Well where to begin. AF is just about gone and has been extremely well behaved which was great. Lucrin injection dash from my cousins wedding Friday night went well which was a relief. Started my Puregon injections Sat night at the lovely dose of 375IUs. All good there so far, no real side effects to speak of but I suppose, early days right??? Not so sure that no side effects is good though.
Had my BT bright and early yesterday morning to check on my estrogen levels and for the FS to see whether we need to increase or stay on the same dose of FSH. However, as we speak, I still don't have my next lot of instructions (I do normally get my next lot of instructions around lunch time the day of the BT). So I called my nurse at 4.50pm yesterday all worried as to what was going on. She apologised so many times and explained to myself that they haven't been able to get a hold of my FS at all . All I could assume was that he has been busy in surgery etc understandable but frustrating none the less. So had a quick chat with the nurse about my levels. Nothing official so to speak but she was trying to help me given the situation of not being able to contact the FS. I let her know that I was anxious to see how I responded on this dose of Puregon given that It was such a high dose. The response I received I didn't like and got me worried. Nurse let me know that I responded pretty much in the same way as my first cycle and then I was only on 175IUs of FSH. She told me that my estrogen levels at my BT last Thurs was 119 and then yesterday morning, was only slightly increased to 143. Not much difference if you ask me, especially for a daily FSH injection of 375. I have tried to rationalise it all, telling myself that I take my injections at 9.30pm and my first one was Sat night and so by the time BT rolled around on Tues morn, technically it was only 2 to 2.5days of FSH. So am hoping against hope it goes up. Last night though I hit the internet and looked up about the estrogen levels and now have myself in a state of worry. Im worried to say the least that things are going down the exact same path as last cycle. Is someone upstairs trying to tell me something??????
So spoke to the nurse this morning just to see if there is anything else I can be doing to get my levels up and unfortunately, theres not. Just have to hang here and wait. All I can hope is that they go way up before the next BT and possibly my first US. Nurse also confirmed that my FS did contact them there late last night after they had all gone and so will be speaking with him today and then calling me with my "official" next lot of instructions (we both agreed after not hearing from FS last night to just continue on the dose of 375IU's). Nurse also assured me that she will have a good chat with FS and I have asked her to let him know that I want to know if there is anything else I can do.
I just don't understand why this is happening. Im even doing acupuncture on a weekly basis and have had about 6 treatments now. Surely things should be better than what they are.
Have had the worst night, didn't really sleep much and now have the sorest eyes and head because of the crying. Almost lost it on the phone too this morning when talking to the nurse. I hope that these emotions are an indication of my raging hormones. DH even told me last night when laying in bed awake that If this one doesnt work, we will give going natural a go. Its only a 50/50 chance the baby wont have his gene though. So who knows .
Will be sure to let you know what happens when I get my call later.
I'm sorry for being so quiet- I've had an unbelievably busy week not the least of which has been all this attempted baby making...
Motherhood- Oh Sweetie, I'm so sorry to hear you going through this turmoil. As if all this isn't challenging enough without FSs going AWOL. My best advice to you is to focus on what you can control- taking your drugs, your diet, sleep (if you can) and generally being kind to yourself. As wonderful a resource as the internet can be, sometimes ignorance is bliss and you may just get yourself more confused and stressed by searching for information. I know it is so hard but put your faith in the experts that they know what they're doing. I think they can get a little bit blase about all this as it is their job and sometimes forget the emotional and physical toll it takes on us. Thinking of you, Honey.
Nix- I'm so so sorry to hear your news but so pleased to hear you are feeling better today. Keep your chin up, Honey. Your anonymous support network is with you every step of the way.
Coral- My Lord, 27 eggs! That's amazing but is it good or bad!! Surely there'll be some good one's amongst that lot? Please keep us updated. When are you scheduled for transfer?
Melttc- Stay positive about the 5 lovely eggs you got. Hopefully they are strong and healthy and ready to do the job. for transfer.
Sonyalouise- try to stay positive, Honey. I have everything crossed for you.
AFM- I had my second scan on Friday and the news was much better that the previous when there were only 5 follies. On Friday there were 3 on each side that FS liked the look of, a few smaller ones that he thought might be ready by EPU and a couple of larger ones that he thought wouldn't be the best quality. I left feeling much more positive and reassured that FS knew what he was doing. At my first scan when I expressed concern about the low numbers he told me that he was happy with my progress and that my E2 levels were indicating that everything was as it should be and it appears he was right.
EPU finally rolled around yesterday and we ended up with 8 eggs which I am thrilled about. That seems like a good solid number and now I'm just waiting for 1.30 when I can call the scientist. Fingers crossed.
To all those I've addressed personally and those I haven't, I'm thinking of you all.
I'm back at work today (bummer!). I hope everyone is well and things are going to plan with your cycle (where ever you are at!).
motherhood here i come - I am so sorry to hear that you estragon levels are not rising higher with the increased FSH dose... I am that you get a sudden spike before your next BT and that your FS will be able to assist with getting those stubborn numbers moving in the right direction. Know that we are all here for support and big hugs to you . This is definitely a very trying time in our lives and I keep going back to the fact that when we all finally get there...it will be that much sweeter...
Nix - It is pretty overwhelming to consider doing another stim. I faced that scenario not long ago.... I must admit that this cycle has been considerably easier to manage than the 1st as I have allot more knowledge of what to expect and what questions to ask. Good Luck with cycle #2 and I pray that it will be your last!
I will definitely have a chat to FS about a reduction in FSH.. seems like the logical thing to me - maybe 125iu.... Not that I am any expert of course, he, he!
Loops - Still have my fingers crossed that AF is nowhere to be seen... you just never know! Thank you for your support about my little eggs making it to day 5. I am so hoping...
sonyalouise - I am so sorry to hear that you have had some bleeding.. I am that it was implantation and not nasty AF on her way. Don't give up hope yet as some ladies do bleed a little and are still pregnant.... I think that our clinic's wouldn't bother getting us in for a BT after a little bit of a bleed if it wasn't possible to still be pregnant . Thanks for the well wishes in getting my little ones to blastie!
lise - GOOD LUCK with the results today! I will be awaiting with anticipation! MMmm... sounding promising... maybe baby brain?? he, he!
Meg - Fantastic! 8 is a very good number.... plenty without too many - yay! Good Luck with the call from the scientist today and I pray that all 8 fertilise for you! Make sure you let us know how you go... very happy for you .
AFM - Well, so far so good with my eggs - yay! All 14 that fertilised have divided as required today and can be described as average to good (last cycle we lost one here). I have even had another egg that didn't fertilise yesterday pick up and now I have 15 on the go... I am very thankful that I have this many and can only continue to pray that more make it to blastie stage this time round! D day seems to be day 5 for us so still along ways to go yet... The scientist did say that we should have a good one to transfer on Saturday so I am really pleased with that! They seem pretty concerned about OHSS due to high egg numbers and keep telling me to drink lots of water and eat lots of protein. I promise I have been doing both and even having 2 glasses of sustegeon everyday!
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motherhood - sorry you're going through this extra stress during what is a horrible thing in the first place. I had issue once when there was discussion about extending my days of injections for a second time during cycle 2...a conversation had to take place between my FS and the director of clinic..both who had surgery...so at 4pm I still didn't know and gave up on the clinic and phoned FS's rooms myself, and the FS called me back 10 minutes later himself. It just doesn't help us and our state of mind does it?! Good luck hope your phonecall gives you positive news.
Coral...wonderful no.s here's hoping they all keep growing nice and strong.
Meg - you're one day ahead of me..and one no. of eggs ahead of me fingers crossed for us both. are you doing 2/3 day transfer or blastie?
Nix - I can relate to the position you're in...feeling rubbish, then start to look to the next, go over the finances, and slightly bitter, but at least we can give it another go kinda feeling! hugs.
sonya and loops - good luck girls....not over till that big lady's singing.
AFM - most of the nurses said they recognised me...which isn't a good sign as it shows I've been there too many times! Anyway I did say to DH, good job they told me that before I was in theatre, knocked out with legs in stirrups.........sorry had to lighten mood in the room, as I was feeling a bit more 'over it' this morning. DH said, this'll be the last time...I said, 'we said that last time!'
Anyhoo....9 eggs, which after 5 and 5 during first 2 cycles is a no. I'm happy with. Waiting on the call to say how many fertilised.
Feeling a bit sore when I sit down, so off to lie on sofa and watch my shows.
It's a BFP!!!!!!! Reading of 130, nurse didn't comment on the level to indicate more than embie implanted but said we'd find out in the scan in two weeks!
Airline - That is fantastic news!!! 9 is a great number and I have everything crossed for you that all 9 fertilise - yay! Make sure you rest up and drink plenty of water and eat lots of protein! Let us know how they go .
lise - CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That is just the best news and has made me all giddy, he, he !!! So happy for you and it is just great to see some BFP action in here - yiipppeeee!!!!!
Lise - Huge big congratulations to you and DH. Am happy for you guys.
Just an update as finally got my call from the Nurse. Have to go up from 375IUs to 450IUs with an US and BT on Sat morning. Hmmm doesnt make me feel any better but what did help is that my nurse sensed that I wasnt all that good when she told me and actually called me back to have a chat and make sure I was as ok as I can be.
Like I told her, IVF is hard but when your there for genetic reasons and genetic reasons only, when you have these issues, it makes it twice as hard.
Heres hoping my levels go up and up and up. Got nothing else to do but FX and .
Congratulations Lise! That sounds like a perfect number! I suspect only one (unless your b/t was very early), but you'll definitely find out in 2 weeks!
Lise- CONGRATULATIONS!!!I'm so pleased for you. Now we just have to wait to hear how many!!
airline-Nice work! I'm scheduled for transfer on Friday when my little darlings will be 3 days. Can't wait to hear you fertilisation numbers!
Coral- Great news Honey. Hopefully you'll have some lovely ones in there!
AFM- All 8 fertilised!! Woo hoo! The word from the scientist is that at this stage they are all looking good. I'm so thrilled as I feel like we've got a bit of room for error. Bring on ET on Friday. And bring on more good news for all of us!
Lise- that has made my day, massive congrats to you
MotherhoodhereIcome- I wish there was something I could say to help you feel better but there isnt so I just want to offer you some ((hugs))
Meg- great news for you, that is an excellent result, I hope all those 8 keep growing
airline- thanks for the giggle about the nurses recognising you. GL and I hope all 9 fertilise for you
Coral- wow you had a huge number there, sounds like all is progressing well for you too. FX they keep doing so
mitf- ((hugs)) try to keep occupied with other things, I know its so hard to do. I hate the 2ww.
loops- whens your next stim cycle hun? ((hugs)) to you too
Mel- I only had 5 eggs last cycle, 3 fert, 1 made it far enough ((hugs))
AFM- omg where do I begin. I had an atrocious week. Lots of bad stuff going on outside of TTC world. But in TTC world lol, I went for BT & US yesterday, day 9 to find I only have 4 follies Doc has me on 225ui of GonalF up from 175ui last round. Last round I had five eggs, this time I had obviously hoped for better.
Went back for further bloods this am. Waiting to hear results of that. The follies I did have were fat juicy ones, so IM hoping thats all thats needed.
Yesterday I was pretty upset about that news, then a unmeant unthoughtful comment by a friend who falls pg just thinking about it had me in tears. Dh was late home from work and ugh it just wasnt a nice day for me.
My poor tummy is looking so battered its hard to find somewhere to put the needles in atm. I am so over this whole IVF thing & if this round is another flop we will be taking probably a 6 month break to re-group a little.
Im just hoping and praying today they tell me to take my trigger and I can have EPU soon, enough needles already
We must have been posting at the same time so I would like to take back my 'afternoon of good news on BB' comment....
I am so sorry to hear that you have had a horrible week and are feeling down . I know it has been said before, but it is all about quality rather than quantity. Last cycle I got 19 eggs and my girlfriend got 6 and she was the lucky one with the BFP. I know it doesn't help... but know that we are all here to support you .
I'll be 'ing that you get the go ahead for the trigger and that you fertilise all 4...
There is nothing worse than thoughtless comments from family/ friends.... I have come to realise that no matter how much people try to sympathise with you, they just have absolutely no idea what it feels like to have to go through this process which is so full of uncertainties.... Thinking of you and I hope your week picks up, lol.
Thx Coral & thnx to for the hugs back atchoo.
There has been some wonderful news on here tho & I am truly happy for those celebrating, gives me hope that maybe I will have some good news to share sometime in the not too distant future
Sorry about the no personals as i have missed out on too much and usually i mess things up when i have been away this long so i'm not attempting personals....i am trying to catch up with everything and good to read some good news from most of you.
CONGRATS!!! LISE i wish you all the best for a happy and healthy 9 months...Are you the first on our October Wall of Fame????
to all of you on the 2ww......lets see some more BFP
to all of you stimming...grow follies grow!!!!!!
and to anyone i've missed so sorry but i'm still keeping everyone of you in my prayers.
AFM - keeping busy, so that time can fly....so eager to start on my next cycle.
Hi Ladies, I apologise in advance if I have missed people out. There is so much going on!!!
Motherhood- I am so sorry that you have so much uncertaintity. I am with Meg about controlling what you can but I do understand how tempting it is to arm yourself with as much information as you can. One of the things this thread has taught me is that we are all so unique in our responses. What is normal for one person is unusual for another.
I hope the 450 works for you! Just make sure you drink lots and lots of water, not to mention protein the last thing you want is ohss.
Meg- good results for your EPU I am glad you are feeling more positive. Wow, all 8 fertilised fantastic! Good luck with your ET.
Coral- The results sound promising, I am sure the scientist wouldn?t have mentioned that you should have one to transfer if there wasn?t high possibility.
Ariline- Good to hear that you got a good result, I hope they all fertilise and divide!
Tracey- Towards the end of the cycle is definitely the hardest to cope with. All those hormones raging through the body coupled with the natural feelings of anxiety are not a great mix. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.
Lise-
Fabulous news!!!!
AFM- spotting has seemed to stop for the moment, I am going mad waiting until Friday!!
Could someone tell me if I am allowed to post here and the TWW, because I have some of the same things to say in both threads and at the beginning of the thread it says not to double post. I am not sure what to do.
Lise - that is the best news - I am soooo happy for you and it does give us all hope that we will be there one day. Enjoy this time - you and Dh must be so relieved.. I am so excited for you. Now just look after yourself! And we can't wait to hear more news!
Tracy I so know what you mean about people (in the non IVF world) not understanding. I don't expect people to understand but I do have a much healthier respect for people who are going through things I have no understanding of. You sounds like you are in the same kind of space as me and I have not even begun my next cycle - just so over it already and I have only done 1 cycle and 2 transfers. I just can't begin to imagine how hard this is when you've been through it twice as long as us and twice as many cycles / transfers or more - the way I feel now I just don't know how people cope. I guess you just do tho.
Coral - numbers are sounding good. GL for next few days
Meg - well done on getting all 8 fert - that is a great start and gives you some good hope that hopefully you won't have to do another cycle again.
Motherhood - glad they got back to you with some direction. Hope the follies grow well from here
Airline - thanks for your support. 9 eggs is a good number - not too low and not too high that many of them may not be mature enough. FX for good fert rates. Take it easy over the next few days
Hi to everyone else - hope you're all having a gd nite.
Hey Sonya - think we posted same time. Glad you have no more spotting. Being so close to BT on Friday you're not going to POAS? You're doing well if you hang out and wait!!
Personally i think you should be able to post a similar thing - I know it says you can't double post - but I know what you mean as it is a bit of a dif audience in 2ww - I noticed that the 1st 2ww I had. My 2nd 2ww I didn't bother posting in the 2ww thread - cos of the dilema you are having - plus I think I was avoiding BB a little bit to try keep myself not thinking about TTC so much!!
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. All I could assume was that he has been busy in surgery etc understandable but frustrating none the less. So had a quick chat with the nurse about my levels. Nothing official so to speak but she was trying to help me given the situation of not being able to contact the FS. I let her know that I was anxious to see how I responded on this dose of Puregon given that It was such a high dose. The response I received I didn't like and got me worried. Nurse let me know that I responded pretty much in the same way as my first cycle and then I was only on 175IUs of FSH. She told me that my estrogen levels at my BT last Thurs was 119 and then yesterday morning, was only slightly increased to 143. Not much difference if you ask me, especially for a daily FSH injection of 375. I have tried to rationalise it all, telling myself that I take my injections at 9.30pm and my first one was Sat night and so by the time BT rolled around on Tues morn, technically it was only 2 to 2.5days of FSH. So am hoping against hope it goes up. Last night though I hit the internet and looked up about the estrogen levels and now have myself in a state of worry. Im worried to say the least that things are going down the exact same path as last cycle. Is someone upstairs trying to tell me something??????
for transfer.
that you get a sudden spike before your next BT and that your FS will be able to assist with getting those stubborn numbers moving in the right direction. Know that we are all here for support and big hugs 
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fingers crossed for us both. are you doing 2/3 day transfer or blastie?
.....sorry had to lighten mood in the room, as I was feeling a bit more 'over it' this morning. DH said, this'll be the last time...I said, 'we said that last time!'
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Doc has me on 225ui of GonalF up from 175ui last round. Last round I had five eggs, this time I had obviously hoped for better.
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CONGRATS!!! LISE i wish you all the best for a happy and healthy 9 months...Are you the first on our October Wall of Fame???? 
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