Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Feb 2008 #1

**plc1805** · February 17th, 2008, 08:08 PM

Hi ladies - just thought I'd pop in and say hi.

Re adoption - can't say I have thought about it (yet!) and don't know many people who have and that I'm close enough to to know their adoption journey - sorry, not much help!

Re expenses - I'm reading some of ur posts and my mind is spinning at some of the outlay. Makes me think I need to be thinking of that sort of stuff if things take too long TTC.

As for me, on CD7 now and needing to wait this cycle so that the herbs can kick in. I hate waiting and doing nothing - what a waste of time. I've been trying too many months to make a mockery of yet another month by not trying. Still, I don't think I could cope with another m/c if the bods not up to it. Sigh!!! See what the gyno says on Tuesday. Don't really know what I want him to say anyway...

**tiggerlinda** · February 18th, 2008, 07:28 AM

Pcl - Hope the herbs kick in soon have you read the book spririt babies I find this and his podcasts really helpful

**plc1805** · February 18th, 2008, 10:34 AM

Thanks TL hun! Would you believe I just ordered the book online?! I looked it up and it sounded so interesting. Saw the info re podcasts and thought may stick to the book for now. Thanks so much. I'm feeling really good about myself and this month and wonder whether I should just relax and give it a go anyway.

**Peta** · February 13th, 2008, 01:06 PM

Miss C - best of luck! I really hope you get good results.
Meredith - I don't understand oestrogen. My FS has just picked up a pattern that even when I have lots of follies my Oestrogen is on the low side of low. I asked him what I can take to help that & he told me nothing. I find this hard to believe, there are drugs for everything else! If you do find anything that is meant to help, let me know. I know this probably doesn't help you any, but it is nice to know someone else has the same sort of experience.
Have a wonderful afternoon ladies! Keep smiling (if you can).

**tiggerlinda** · February 13th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Miss C - I do hope all went well
Shell - I will PM and get the ball rolling

**tiggerlinda** · February 13th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Shell - you must be really new as I can't seem to PM my email is lindaenever@optusnet.com.au.

Email me and maybe we could catch up

**~BecD~** · February 13th, 2008, 03:49 PM

miss_c - hope your results are good hon xxx

**Baby Bliss** · February 13th, 2008, 06:26 PM

Good luck tomorrow, Salt.

**~BecD~** · February 13th, 2008, 08:40 PM

Good luck for your BT tomorrow Salt

I'm also getting a BT tomorrow lucky me. I spoke to the clinic this afternoon about our decision to do IVM next month, but we realised that Easter is exactly where EPU would be. Damn! So depending on what my baseline levels are tomorrow, they might put me on the pill to control my cycle a bit. Having never been on the pill before, I'm a little nervous about that option! I guess with all the other hormones in my system, that will hardly make a dent lol :P

I am trying to get all my paperwork in order so that I don't do my usual freak out at tax time when I cant find any of my receipts! So I have started a table with all of our medical receipts, and I nearly have heart failure. In the past seven months, we are $5150 out of pocket which includes IVF, dr's visits and misc medical costs. And after next month it will be up to $8300. Aaarrrrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!

**MeredithD** · February 13th, 2008, 08:48 PM

MissC - hope all is ok and that HCG levels have dropped enough to allow you to go ahead this cycle. I have had similar experience once after a m/c - took 9weeks for HCG to drop enough to allow us to go into another medicated cycle!!! felt just bizzare wishing HCG away.

BecD - Good on you, you brave,brave woman for getting straight back into it. Crossing everything that this next cycle is THE one.

Kell - hoping those follies are growing well in there

peta - After my first cycle in Nov last yr wher my E2 never got over 185 (despite lots of follies),my FS put me onto pregnyl 100units every second day. It acts like LH to stimulate the oestrogen producing cells in the follies. Certainly helped last cycle but this time around not doing nearly so well.
Can't see why your FS wouldn't consider this for you as possible help with E2 levels?

Better news today. My scan showed 11mm,12mm and 9mm follies (good for an IUI cycle) and my E2 was up a bit at 331, at least consistent with the follie size. So hoping its just a really slow start and things might kick along in the next few days. Back on friday for another scan/BT. Was hoping we would have had IUI by then but at least better than a cancellation. Crossing everything for slow but good eggies!!

**deni** · February 13th, 2008, 09:14 PM

Bec - so sorry to hear about the clinic mucking things up in not telling you both sooner

. Hope the timing works out for your next stim cycle

I know what you mean about all those bills/statements - I got in such a muddle, I did a table too, but it's frightening seeing all that money spent, on the screen. So worth it in the end though - I'm really

you get there soon!

Kell - sorry about your disappointing scan result, I'm

things are looking better for Friday. My clinic still went ahead with EPU with only 2 mature follicles but maybe it depends on actual sizes and hormone levels, I so hope you get there, what a rollercoaster (and not a fun one)

Meredith, things sound good with the latest scan results, hope your follies behave and reach the target soon

everyone else ! I'm just plodding along..

But... OK, VENT WARNING... I'm VERY annoyed at the moment about pessaries and need to talk to the doctor about it. In my natural cycle they didn't say I had low progesterone levels; and in my first IUI I just had pregnyl. In my second IUI, a different doctor did it, and he put me on single progesterone pesseries, and the end BT I was told that although BFN, I had good progesterone levels so I was absorbing well. But for my IVF cycle, a different FS yet again (they do it on roster), at the time of EPU put me on TWO pessaries a day - where is the clinical justification, I ask you???? (I should have asked HIM, but I was too distracted by the epu, and also conscious that he is THE bigwig doctor director of the clinic, who many of the clinic patients hold in awe) And in the meantime, I get a bill for $98 (not claimable) - and they only gave me 14 pessaries, that's 7 day's worth. Does that mean that if I get pregnant this cycle, I'll have to pay $98 per week for the next 3 months??? that just doesn't seem right, does it? I need to ask when I'm next at the clinic on Friday. I'm annoyed I didn't question them about the pessaries at the time...

**briggsy's girl** · February 13th, 2008, 09:55 PM

deni - you can shop around a little for pessaries - i think the cheapest place i've found was $85 for 34 pessaries (so 17 days) - most expensive was $208 for the same number of pessaries - so there is HUGE variance! i think it's pretty standard to require additional progesterone support with IVF over IUI - not that i'm sure, but i think it's something to do with how high your levels are pushed to get the follies, so there is much more chance of it dropping too low and resulting in AF or loss... i'm not sure, but that is the impression i get...

IUI is more like a "natural" cycle in that all they're doing is forcing ovulation - where your body is treated differently for IVF...

and yes, the paperwork i have for my clinic states i'll have to have the pessaries twice daily for 10-12 weeks if i get a bfp - fun (NOT!!!)

**deni** · February 14th, 2008, 06:51 AM

Ahh ok thanks BG that kinda makes sense.... I'll quiz the nurse about it tomorrow tho and I need to find out if they've charged me correctly, maybe they think they gave me 2 weeks' worth. Interesting about the shopping around point - where else would I buy them? I thought they'd just be available at the clinic you're registered with?

**tiggerlinda** · February 14th, 2008, 09:13 AM

Just a quick hello I will try and catch up later.

Miss C how are you sweet

**farmgirl77** · February 14th, 2008, 09:43 AM

Hello all,
Sorry to have been MIA but DH decided to crash his motorbike on the weekend and as a result got a quick helicopter ride to the Alfred Hospital - so things have been a bit crazy. However at least we are now home, having cleared him of any fractures etc of the neck and spine, it is now just minor amnesia and memory probs to deal with...I'm hoping that bad luck does only occur in threes and now we are at the start of a good luck run after a BFN, crap at work and now the accident - I dont think I can mentally put up with any more stress

saltprincess - good luck with the BT

BecD - cant believe what has happened

and hope that all works out for your BT and going on the pill. Maybe we should just lobby to cancell easter - I know I dont need all the chocolate!

Deni - good luck working everything out and good luck with the cycle. wishing you a BFP.

Miss C - hope that all goes well with the BT and that the results come back good so you can start the FET. Hold in there

To everyone else, hello and hope all is well and I'll catch up when my head is in a better space.

FG

**MeredithD** · February 14th, 2008, 10:19 AM

Deni - I get you on the pessary deal. I've never been diagnosed with a progesterone problem but was put onto pessaries after 2 m/c's. Don't quite get it myself given that was very unlikely the reason for my m/c's. i think when I was pg with DS, after the first few weeks of good prog levels, i dropped the dose myself (didn't tell Dr) just to make them last longer and cos I wanted to trust my own body a bit.
This time around I am getting my pessaries from a compunding pharmacy in melbourne $66 for 30 so much cheaper than at clinic pharmacy. It was actually my FS and clinic who told me where to get them cheaper. Maybe ask if there is compunding pharmacy that will do it near you.

Farmgirl - how awful re your DH. Like you need that kind of stress atm! Hope he (and you) are doing ok now

Shel · February 14th, 2008, 10:53 AM

Just a quick hello, hope everyone is having a good day.

TL, sorry you couldn't PM me, must be something I haven't set up right, I will email you.

Good luck to everyone with their BT results, hope they are good.

I am just plodding along ready to start Clomid on D2 and hoping to get a date for Endo removal soon.

Shel