Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August/September 09

[Loops12]

Wishes ~ I was the same, said I was having a break from BB and then I think the next day I was back in. Everyone is just so nice and supporting its too hard to stay away.
Thanks for your wishes - - it would be a great Xmas present wouldnt it. Also DH and my 30th brirthdays are early next year (Jan/Feb).
I hope the time flies for you ET and FX.

Seph ~ all the best for this week, your ET. Really hope you get a sticky one transferred. FX

Tantee ~ thanks, I really hope we can get some improvement next round, I think my FS is great and I trust he will.
When will you have your FET?

AllyG - hi and . My BT results have always come the same day or next day - my nurses etc are all really good, so Im not sure if others are generally the same. All the best with everything. FX for you.

Lise ~ GL with your FS appointment. Hope you can get back in there ASAP!

Onja ~ Hope you find a good FS. I reccommend Dr Mac Talbot - Monash IVF. GL

AFM ~ I think AF will arrive at some stage today. I know my body too well.

Hi to anyone Ive missed - all the best for a wonderful week!

[juniper76]

Hi ladies!

tantee, I know all too well the fear of having nothing left, that's why our little lonely single snowbaby is staying put for now - I can't bear the thought of expecting to do an FET and then have it not survive the thaw. I hope your 6 do well and you get some perfect blasties!

AllyG, I get my P4 (progesterone), E2 and LH levels the same afternoon (blood is taken between 7-8 am) - on a weekday I call after 1pm and on a weekend they call me when they're in. I get hcg tests even faster - usually available in 2 hours.

Afm, it seems I was jumping the gun - my acupuncturist wants me to do 4 cycles with her before the next IVF, not have our next IVF be the 4th cycle... So, that makes it end of November. Work's going to love that! December is always busy for us and it looks like I'll be taking some time off...

[Nix76]

Hey there all,

Thanks for all your wonderful support and wishes since my BFN news last week. I am feeling a lot better about it and after having quite a few drinks & having a hangover on Sunday morning, I have made the "not drinking" commitment easier to deal with in my next cycle (reminded myself why it is good to NOT drink too!!)

Anyway - was on phone to MIVF today to check how much for FET so i can prepare - $1675 (WOW!) thankfully safety net will make out of pocket only $335 but still! I really don't know how we can all keep going round and round on this ride with all these added up financials.

In terms of some of the chatter about the medicare changes for next year - from what I understand they say that it will not have an impact on how much we get back and that we should be no worse off. But what do you beleive really? From the recent articles I have read tho it is looking more promising. Here's hoping they have a heart and don't make this any harder on us than it already is.

Lise - sorry to read your news - that is really hard to take. You must have been devastated when you heard. Glad you are feeling better now tho.

Loops - i am so glad to read that you are back on the merri go round with the rest of us (well in one sense!!!) Glad you are able to get another cycle in this year. Hope it is the last one you have to do!

In response to the chatter about thawing and re-freezing - its interesting as this is all learning for me. We only have 2 bubsicles and when I asked about the FET today, they said once I am ovulating they will thaw one and ET 2 days later. I asked "what if it does not thaw OK ,is there still time to thaw the other one" and answer was yes. I guess I would be wondering ... why would your clinics thaw more than what you are willing to put back in? I guess it all comes down to timing, but if they thaw maybe 3 days out and it doesn't seem to go well, wouldn't they just thaw another until they get one to transfer and then keep the rest as they are; frozen for next time if needed? As I said, this part of the game is all new to me as we have not gone through a thawing process before and our bubsicles are 2day embys.

Hi to anyone I missed and welcome to the newbies!

[Persephone1]

In response to the chatter about thawing and re-freezing - its interesting as this is all learning for me. We only have 2 bubsicles and when I asked about the FET today, they said once I am ovulating they will thaw one and ET 2 days later. I asked "what if it does not thaw OK ,is there still time to thaw the other one" and answer was yes. I guess I would be wondering ... why would your clinics thaw more than what you are willing to put back in? I guess it all comes down to timing, but if they thaw maybe 3 days out and it doesn't seem to go well, wouldn't they just thaw another until they get one to transfer and then keep the rest as they are; frozen for next time if needed? As I said, this part of the game is all new to me as we have not gone through a thawing process before and our bubsicles are 2day embys.

Hi Nix,

I think if you've got some frozen they just thaw one at a time on the day of your transfer. If the first one doesn't survive, they just thaw another. As the embryos are at the same stage that your body is at at the time (ie, 2dpo, or 5dpo) then it's easy just to thaw another.

For me, I've got 6 embryos which were frozen at Day 2. We've had 6 ETs now, all at Day 2. Different Clinics have different protocols for whether they grow the embryos to Day 2 or Day 5. There's a whole lot of statistics and facts about which is best - I guess it depends on the Clinic, the FS, and the patient. I think my FS thought I would be pregnant within a few Day 2 transfers. After 6 unsuccessful ETs, we reviewed the situation and FS said that it appeared that there was an argument to try and grow the remaining embryos to Day 5, as the chances of success increase with Day 5's.

So....long story short, we're thawing all 6 at the same time (they're currently out of the freezer, my little lonely babies!) and hopefully one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday (Day 5). Statistically not many will make it to that stage. The reason for thawing more than one is because if they only thaw one at a time and I turn up on Wednesday and that one has not survived, then my cycle is cancelled for this month. Arguably it's best to thaw all of them at the same time because hopefully at least one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday.

Phew. I hope that makes sense.

Meanwhile, I guess I've managed to get this far through my TWW without thinking about it much. Usually by this time I would have had a transfer, so it feels a bit odd to still be waiting for a FET. But the anxiety is starting to crawl in...I'm starting to obsess about whether they'll be ringing me tomorrow or Wednesday to cancel the FET because none of them made it to Day 5. Ugh, it's making me feel sick. But normally around this time I'm feeling a bit anxious anyway, with the enormity of another embryo on board and having to wait....

Phew again! to everyone, thinking of you all...will drop back in on Wednesday with FET info. Wish me luck girls!

Seph

[Onja]

Hey everybooodie

Hope you are doing well and being happy

Coral and Meltc.. good luck gearing up

Colour.. It is quite normal for an acupunturist or natural therapist to suggest to avoid TTC whilst doing herbs etc. Hormones are well hormonal and when we start to take herbs, the effect usually makes them fluctuate before settling to nice even levels. You might experience some effects of hormones fluctuating in that time but it's all worth it to get them to a good place

Wishes good luck with your blasties.. hope they blast into something great

Persephone : Good luck

Loops - sometimes we 'know' and I wasn't suprised when my AF came but you never know he could be playing mouse

Nix and Lise - hope like me you have been taking care and getting taken care of (and ahem yes a few wines kinda helped)

AFM: I heard from my FS today so feel a bit more 'love' she is going to put my on a 'thaw cycle' do you call it? I have lil snowcone but she said I have to go get an ovulation kit as I might not ovulate this cycle.... So does that mean - I see if I ovulate and then do I have the transfer? How long does it take for snowcone to ahem (don't wanna say melt) ahh thaw (yeah that's better) Gosh that's weird

Also as I am writing this I swear my ovaries are aching like when I was doing the Gonal-F...?

Hope, love, stickies and good vibes to all... don't forget to have a laugh - even if you have to put on a stupid DVD or go to see a movie

come oonn lil ovaries. Let's whip these lil doggies into line

yeehha

[Loops12]

Juniper ~ all the best for your cycle in November.

Nix ~ thanks hun. Hope you can move forward now and get your BFP ASAP

Seph ~All the best for tomorrow, will be thinking of you

Onja ~ Im still loving your attitude. A good laugh is always important definitely.

AFM ~ well I was wrong yestie - AF still hasnt arrived but I am still expecting her. But at the same time have a tiny ray of hope.

Hi to everyone else and all the best

[Persephone1]

Loops? No AF? When's your BT?

When can I squeal?

[Krikkit]

Hi Ladies, thought I might pop in (for those that don't see the other thread)

I got my yesterday! we are very happy and lucky! 12 months of waiting and its finally here!