Sat...

One thing... I got a call from Dr Burmeister's room's (my FS) and they said she would like to make an app to start my next cycle... when she got back from holidays or something on Oct 12th. I couldn't talk much as was about to go into a meeting but I said "So I have to wait till she gets back to start again??" Assistant got off phone pretty quick I am thinking of changing FS

Lots of to all

[Loops12]

Wishes ~ I was the same, said I was having a break from BB and then I think the next day I was back in. Everyone is just so nice and supporting its too hard to stay away.
Thanks for your wishes - - it would be a great Xmas present wouldnt it. Also DH and my 30th brirthdays are early next year (Jan/Feb).
I hope the time flies for you ET and FX.

Seph ~ all the best for this week, your ET. Really hope you get a sticky one transferred. FX

Tantee ~ thanks, I really hope we can get some improvement next round, I think my FS is great and I trust he will.
When will you have your FET?

AllyG - hi and . My BT results have always come the same day or next day - my nurses etc are all really good, so Im not sure if others are generally the same. All the best with everything. FX for you.

Lise ~ GL with your FS appointment. Hope you can get back in there ASAP!

Onja ~ Hope you find a good FS. I reccommend Dr Mac Talbot - Monash IVF. GL

AFM ~ I think AF will arrive at some stage today. I know my body too well.

Hi to anyone Ive missed - all the best for a wonderful week!

[juniper76]

Hi ladies!

tantee, I know all too well the fear of having nothing left, that's why our little lonely single snowbaby is staying put for now - I can't bear the thought of expecting to do an FET and then have it not survive the thaw. I hope your 6 do well and you get some perfect blasties!

AllyG, I get my P4 (progesterone), E2 and LH levels the same afternoon (blood is taken between 7-8 am) - on a weekday I call after 1pm and on a weekend they call me when they're in. I get hcg tests even faster - usually available in 2 hours.

Afm, it seems I was jumping the gun - my acupuncturist wants me to do 4 cycles with her before the next IVF, not have our next IVF be the 4th cycle... So, that makes it end of November. Work's going to love that! December is always busy for us and it looks like I'll be taking some time off...

[Nix76]

Hey there all,

Thanks for all your wonderful support and wishes since my BFN news last week. I am feeling a lot better about it and after having quite a few drinks & having a hangover on Sunday morning, I have made the "not drinking" commitment easier to deal with in my next cycle (reminded myself why it is good to NOT drink too!!)

Anyway - was on phone to MIVF today to check how much for FET so i can prepare - $1675 (WOW!) thankfully safety net will make out of pocket only $335 but still! I really don't know how we can all keep going round and round on this ride with all these added up financials.

In terms of some of the chatter about the medicare changes for next year - from what I understand they say that it will not have an impact on how much we get back and that we should be no worse off. But what do you beleive really? From the recent articles I have read tho it is looking more promising. Here's hoping they have a heart and don't make this any harder on us than it already is.

Lise - sorry to read your news - that is really hard to take. You must have been devastated when you heard. Glad you are feeling better now tho.

Loops - i am so glad to read that you are back on the merri go round with the rest of us (well in one sense!!!) Glad you are able to get another cycle in this year. Hope it is the last one you have to do!

In response to the chatter about thawing and re-freezing - its interesting as this is all learning for me. We only have 2 bubsicles and when I asked about the FET today, they said once I am ovulating they will thaw one and ET 2 days later. I asked "what if it does not thaw OK ,is there still time to thaw the other one" and answer was yes. I guess I would be wondering ... why would your clinics thaw more than what you are willing to put back in? I guess it all comes down to timing, but if they thaw maybe 3 days out and it doesn't seem to go well, wouldn't they just thaw another until they get one to transfer and then keep the rest as they are; frozen for next time if needed? As I said, this part of the game is all new to me as we have not gone through a thawing process before and our bubsicles are 2day embys.

Hi to anyone I missed and welcome to the newbies!

[Persephone1]

In response to the chatter about thawing and re-freezing - its interesting as this is all learning for me. We only have 2 bubsicles and when I asked about the FET today, they said once I am ovulating they will thaw one and ET 2 days later. I asked "what if it does not thaw OK ,is there still time to thaw the other one" and answer was yes. I guess I would be wondering ... why would your clinics thaw more than what you are willing to put back in? I guess it all comes down to timing, but if they thaw maybe 3 days out and it doesn't seem to go well, wouldn't they just thaw another until they get one to transfer and then keep the rest as they are; frozen for next time if needed? As I said, this part of the game is all new to me as we have not gone through a thawing process before and our bubsicles are 2day embys.

Hi Nix,

I think if you've got some frozen they just thaw one at a time on the day of your transfer. If the first one doesn't survive, they just thaw another. As the embryos are at the same stage that your body is at at the time (ie, 2dpo, or 5dpo) then it's easy just to thaw another.

For me, I've got 6 embryos which were frozen at Day 2. We've had 6 ETs now, all at Day 2. Different Clinics have different protocols for whether they grow the embryos to Day 2 or Day 5. There's a whole lot of statistics and facts about which is best - I guess it depends on the Clinic, the FS, and the patient. I think my FS thought I would be pregnant within a few Day 2 transfers. After 6 unsuccessful ETs, we reviewed the situation and FS said that it appeared that there was an argument to try and grow the remaining embryos to Day 5, as the chances of success increase with Day 5's.

So....long story short, we're thawing all 6 at the same time (they're currently out of the freezer, my little lonely babies!) and hopefully one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday (Day 5). Statistically not many will make it to that stage. The reason for thawing more than one is because if they only thaw one at a time and I turn up on Wednesday and that one has not survived, then my cycle is cancelled for this month. Arguably it's best to thaw all of them at the same time because hopefully at least one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday.

Phew. I hope that makes sense.

Meanwhile, I guess I've managed to get this far through my TWW without thinking about it much. Usually by this time I would have had a transfer, so it feels a bit odd to still be waiting for a FET. But the anxiety is starting to crawl in...I'm starting to obsess about whether they'll be ringing me tomorrow or Wednesday to cancel the FET because none of them made it to Day 5. Ugh, it's making me feel sick. But normally around this time I'm feeling a bit anxious anyway, with the enormity of another embryo on board and having to wait....

Phew again! to everyone, thinking of you all...will drop back in on Wednesday with FET info. Wish me luck girls!

Seph