Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July/August 09

[Persephone1]

Yeah, okay, that was a really long post. Sorry!

[Mrs P]

Hi girls,

I've been lying low since my failed IVF but am back for round 2. Hi to everyone who's joined us in the last month or so!

Today was day 8 or 9 of Puregon - I'm up to 300 units now and so far am responding fairly slowly it seems but also started orgalutran today. I was hoping for EPU on Friday this week so I'd have the weekend to recover but now it's looking like early next week, which just means more sick leave at work. Sigh.

Feeling bloated as per usual but generally doing ok and trying to avoid all pg friends and babies!!

[jasminstar]

Hi Ladies,

Loops12, I was on puregon since last Thursday and went for first U/S today (hope that helps your query.

Sorry but that's it for the personals today. Went for my BT and US this morning and looked good on the U/S figures wise - around 18 follicles between 8 and 12 mm already with EPU not supposed to happen till next Wednesday. Was all happy will BT came back with Est too high. Have been put back to original synarel dose and down from 200 puregon to 100. Back in tommorow for another BT to see if the reduction works. Having some pretty nasty abdominal pain and shooting lower back pain but hoping I won't be cancelled Major hot flushes and lack of sleep for the last two nights hasn't helped. Persephone1 you said you had mild OHSS - is this what happened to you? Has this happened to anyone else? Sorry Mrs P this is kinda off the track off your issue: which seems to be the exact opposite problem; I hope your stim works ok for you.

Thanks for any feedback you have for this; I'm a little nervous.

[mitf]

Hello lovely ladies,

I am happy to report that I am felling much better. Apart from the occasional headache I am doing ok. Just bidding my time till next week when all the action begins.

Loops - I hope your EPU went well today and you have a speedy recovery!

Emerald star - I hope you are keeping well on your 2WW. Some just for you.

Jaminstar - Wow 18 follies already. I don't have a BT till Monday so will have to wait and see. Sorry to hear you are not feeling well. FX that things settle down with the changes to your doses.

Mrs P - welcome back. GL for your treatment, I hope this ones a stayer.

Baby2 Bee - welcome back also and GL with your FET.

Taurean - I hope you are settling back into school ok and the drugs aren't stuffing you around too much.

Vira - glad to hear that things have started to move forward. I lived in the UK for a while and know how painfully the NHS can be. I hope it doesn't take to long for you to see the Gynaec. There is nothing more frustrating than waiting to see the specialist.

Hello to everyone else I have missed I hope you are doing well with your various stages of treatment.

[Loops12]

Hi Lovely Ladies

Im recovering well from my EPU yesterday - thank you for all your support and kind wishes. We had six good eggs collected yesterday and got the call this morning from the nurse to say we had a great result with 5 fertilising:. They micro-injected all six.
So our ET will be Sun and I am very excited. Just have to hope now that the cells divide etc to blastie and we get one really good embryo to be transferred. Thanks again !!

Jasminster - I think my query you mentioned actually came from someone else. I hope your down dosage works though so you arent in too much discomfort and that they still get good eggs collected soon. Will be thinking of you.

Thinking of you Mitf, and Taureen leading up to EPU and Emerald Star - you in your TWW.
Vira - GL with the Gynaec - hope things progress soon

Seph - Im glad your FS is so kind and caring - i wish you all the best with the next step! I really hope those frosty's can go to blastie and you guys get your little miracle (or 2 )!!

Hi to everyone else and all the very best. Sorry if ive missed anyone but GL to all x
Thanks Nae for dropping in and for all your support and kind words - you are the bestest and I hope things are still staying steady with your little one xoxo

Sorry just a short one as I need to go and rest now and get stuck into the water.

[tantee]

Firstly, I would just like to say a big fat THANK YOU to all you lovely ladies for your kind words re my BFN. I have been lurking and have found great comfort in your support

Daisie - how are you going. Where are you up to now?

Seph - I am so sorry about your BFN and that painful AF is adding to your woes. Hang in there, you will get there. Going to blast may be a good plan and hopefully you will have your BFP by the end of the year. However, a holiday may bring on some nice relaxing vibes for your 2ww. No way should you consider your posts hi-jacking. We all need to vent sometimes.

Jasminstar - with you in the Chocolate department. I go through stages where I can't get enough of it (am finding it particularly comforting right now) How did your BT go today?

Juniper - Are you still on a 4 month plan? How often will you be having acupuncture?

Loops - Great to hear that your EPU went well and you had such a wonderful result. Glad to hear that you will be able to make it to your ball. It is wonderful that you have such a lovely tradition to honour your sister. Good luck on Sun

Taurean78 - Hope you are surviving the new school term. This was my timesline for this cycle
26/6 Started stims
2/7 1st Blood test
3/7 1st Ultrasound
6/7 Blood test (Stopped stims - very high estrogen - 15000)
7/7 2nd Ultrasound - trigger pm
9/7 EPU
11/7 ET
Hope this helps give you an idea. Sorry I did not have Lucrin so I can't help you there. Good luck for Friday's BT.

Emerald Star - I bet you are relieved that ET went smoothly. How are you feeling? Lots of sticky vibes to you.

mitf - How are you feeling today? Have your symptoms calmed down a bit. Hope you survived the outlaws.

Krikit - I'm sorry but I haven't had any experience with luveris. I hope you get some answers.

Vira - Did you manage to get an appointmenT with your Gynaec? How longe after surgery do you need to recover to get to your next step? Hopefully this will be the break through that gets you over the line.

Baby2Bee - Day 2 of your new campaign. You go girl!

Mrs P - Good luck with this cycle. I know the feeling re avoiding others. Just about every one of my friends is either pregnant or has had a bub in the last 12 months. I'm not kidding, it would be about 90% of them - I suppose it's just how it is at this age and it just feels a bit more blatant when you're TTC

I hope I haven't missed anyone, if I have, I'm sorry.

AFM: AF settled in on Sat, however has not been nearly as heavy or painful as expected. This is the 1st period in 20+ years that I have not had to take Naprogesic, so FS wanted to take BT just in case. BT today confirmed BFN.

I will start the pill this week, will need to notify FS when next AF arrives and will take medication to regulate cycle for FET (otherwise could be waiting up to 50days for AF)

Just (another) waiting game...

TO EVERYONE.

[Taurean78]

Hi everyone,

Krikkit - Sorry I can't help in relation to Luveris. I hope someone can help you.

Vira - At least they are trying to get to the bottom of your problem now. I have that you get an appt really soon so you get some answers.

Baby2Bee - That's so exciting! . I am sending you sticky vibes. Let us know how you go.

Seph - you learn something new about this merry-go-round all the time! I had no idea about that legislation. Not a bad idea asking for a different protocol too. Your FS sounds like a very caring and sympathetic professional.


Mrs P - welcome back and sorry to hear that Round 1 was unsuccessful for you. Good on you for getting "back on the horse" so to speak. I hope you're responding a bit better now to your stims. I also understand what you mean about avaoiding pg friends and babies. If I were to do that, I wouldn't see any of my friends! And I wouldn't be able to go to work either with all the parents of the kids I teach. There are so many pg bellies there and 4 pg staff atm!

Jasminstar - that sounds like a good number of follicles. I really hope that your est levels lower and that your cycle goes ahead. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling great.

Mitf - glad to hear that you are feeling much better and now it's just clock watching. I feel the same - biding time.... but getting excited and optimistic.

Daisie - how you're doing well on your stims and that DH is back? Thinking of you.

Loops12 - It sounds like your EPU went well. Make sure you take it easy and really take care of yourself over the next few days. with the cell division and with your ET.

Tantee - Thanks for all the info. I am getting my head around the timings a lot more now. I have BT and US on Fri and then again Mon and then EPU estimated sometime between Wed & Fri next week. I am so glad you have found comfort in the support offered on BB. Keep strong and I hope AF doesn't get too painful for you.

Emeraldstar - with your TWW. Hope you're feeling well and please, please, please don't cave with a HPT!! Mitf is right when she says they can dash your hopes. I know you'll do what's right for you though

I am feeling quite good too. Just trying to treat myself nicely. Eating well (apart from the odd Nutella dip!) and having a warm bath every night (not too hot - can't raise core temp). Feeling like I need a lot more sleep than usual so I am going to bed an hour earlier and getting about 8.5 - 9hrs a night. Starting to get a bit impatient and i'm looking forward to the US on Fri because it will all seem a bit more real then.

to all and apologies to any I have left out.

[juniper76]

tantee, I'll be going to acu once a week until we start our next IVF cycle. I'm having trouble deciding whether to wait the 4 months or not. If we wait 4 months we'll definitely only get one more in this year and there's a real risk we can't afford it next year so it feels like we'd only be doing it once more ever. But if we push to fit two more in this year: 1. it means we don't expect the next one to work (so why bother?); and 2. putting extra stress on my body by doing back-to-back cycles again may make the second of those cycles less likely to work. I guess I'm leaning toward waiting and doing our last hurrah so that we've given it our best shot if it's going to be our last. Plus that way I'm not going through this over and over again when I no longer actually believe it will work.

[mitf]

Loops - way to go! Thats a great result. GL for Sunday.... I am so excited for you. Can't wait till the BFP's start rolling throught.

Tantee - feeling pretty good thanks. The inlaws were ok actually, they only stopped for a night on their way down south and it went better than expected. Good news that AF is being nice to you this month and GL as you prepare for your next FET.

Taurean - sounds like we are on a very similar schedule. I have my BT/US Mon and EPU will probably be next Friday. We will be able to count down on the TWW together!

Juniper - GL with the tough decisions. It sucks that the Medicare changes adds another dimention that has to be considered. FX that you will only need one more stim cycle anyway.

Hi to everyone else - a little for you all.

[jasminstar]

Hi Ladies,

Well happy days the BT came back and my est level have stopped soaring through the roof and are starting to settle a bit. I have to stay on the reduced synarel and puregon but I'm starting to feel better. Was an emotional basketcase on the brink of tears for a few days and as it's my first IVF I thought that was normal. Not saying I'm not still a basketcase I'm just a little more under control again. Another BT and US tommorow to see how things are going and hopefully all them follies are developing away nicely.

LOOPS, sorry you're right; answer to question was for Taurean. Delighted on your result with FX for all 5 to be strong and healthy. Best of luck on Sunday; hope you're resting up till then.

STEPH, GL with going to blasties. I really hope it works for you. Sounds like you've a really good FS who wouldn't steer you wrong anyway.

EMERALD STAR, Counting on you to start the BFP ball rolling for us all. Hope it's all going well.

MRSP, when's your EPU? Your cycle sounds like should be soon.

DAISIE, hope you're feeling well and things are moving along. Once you start the jabs you'll be amazed how quickly it'll go - or have you started them already?

MITF, Glad you're feeling better and I hope you're right about the BFPs - here's hoping for all of us GL next week.

VIRA, so frustrating. I'm Irish and living in Australia for the past 7 years (got my citizenship last year - yippee). If I was at home I would have to travel to Dublin or Cork for every treatment and I imagine UK is not miles ahead of us in that department. Very frustrating for you to have to wait to see the Gynie. I hope they can get you in soon. I can also sympathise how hard this is with your family support so far away

TANTEE, glad to hear you're going to get back in the game so soon and I really hope it works this time. Lots of luck and hugs.

TAUREAN, Sorry I answered you're U/S query to Loops earlier in the week - D'Oh! But as you're having yours tommorow it's a bit late anyway. Hope it all goes well and there are lots of follies working away down there.

BABY2BEE, Happy and excited for you. So when's Blast off! (sorry couldn't resist). Wishing you loads of luck.

JUNIPER76, I think you're right to wait. If you're body is more relaxed and rested you're giving yourself a much better chance. And who can say what next year will bring. You can't force yourself based on what might happen financially next year.

WISHES, you've been quiet for a while. Are you planning an FET soon?

Thanks ladies for all your support and sorry to those I have missed. FX for all of us!

[Persephone1]

Hey Ladies,

Thank you for your comments and thoughts. Just thought I'd respond to Jasmin, but thinking of you all.

Persephone1 you said you had mild OHSS - is this what happened to you? Has this happened to anyone else?

Hi Jasmin,

I did have mild OHSS. I was tired and couldn't sleep - felt like I had lead balloons in my belly, with my ovaries heavy and bobbing around in there. I don't remember having any hot flushes BUT it was the middle of summer, so I was generally hot and bothered anyway.

I had scheduled some time off for the last week leading up to EPU, so I was able to take it easy, lie under the air conditioner and watch movies.

I hope you're feeling okay - drink plenty of water. I hope you can get some sleep as well - I had real trouble in that last week, but without a good rest I became very grumpy and emotional. It was like heaven after the EPU when I could roll on my belly again.

Good luck - take it easy! And don't worry too much about it (I know, easier said than done)
Seph

[Emerald Star]

Persephone - So glad to hear your discussions with FS are positive. GL.

Loops12 - Does your clinic call you everyday to tell you how your embies are going ?.....

Taurean78 - Mitf - Tantee and Jasminstar - Thankyou all for your babydust!

Ladies to all of you who are next in line for EPU's or ET's or just cycling OR in the 2WW.... TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AFM - I have no symptoms at all......my boobs have been sore the whole time, so that can't be a sign. I have had some slight cramping here and there, but i think its just ovaries trying to get back to normal. For some reason I somehow expected more...the sensible part of me knows its too early for anything, but the other impatient, naughty, not by the book, side of me keeps nagging all these negative thoughts in my head.
However, the day after ET, i had really excrutiating cramps and sharp pains for about 2 mins and then gone, like nothing happened. Later when i went to the Loo i noticed some mucousy stuff on my undies mixed with a tiny little bit of brownish blood. Could this have been implantation? or maybe my body rejected the embryos and out came the waste? (sorry for the TMI ). I have been sitting on this for days and trying to put it out of my head - then i thought i'd ask you ladies. Let me know what you think!!
AND I WILL WAIT FOR BT - I WILL NOT POAS!!!!!!
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Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
TTC #1 for 3 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009
IUI #2 19 May 2009
IVF #1 7 July 2009

[Emerald Star]

6 days till BT.

___________________
Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
TTC #1 for 3 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009
IUI #2 19 May 2009
IVF #1 7 July 2009

[mitf]

EmeraldStar - 6 days... how exciting! Your on the homestretch now. I haven't experienced this before but I have heard about implantation bleeds. Fingers crossed thats all it was. GL on the end of your wait, that is usually the bit I find the hardest. I hope you have lots of things to keep you busy and nicely distracted over the weekend.

[williamsemma59]

Hi all,
I'm new to this and i'm lookin for advice from women going thru similar experiences, i have just had my 1st transfer 9 days ago after ttc for 8yrs on & off.
Things have gone extremely well and i'm worried a bit 2 well! managed 2 get 7 embryos 2 blastocyst stage which is said 2 have a very high s/rates.
It's been 15 days since i had my pregnyl injection, i have breast tenderness and extreme tiredness, i have had 2 postive test results but is it to early to test still or could i be amazingly lucky??? if anybody has any advice that would be great because i'm driving myself loopy THNX

[wishes]

Jasminstar - thanks for checking up on me. Yep, I'm still here and have already started my FET cycle.

Had appt with FS last week and came up with a bit of a plan. Told her my concerns of a short luteal phase, so as well as doing progesterone pessaries twice a day, I'll be doing 2 x Pregnyl booster shots in the luteal phase. Hopefully that helps. Also reminded her of my thin uterus lining issues too, so at the moment I'm also on Progynova (6mg per day). Only started the Progynova on CD9 which is apparently a lot later than most women start it (I think you're normally supposed to start it while still having AF). I'm a bit of a weird one though. Progynova is to do with estrogen and is supposed to help thicken the lining. I was told it is normally given to women with no or low ovarian function, so the tablets can do the job of what the ovaries are supposed to do. The weird part is that my estrogen levels have always been ok, but my uterus lining just doesn't seem to thicken very well.

Had an ultrasound yesterday (CD12) and uterus lining was only 5mm which is not great. And I had 1 dominant follicle at 12mm. Having said that though, I think I am usually a later ovulator (maybe not til CD17 to CD19), so I am just hoping that the scan yesterday was just too early for me to be showing progress in the uterus lining department.

To make things even more confusing though, I then got blood test results from yesterday (CD12), which showed that my E2 had decreased from BT 2 days earlier, but my LH had risen from 2 to 10 (from CD10 to CD12). WTF??? I'm on the Progynova, which is an estrogen replacement / enhancement drug, so how on earth does my E2 decrease while I'm taking it!!! My concern was the LH increase and I'm worried I might ovulate soon. But FS had said based on my follicle size (only 12mm) and E2 level (only 394), that I wouldn't be ovulating yet. And that the rise in LH might not mean anything because my LH surge level could be much higher than 10 anyway.

All in all I'm very confused. So any advice would be very welcome. I have another blood test and ultrasound on Monday which will be CD 16. Will also be doing OPK's over the weekend to see if I get anything out of them. I think this will be the first time ever that I want a NEGATIVE result from the OPK, because I just don't think my body is ready to support an embryo if I ovulate prematurely. I'm just hoping and praying that the ultrasound on Monday shows my uterus lining has thickened enough, and that my blood test shows I haven't ovulated yet.

Sorry for the completely long novel of a post. Won't do any personals since this post has been long enough already.

Hope everyone out there in BB land is going along ok.

Wishes xoxo

[Loops12]

Tantee - thanks so much. Yes the ball is very special to me and the family so Im so glad I can make it. Must be my sis looking down on me - hope she can help me to get pg.
Sorry again your cyle was unsuccessful. Glad your AF wasnt too bad.

Taureen - thank you 2. I will be resting up and thanks for your wishes for Sun.
Those baths of yours sound nice - we dont have a bath in our new house so I do miss that. Enjoy and all the best for today.

Mitf - thanks to you as well. Not long until Sun now for me. I hope we both get a BFP and I hope everyone here does soon as well x

Jasminstar - No worries LOL. Ive been trying to rest as hard as that is - when you have two dogs, a cat, 5 puppies and a DH to look after LOL. DH has been very good though - doing a lot more to help out than normal.
Thanks for you kind wishes. Im glad you're feeling better and I wish you all the very best of luck that your follies are good. GL today

EmeraldStar - No my nurse hasnt called since she rang about how many fertilised which was early Wed morning. She said she would call today (Friday) though. Could your bleeding have been from the transfer procedure because that probably messes people up a bit. I really hope it was implantation though for you. Thinking of you x

Hi Williamsemma and welcome. 8 years is a long time - I really hope this is it for you!! Your symptoms could be the hormones still or you might be pg. You might just have to wait until BT or AF. Hang in there.

Wishes - not too sure sorry but all the best and GL for Monday!

Hi to everyone and anyone I might have missed. xoxo

[juniper76]

williamsemma, if it's been 15 days since your last hcg injection I think there's a very good chance you've got a real BFP there. Unfortunately, you still need to wait for the b/t to confirm that, but I'd be cautiously optimistic if I were in your position.

wishes, my LH level was 45 for one of my IUI's. From memory, I think anything under 20 (or maybe 25) was potentially not the surge. Looking back through my charts, I had LH levels of 10-15 measured for days before the surge occurred. I know how frustrating it can be when you think you know what your body "always does" only to then feel like it's changed it's patterns just to spite you. I don't think you have cause to worry. FX the opks stay -ve for you over the weekend.

jasminstar, glad to hear your hormones are starting to cooperate. I am starting to feel that waiting is the best option, but it still scares the heck out of me...