melttc - Are you taking any injections to supress ovulation? I was doing the antagonist protocol and after about 5 days of stimming i was given Orgalutran which i had to inject twice a day (morning / night ) to stop ovulation as well as keep stimming. If in doubt call Nurses or FS tomorrow and get some advice...i didn't get any CM as far as i remember!
Oh my goodness I am away from BB for 12 hours and I can't keep up. This is just a quick note to Emerald, I will catch up with the rest of you loveley ladies a bit later.
Emerald I am so sorry to hear your news. It is that it is amazing how many of us experience all the same emotions and exhibit the same neurotic behaviour :-) And it is never boring hearing about it, look at how many of us are addicted.The great thing about BB is we all understand and it helps knowing that we aren't alone. Hopefully November will be your month.
Emerald - so sorry. Please don't think that it has not been long enough for you - we should all be so lucky as those ladies who merely look at another guy and fall pregnant. Good on you for looking ahead and thinking about the next round. Maybe have a good chat to FS and see if there is anything else that they can try for you. I really hope you get your dream soon hun.
I am seeking some advice from you who are more experienced, and hopefully less confused, than me. After 3 failed IUI cycles DH and I have decided to move onto IVF after a month's break. We have a FS appt next Monday and I have no idea what questions to ask. Given your experiences, what do you wish you had asked/known about IVF from your FS before starting treatment? I would love any guidance you can give me about what to ask. I feel a bit overwhelmed by the whole process.
I hope it's ok, but I think I'll hang around this thread.
Sal - You are welcome here of course. There would be loads more questions that I wont think of as I don't have any issues with me...ours are on DP side and we have not been through IUI. But I guess I would have wanted
* clear information on what the stats are re success rates
* what my FS belief's were about day 2 embryo transfer v's 5 day (blastocyst) v's hatching
* what FS feelings are on 2 emby transfers
* If what he proposes does not work first time, what would we do next time - given you have already been through various IUI's
I know everyone says it - but at least you and DH are young. Not sure if the above helps, hard to know what to advise what to ask!
Know that you are welcome here at BB and never think your questions are dumb - odds are a good % of the rest of us are wondering the same thing!!
emerald ~ I am taking synarel to suppress ovulation and I have found that sometimes I don't always get a full spray...half of it dribbles down the nozzle. Not sure if anyone else has that issue?? I have a scan tomorrow at 7:30 am so I will talk to FS. I might be starting cycle #2 quicker than I thought!
Welcome Sal79 - GL with your IVF journey. It can be quite daunting when you first start and you have so many questions you don't know where to begin. I found writing the questions down so that I could ask my FS or throw the question out there to BB! You will find everyone here is very supportive and informative. All the best.
Meg76- Sorry I am not sure if I answered your question about my dose. I started on 300, then it was increased to 375, then after my second scan it was increased again to 450. I must not be very sensitive to the meds or maybe just don?t have that many eggs available.
Five follies is a good number, I had six with only a couple a decent size and I ended up with 11 eggs.
Sal79- Welcome, ask any questions you want, I think Nix has about covered what I would suggest that you ask.
Mitf- Glad to here all is on track for FET
Coral 73- I am sorry I cant help you with the ohss issue, I was on the highest dose possible and my doctor said I was in no danger of ohss. Although I only ever had scans not blood tests. I hope you make it to the scan on Friday with no increase in problems. When I told my FS that I was bloated and sore he said that was a great sign!
Meltcc- Around about the 5th or 6th day of injections I had a huge amount of CM, I was told that was normal. I didn?t have any after that though. Hope you get some good results tomorrow.
Coral and Meg; At my ET my FS said ?try to relax? then he laughed at himself and asked is there something else he could say instead of relax, because he knows how we hate that word.
Motherhood- It is a very stressful time for you and I think you should book it during your TWW it will make the time go faster, I wish I was on a holiday now. Worry about extra cycles and the medicare stuff after you get the results of this cycle.
Good night ladies, I apologise to anyone I have forgotten.
And here I was thinking it had been a little quiet lately...!
Meg - I think you're spot on! As soon as I can I log on to see where everyone is up to! I know that 5 follies doesn't seem very many but the main thing is the quality. And possible you'll have more in the second scan. I'm guessing if FS hasn't increased your dose then he's happy with how you're responding, and i'd trust that.
sonyalouise - well now I have two mouth uclers, that's certainly double the symptoms. Just not really the right symptoms perhaps... And 11 children under 7? OMG! I'm even starting to worry (of course!) about if both embies stick and we have twins, about how I'd cope leaving the house with them by myself And as fo the boobs, i'm a bit the same!
mitf - glad things are all on track for you! the FET goes off without a hitch and you get the stickiest of embies.
Coral - I haven't had OHSS, but I know most of the girls swear by drinking more water, so hope that helps you ease your symptoms and prevent any further discomfort.
Motherhood here i come - this is the closest vibe I could find to send AF your way - hope it helps! As for planning, I don't think it's a bad idea to plan ahead if that helps you get through it all. And as for a holiday, if i'd had more time I would have definitely planned something for the middle of this 2WW. As well as distracting you in the 2WW you'll have hours of fun planning which will hopefully speed up all the waiting!
Emerald Star - to you. So sorry to hear of BFN. Don't apologise at all for sharing your hopes and thoughts with everyone, what else are we here for??? I really hope that you, DH and FS can take something from this cycle and put it to good use for number 3. After my cancelled first cycle I spoke with the counsellors at MIVF, and found it a very useful experience. And enjoyed a big glass of wine. Make sure you are good to yourself.
mel - what protocol are you on? Like Emerald Star, I took Orgalutran to suppress ovulation, but not sure how other protocols, or synarel work. Hope you find an answer that puts your mind at ease.
Nix - hello! How you surviving the 2WW? It's doing my head in and i've still got one week to go - I'm a bit jealous of your BT this Friday. Will be sending you lots of sticky vibes this week!
Sal - Hope your IVF journey is a short one! Before our first appointment I read everything I could find on the MIVF website and wrote all my questions down - I think the girls seem to have covered them all but don't think that any question is too small or silly, ask them all!
Well think I have covered everyone - apologies if not and hello!
Last edited by lise; October 13th, 2009 at 10:15 PM.
Sal 79: I would be asking all of the above suggested questions, but we have similar background to you guys, we did two failed IUI's before we decided to do IVF. We actually switched FS to one that we felt more comfortable and confident with. Anyway I'm getting side tracked, my point was going to be that in between IUI's and our first IVF cycle, i had investigative surgery to try and work out why i was not falling pregnant, because if i had a problem like Endo or whatever, at least it could be fixed, treated or at least known first, before we started the whole dramatic IVF process.
I guess what im saying is i would be asking is there any further investigation that should be done first with you or you partner before you start?
I have a question for my fellow sufferers lol! I am in a gap cycle between stimulated IVF cycle and my first FET, and am killing myself waiting for my period! I am currently day 35 and no sign yet. I did a pregnancy test on day 28 and again a week later on day 34 and they were both negative, i have no pregnancy symptoms and still have this lil thought in the back of my head that i could be pregnant! Its doing my head in! Plus i am wanting to get started on my FET cycle and this is just wasting time, time that i may have needed before the end of the year to do another stim cycle!
Does anyone know if its worth making an appointment with my FS re some drug to get my next cycle started already?
Hello all. Apologies for the lack of personals. We're in our third and final IUI before moving to IVF, so I wanted to say thanks to Sal79 for the question and everyone else for the answers as I've just used them with my FS! I'm very nervous about IVF for some reason. But worth it for the higher rates
Mummawannabe, I found that after my last two IVF cycles my ovulation was delayed by a week and so my cycle was a week longer than normal. It's very common to have a long cycle after an IVF cycle. If you're concerned, I don' think there's a problem with consulting your FS. They can test your progesterone level to see if you have O'd and if you haven't you could take something to bring on AF.
Coral73, I have no idea on the tax front either. I've got the statements from both Medicare and MBP and I'm just hoping my accountant will know what to do with them...
Mummawanabee - I have just had an in between cycle off and was also extremely frustrated by the lack of AF. However, she did finally arrive 8 days late. I usually have a standard 28 day cycle so it was stretched out to 36 days. I was also worried on how the delay, drugs and hormones would effect my following FET cycle. Was happy to discover I fell straight back into my normal rhythm and I ovulated on day 14 of this cycle.
LondonMiss - I was quiet anxious about moving to IVF as well. In the end I actually found that it wasn't as big a deal as I thought it would be. I guess it was just partly that unknown factor. GL with your next IUI though.... hopefully third times a charm and you won't have to worry about progressing to IVF.
Melttc - I haven't had that problem with the synarel. You may need to insert it a little higher. I find that if I block the opposite nostril and sniff as I pump, it doesn't dribble.
Coral - I was pretty sore and bloated on my stim but managed to avoid OHSS. You have to be pretty unlucky to get it..... a couple of women on here have had minor doses which may or may not have affected their transfer. Keep you fluids up and FX that things will be fine.
Sal – I found my first IVF was one big learning experience. No matter how many Q’s I asked or how much research I did – Q’s sprung up along the way. It was usually easier to understand the answers as the various stages of treatment because they could be related back to what I was experiencing at the time. The two main question that Nix has already mentioned is discussing the options for the number of day transfers, plus the possibility of multiple transfers. You might also like to ask under what circumstance your FS may consider cancelling your cycle.
Lise, SonyaLouise & Nix hope you guys are surviving the TWW. I look forward to joining you in a couple of days.
mitf xo
Last edited by mitf; October 14th, 2009 at 05:06 PM.
Emerald- I'm so sorry to hear your potential positive is a BFN. It made me feel silly for being a bit down about my follicle number when you have had such a disappointment. I am really impressed and inspired by your positive attitude towards it all and I'm sending all my most positive vibes for a successful #3. Bigs hugs for you.
Lise, Sonyalouise and Emerald- thanks for the encouraging words re my less than impressive follicle number. You are all absolutely correct of course, I should trust the expertise of my FS and after all, I just need one good one that sticks...
Coral73- How are you feeling today? Any more signs of OHSS? Thinking of you. x
Sal79- I am also new to the forum and have so far found it a really useful therapeutic tool. This is a space where you can share what you're going through with people who really do understand. I agree that it is a good idea to do a bit of your own research before your FS visit and have all your questions written down. Also, if you don't understand something or want further clarification on anything, don't hesitate to ask your FS or nurse. I have found this to be a good way of making sure I had the info that I needed. My FS doesn't say much but once he realised I am a bit of a nerd with a science background he was more than happy to talk to me without being condescending. He has even offered to lend me copies of the medical journals. Anyway, all the best with everything. xx
Emerald ~ Im terribly sorry hun that you had your hopes up and were then let down - so unfair but I love your attitude and you help me so much being so strong. Big
All the best for try #3. Hopefully we can go through it together again and help each other xo.
Mummawannabe - I was told that coming out of a stim cycle it is quite common for your next cycle to be longer than normal - just due to your body getting its balance back after all the drugs.
Hi to everyone else. Sorry girls for quick post - hope you are all OK.
I hope everyone is well and progressing along nicely in their cycles! I'll apologise in advance for missing some personals as it is so hard to keep up with everyone!
Lise/ Emerald Star/ Meg76/ sonyalouise - Thanks for your concern, well wishes and advice about avoiding OHSS . I got really worried about it by late yesterday afternoon and ended up calling one of the nurses after hours as it felt like my tummy couldn't possibly stretch any bigger!
She reassured me and advised that it would be extremely rare to get OHSS before EPU as it usually shows up after. I am also not showing any other classic symptoms either so it looks like I now have one less thing to worry about . I'm also pleased to report that I've woken up this morning and the bloating seems to have gone down a fair bit and I feel allot more comfortable - yay!
Emerald Star - I am so sorry to hear about your BFN and big hugs for you . I was really hoping that this was it for you.... Don't worry for 1min about anything you post on this forum as sonyalouise pointed out . We're all going through this together and need to be able to communicate what we're feeling with people in similar situations... I don't know how I even got through most of my 1st cycle without BB!
I am that it will be lucky cycle #3 for you.
Meg76 - Try not to worry about the amount of eggs you have at the moment... I know with my 1st cycle by the time EPU came around I had an extra 3 eggs that hadn't shown up on the scan earlier. It is definitely all about the quality and not quantity as well.... My girlfriend went through IVF at the same time as me and she got heaps less eggs than I did and yet, she was the one that ended up with the BFP! I hope this helps ease your mind a little.. lol.
melttc - I had similar concerns when I started on the injections as I noticed clear CM as well. I thought exactly the same things as you in that it's usually a sign of ovulation! I meant to ring the nurse about it and then just forgot. The CM disappeared after a few days. It's probably agood idea to just call your FS to check though...
Sal79 - Welcome to BB and a big Good Luck for your 1st IVF cycle! The only advice that I can give is that I wish I had of asked more questions about what the drugs I am taking actually did and what the ideal outcome was for each stage of the IVF process.
Mummawannabe - I was late four days after my stim cycle and are usually like clockwork. I think that it is pretty normal to be late... I will send AF vibes your way as I know how frustrating it can be waiting for her to arrive when you just want to start another cycle!
LondonMiss - I am really sorry for your BFN, but am really happy that you get to do an IUI before starting IVF. I'll have my fingers crossed for you that this will be the one and that there will be no need to move onto IVF!
AFM - Feeling allot better today and the bloating has subsided a great deal as well - yay! Starting to get excited (and a little apprehensive) about the scan and BT on Friday... I just hope I have some good quality follies in there!
Last edited by Coral73; October 14th, 2009 at 12:44 PM.
Thanks to Juniper 76, Mitf, Nix76 and Coral 73 for your replies. I feel more reassured now that my long wait is somewhat normal and that it isn't my infertile body playing up again. I was starting to get quite frustrated thinking what else could be wrong with my reproductive bits now, and that I didnt even 'O'.
Ok, learnt a valuable lesson...don't stay from BB for longer than you have to!!!! I left it on Friday, and tried to catch up last night when I returned from a long weekend away, but was too tired to read it all and reply! I think the easiest thing is to reply to the bits I can see...which is last 24 hours, sorry if I miss out a personal...
EMERALD - my dear...so sorry and big hugs, you've had a turbulent weekend it seems. as someone else said...don't feel like you don't deserve that BFP straight away.... I wish that there was no need for this website, but as there are soo many of us in the same boat, it is a godsend and even if noone reads/responds, I often feel better to pour out my heart on here, esp. if I think DH has had enough for the day!!
MELTTC - I've had CM at various points of cycle...don't worry about it too much. I've never had synarel dribble down nozzle, but certainly have pumped it and not felt/tasted it. I sometimes do it again, and take note of any extra pumps. There's 60 sprays to a bottle of mine, so plenty of extras.
SAL79 - you've already had various answers to your qstn but I'll throw in my tuppence
- we found it useful to talk to the scientist at our clinic...they offered for her to pop in and chat to us about the procedure from her point of view. it was great and meant that we understood how for example it was more complicated to freeze a 5 day blastie as opposed to a 2/3 day embie (more cells to draw liquid out of in order to freeze) plus other situations. It's a small clinic, so maybe not available everywhere, but worth asking.
- remember that statistics they give you will poss. be the 'best stats' collated over a certain period, not always a true representation of success rate. my clinic don't give them out as they believe that it's difficult to give a true representation as each couple have a different situation ie. age, problems, etc
- the first cycle was like anything new, we sat, were told, asked questions, went away to process etc. Now on our 3rd we know what we want. That's not to say we know it all, but for example between cycles I wanted minimum amount of time, and I know they can do a 'pill crossover' cycle where they put you on the pill then take you off to induce a bleed, so I asked for that as soon as my last cycle failed.
- the first amount of Gonal F (injection and can be called by another name- but basically it's what makes you produce multiple follicles) is a stab in the dark to see how you react. They will be conservative as hyperstimulation is nasty and as they told me you can end up in intensive care and they want to avoid that at all costs.
I'm sure there's more...but you get the gist. Any good clinic will tell you to call if you have any queries...and there's always BB
MUMMAWANNABE - not sure if anyone's answered this, but as I mentioned above to Sal79, when my 'inbetween' bleed didn't occur between stim cycle 1 and 2, they put me on pill for 3 weeks, then took me off to get withdrawl bleed. So after 2 not working I asked for it straight away, which meant min. amount of time between cycles. Not sure if this is the same between stim and FET.
CORAL - great the bloating's gone down...which scan are you having? is the first scan since injections started or 2nd to see how much they've grown before EPU? I had first yesterday and am quite happy. fingers crossed for you girl!
AFM - well thank you to all who asked about our party on Saturday. We actually had a long weekend away with about 12 other people and a big birthday party to start it off. We had a ball, I barely thought about TTC other than taking my drugs and I hate to say it, but I reckon it's cos there was not one baby or child there the whole time. In fact, noone there even had any to talk about!!!!! Incredible and blissful. DH got very very very drunk, and was sick at party, but I looked after him and he was alright .... 24 hours later! He did get a bit emotional and talked about TTC which was sad, but other than that had an awesome time.
For anyone that remembered/or cared....my killer shoes were a hit and although my feet were sore....I LOVE them!
We came back to reality and yesterday had first scan since injections and have about 12 follies...although from experience a few are too small to be considered any good...unless they get a good growth spurt. EPU is one week today and all is good in the world.
hello to everyone else that I normally say hi to....big hugs.
And as fo the boobs, i'm a bit the same!
the FET goes off without a hitch and you get the stickiest of embies.
this is the closest vibe I could find to send AF your way - hope it helps! As for planning, I don't think it's a bad idea to plan ahead if that helps you get through it all. And as for a holiday, if i'd had more time I would have definitely planned something for the middle of this 2WW. As well as distracting you in the 2WW you'll have hours of fun planning which will hopefully speed up all the waiting!
to you. So sorry to hear of BFN. Don't apologise at all for sharing your hopes and thoughts with everyone, what else are we here for??? I really hope that you, DH and FS can take something from this cycle and put it to good use for number 3. After my cancelled first cycle I spoke with the counsellors at MIVF, and found it a very useful experience. And enjoyed a big glass of wine. Make sure you are good to yourself.
Hope your IVF journey is a short one! Before our first appointment I read everything I could find on the MIVF website and wrote all my questions down - I think the girls seem to have covered them all but don't think that any question is too small or silly, ask them all!
. I got really worried about it by late yesterday afternoon and ended up calling one of the nurses after hours as it felt like my tummy couldn't possibly stretch any bigger! 
He did get a bit emotional and talked about TTC which was sad, but other than that had an awesome time. 
and all is good in the world.
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