Motherhood- I am sorry to hear your news, here?s hoping that you get what you need, remember one great one is better then none.
Tracey- I am praying for you today, hope all goes well.
I had the other extreme with my FS. His attitude was to put off ivf because they said I was young so it will happen with clomid, then when it didn?t they wanted to continue with iui, because it will happen. So each month it didn?t I felt worse, and wondered what was wrong with me. My FS kept saying ?it?ll happen this month, I don?t understand why it didn?t.? Have now changed FS and feel much better.
I feel for all those lady?s who are feeling low, I know it is hard to stay positive, so if you are having trouble we will be positive for you.
Thanks ladies for all the well wishes. Am trying to stay positive but like you have all sort of said, it is hard. Just reading your posts brought tears to my eyes.
I did leave out one thing in my previous post and I suppose this might be why the FS has put forward the Idea of cancelling. We aren't just going through IVF but also PGD where they will test the little fertilised embryo before they implant. So its not as if I need only one healthy embryo. There is the added risk that the one lonely one might have the genetic condition . I can see what his saying in that its alot to go through both physically and emotionally to have that happen.
Nix76 will definately mention that on Sat when im assuming Ill get the call with the results. Might be worth a shot although I know that today is my day 14 of Puregon so not sure on what his reaction will be!!!
The horrible part though I think is that I could be waiting another 2 to 5wks till the next cycle, depending on the treatment he wants to take although Ill be pushing for anything that means I can start ASAP. Have even thought in the future of having accupuncture to help with my little follies.
Anyway, thankyou again for all your thoughts. Am feeling a little sore down in there today so Im hoping that means my follies have grown more already and thats why I feel that way.
Best be off, will be sure to post my results and definately want to keep up with what you fantastic ladies are up to with your cycles. FX big time for you all.
MotherhoodhereIcome - so sorry to hear that you are feeling down and that your cycle may be cancelled... that would really suck! I can only imagine how disappointed you would be. FX that the boosted Puregon will help your little follies have the groth spurt they need. All the best for your scan tomorrow.
EmeraldStar - no worries hon, I was up for a chat and it help me procrastinate on a job application I was meant to be writing. Hope AF arrives soon.
Tracey - I know what you mean about the hormones. I was all over the shop when I did my stim cycle - poor DH didn't know how to handle me and I had to avoid a lot of my friends. Anyway I hope you are felling better today and your ET goes well. FX that you get a positive update on your other little one catching up for the freeze.
SonjaLouise - glad to hear that you have gotten a more receptive FS. I have also been told that I am young and have plenty of time but I don't think FS sometimes understand how disillusioning it is watching friends and family much younger constantly getting pregnant around you... can't help but feel you are missing the boat. that your IVF will be a success.
Lise - thanks for the FS advice. I hope the acupuncture goes well today and 5 follies is a great start... that a few more might join the party.
Wishes - for EPU today. I hope you get lots of A grade follies.
A big hello to everyone else I have missed. I hope you are going well with your treatment or you are staying sane waiting to get going again.
mitf xo
Last edited by mitf; September 4th, 2009 at 11:35 AM.
Hi Lovely ladies
Just a quick one today as there are so many in here and Ive lagged a bit behind as I havent been on for a couple of days.
Wishes - thanks hun, it is Thursday 10th so not far away now. I know that I wont be doing a cycle in Oct though because we just dont have the money - we need the Medicare money for other things. But hopefully our tractor will get sold soon and FX we will get to do a cycle later this year.
Tracy - Sorry things havent gone as good as you'd hoped. You still have a great chance - quality not quantity remember. Will be thinking of you and
Motherhood - so sorry for you too that you have to go through all of this stress. Hang in there and if it doesnt work out this time, you are not alone - everyone in here will help you through and you'll get there the next time. But I will be for you that your cycle doesnt get cancelled. All the best x
Hi to everyone else and lots of and big for all
Chat to everyone soon xoxo
Not much is happening that's what! The 2WW is driving me bonkers. And I dunno if it is that or the crinone but I am not sleeping well and am irritable. Just want the next week, to fly buy. Which I guess I am half way there so that is a start. I have a busy weekend with a dinner tomorrow night so that is hard (not drinking & trying to dodge questions about why) then a family lunch where one of the young members are pregnant and its been a challenge for me to deal with! FX there is no baby talk! Mean I know.... as it is exciting for them but hard to deal with given our position.
At least it is Friday! And at least I am in 2WW so I know I should not complain.
Hope you are well - sorry quick one as I'm at work and flat out!
I am in a good mood today I had ET this morning I had an 8 cells emby transferred, my other two are 5 & 6 cells today and we have decided to let them go to day 5 and see how they go before freezing them.
BT will be on my birthday (ill be 35 Emerald to answer your Q) on 15th Sep. So I figure it will be either a really good b'day or a really crap one.
Nix - ((hugs)) to you & FX for a bfp
Motherhood here I come- some more ((hugs)) for you too hun
SonyaLouise- wow that realy sucks, I know we were set back so many times with one thing and another and told well it should all happen eventually if we just leave you be
Took 3.5 yrs of actively ttc to even get to the IVF clinic
Everyone- thanks so mcuh for all the support you are offering and putting up with my 'bad days' Lets hope we are all preggy buddies soon enough......you girls rock!!
Onja – thanks for your thoughts on the OHS. My FS confirmed mild to moderate OHS and gave me 2 weeks rest with plently of fluids and small meals. My clininc call me each day to check on my progress and keep advising powerade type drinks and protein. Like you I also had 2 (Day 5) embies left (from 15), however not well enough for a transfer this cycle and so both were frozen.
Loops12 – thanks for your comment on the transfer – il keep it in mind for when it gets to happen!
Sonyalouise – I hear you! I am so sick of that same comment ‘Your so young, you have plenty of time!’ That is so patronising! It’s a terrible attitude. We have every right to be as desperate for a child as someone 10 yrs older than us.
Well i swear my tummy has not gone down at all in the last couple of days and its a week today since my EPU, does anyone know when the bloating should start to go? I am worried i will permanently look 3 mths preggers? Is than an OHSS thread - cos i can't find one?
Motherhood here i come - FX everything goes well tomorrow..i will be thinking of you.
Mitf and Loops12 - hello!
Nix76 - The 2ww will pass before you know it....
Also for anoyne else in the 2WW.
Tracy - GL in your 2WW as well...and i hope you get your BFP on your birthday...That would just be the best present ever!!!
Mummawannabe - Don't you just hate that preggie feeling, when your not actually preggos...i would say everyone is different but i fely bloated for a few weeks...i also added a few kilos..hope your body bounces back better than mine!!
Update from me - had EPU today which (procedure-wise) went much better than my last EPU, mainly because I didn't throw up this time (which is always a bonus). However I have good news and bad news to report.
The good news is that they got 34 eggs this morning!! OMG!! No wonder I was so uncomfortable.
The bad news is that because they got so many eggs, I am obviously at risk of OHSS, which means my FS won't let me go ahead with ET this cycle. It's disappointing, but I can see where they're coming from. FS told me that I will have to wait out the rest of this cycle til AF arrives, then will also have to have one full month break as well. And it will then be the next cycle after that, that we'll do a FET. So basically, I'll be waiting 6-8 weeks before my next FET.
I've been told that they will still grow the embies (we go for day 5 blasties), so whatever ones make it to day 5, they'll be frozen for our FET. I'm not going to be complacant though, because even though 34 is a lot of eggs, it also means there is a much greater chance of a lot of those not making it to day 5. At this stage, I have no idea what the quality is like, but after EPU, FS said there was some pretty big/good ones in there. So fingers crossed for some good blasties (I would secretly like to get a hatching one).
I'm not too upset about having to take a break though. Who knows, maybe I'm becoming a lot more relaxed about this process and starting to understand that waiting is just part of it. This was our 4th cycle (3rd stim cycle - plus we've had 1 FET), but in 4 cycles, we would only have gotten 2 ET's. In about 4 weeks though, DH and I are going to Sydney for 4 days for his birthday, so I just want to let loose and let my hair down. I feel like this whole TTC journey has taken over my life, so I think a break will be a good thing. And I plan on having a drink (or two, or five) while I'm at it. Was just saying to DH the other day, that all I feel like doing is going out and getting drunk. Because even though I don't HAVE to give up alcohol doing IVF, I've basically done it anyway to give myself the best chance (and I'm not even a big drinker anyway). But I just feel like going out / dancing / drinking and forgetting about TTC (even just for a little bit). FS also told us to try naturally anyway in the month we're having as a break, because she said that sometimes, coming off the back of a stim cycle, you can still be quite fertile. So we'll give it a go anyway, but I want it to a be a stress-free TTC month.
mitf - thanks for thinking of me...it means a lot. Not far away for you before you can get back into a new cycle with your FET. Fingers crossed the time flies for you.
lise - great news on the ultrasound. Just remember that some girls don't respond at all, so you're on the right track with growing those follies. Fingers crossed for you that more grow over the weekend before your next U/S.
Tracy - congrats on your ET today. An 8 cell embie on day 3 is really good. I was told that by day 3, they're looking for 6-8 cells, so yours is on the higher end of that, so that's really good news. I'm so happy for you. Fingers crossed for you in the TWW and I hope you get a BFP on the 15th to give yourself the best birthday present ever.
Motherhood - I'm so sorry to hear that your cycle isn't progressing as well as you would've liked. I don't know if this is an option for you (as you said you're going through PGD), but there was a BB girl who only had a very low response to IVF for her cycle too, but they converted it to IUI. And she got pregnant from it. But as I said, not sure if you'd be able to do that since the whole reason you're doing IVF is for PGD. I know that it's difficult to hear that you're cycle might be cancelled. I know exactly how you feel, because my first IVF was cancelled (2 days before EPU). I had gone through a whole month of taking the pill, sniffing synarel, doing injections, and 2 days before EPU they did a BT just to check how things were going, and turns out I'd already started ovulating, so they had to cancel the cycle. I think that was probably my lowest point of this whole journey. But somehow, you just get back into it because you keep going for that long awaited gift of a little baby. Hang in there and I hope you get a good result on Sat with your next U/S.
Nix - Hope you're still going ok over there in the TWW. I know that it drives you completely crazy, but hang in there. Good luck with the second week.
Sonyalouise - Glad you hear that you have an FS that you like now. Mine is really great, and I can't even imagine having an FS who doesn't believe in you, or doesn't help you. That's just more negativity that you don't need.
Mummawannabe - looks like you and I are OHS buddies together... well kind of. I haven't actually been diagnosed with it, but because they go so many eggs from me today (34), they're worried about OHS, so I won't get to do an ET this cycle. Here's hoping a break is all you and i need, and we'll get our BFP's with a FET.
Emerald Star - Thanks for the info you posted on chemical pregnancies. For my last cycle, I considered it a BFN, but I wonder at what point you could call it a chemical pregnancy? As in, what degree of BHcG do you need and for how long? Because my BT on 11dpo showed a BHcG level of only 10, which was very low, but there nonetheless. And if it had taken as a pregnancy and doubled every second day, it would've been about 40 by 15dpo, and I've heard of girls ending up with good pregnancies with very low and/or slow rising BHcG levels. So I'm not sure, maybe it was a chemical pregnancy, maybe not. Who knows.
Loops - hey there sweetie. So, less than one week til your FS appt. Good luck with that. I hope that you're able to work out your finances and get into another cycle soon. Thinking of you.
Ok... well... I think that is the longest post EVER, in the history of posts. Sorry for the absolute novel, but I guess I just had heaps to catch up on. Will keep you all posted on my fertilisation results.
I'm back in here and for once not (yet) in the TWW. I'll try and catch up on who is in here as I go, but a big to everyone, hope you're all doing okay.
AFM, we have 6 remaining Day 2 embryos in the freezer. We're having them cultured to Day 5 this month, and just desperately hoping that some of them reach blastie stage. FS says that statistically speaking, we might only have one of them reach blast stage, so I'm preparing myself for having no transfer at all this month, if none of them get that far. Obviously there's also a chance that more than one will survive.
I'm currently CD11. If I O some time mid next week, we should be having a Day 5 transfer next weekend. But I guess that depends on whether any of them make it to blast stage.
So, DH and I have discussed what we will do and come up with the following:
If none survive - we sign up for a stim cycle (duh)
If one survives - it gets transferred
If two survive - they both get transferred (eek! am I ready for this?!)
If more than two survive - we'll transfer one and re-freeze the rest.
DH has all these weird ideas about having twins (our nieces are IVF twins) but we've agreed that transferring two blasties is the right thing to do if only two survive to Day 5. I suppose we'll deal with that issue when it happens. I know this seems really selfish, but part of me wouldn't mind having twins (accepting all the risks in pregnancy, etc), because we would have an instant family and I wouldn't have to TTC again (in theory). I know that's all theoretical and selfish, but lordy it would be wonderful to have twins and never have to go through the hell of LTTTC again.
I will be back to try and catch up with everyone. I'm avoiding the TWW thread until next week. to everyone again!
Hey Seph. I know exactly how you feel about the whole twins thing. I feel exactly the same. I know there are risks involved with having twins, but I would be ecstatic if we fell pregnant with twins. And we feel the same.... it would be an instant family and we wouldn't have to TTC again (as we would only want 2).
Don't feel like you're being selfish. You've been through hell, and if you get twins, then I would be over the moon for you.
wishes - wow...34!! what would i give for that number! I am so happy for you
I understand about the OHSS but it would be great to have quite a large number to freeze....Well done ! Enjoy your time off, and hopefully we'll see you back here when your ET is due.
Persephone1 - I so hope for you that you get both to blast if not at least the one.... I will also pray that you get your ET next weekend and your TWINS...secretely i think after what we go through with this IVF, lots of women would like to have twins ( regardless of the risks) as all the injections, and highs and lows sometimes is tooo much to handle, and the thought of two in one go...well i'd be happy!
wishes - also about the chemical pg's, my first Beta was 62 two days later it was 81, it did not double and then everything just went downhill from there...
At my clinic i have been told that they call a pregnancy anything over 20. I think clinics must have there own policies on that one.
Wishes - wow.. 34 eggs! that is huge... your ovaries must have been popping! that you get lots of great little embies for the freeze, particularly a couple of those hatching blasties. Sorry to hear that you can't go ahead with your ET but as you say maybe the break is what your body needs. Will be great for you and DH to have a last hurrah anyway.
Seph - All the best with the thaw and here to hoping that lots of your embies make it to blastie. I would love to have twins too - they have such a special bond that would be lovely for any children to have. All the best for your cycle and FET .... hopefully a little blastie is all you need to get that elusive BFP.
Mummawannbe - sorry to hear about the OHSS and your cancelled cycle. I hope you recover soon and the bloating passes quickly.
Tracy - Glad to hear your ET went well and the other 2 embies are coming along nicely. All the best for your TWW - I hope you get the worlds best ever B'day present
Off to bed now but a big hello to everyone else and some to all the girls on the TWW.
mitf xo
Last edited by mitf; September 4th, 2009 at 11:52 PM.
Mummawannabe ~ No problems - hope you get to do the transfer soon - its frustrating you have to wait. But hey at least you have 2 frosties waiting! All the best and I hope your bloating goes soon.
Tracy ~hope you get the most amazing b'day present ever! FX
Emerald, Mitf and everyone ~ Hi and big hugs x
Wishes ~ Great attitude - your ET will fly around if you keep yourself busy and since you are going away and its a good chance to get your body ready and in great health. I hope you many of the eggs go to blastie. Thanks for your words and support.
Seph ~ I really hope you get your twins because that is what you want. All the best! FX.
AFM ~ obviously Im in a natural cycle and I just did an ovulation saliva test and Im either ovulating or maybe (might be wishful thinking though) pregnant. If the patterns stay there for days then It might mean Im pg. The reason Im thinking this is a possibility is that Im not feeling the best lately - nauseous and bit dizzy. Although I am coming down with a cold so it could just be from that. Either way, will def be dtd
Emerald Star, mitf and Loops - thanks so much for your kind words. And mitf, yes I absolutely think my ovaries were bursting. I still feel bloated now, but nurse said I could feel like this for a couple of weeks!! Oh well, hopefully it's all worth it.
Anyway, just a very quick update as I have heaps to do. So I'm just popping in with my fertilisation results:
Of the 34 eggs they collected, 33 were good enough for injection (ICSI).
Of those 33 eggs injected through ICSI:
- 29 have definitely fertilised
- 1 more possibly fertilised (this one's a bit slower - was probably one of the last ones to be injected)
- 1 didn't fertilise at all
- 2 were degraded
Not sure what the degraded thing means, but I'm not really worried about it. Because out of a total of 34 eggs, we have 29 fertilised!!!! Yippeee (plus 1 more maybe).
So I'm really happy with these results. I am keeping my fingers crossed that we get a really good number that make it to blastie stage, and that they're good quality too. Because that's a thing that I worry about a bit... the fact that I had so many eggs, that maybe there might be a lot that aren't very good quality. But only time will tell, and I'm definitely keeping my positive hat on.
Sorry girls, gotta rush. Will check in again soon.
Morning!!
. I can see what his saying in that its alot to go through both physically and emotionally to have that happen.
that your IVF will be a success. 
for EPU today. I hope you get lots of A grade follies.
and big 
for all
mmm
to everyone, hope you're all doing okay.
Enjoy your time off, and hopefully we'll see you back here when your ET is due. 
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