I have been quite busy so haven't had a chance to get on lately...however i was thinking about Loops today and thought i'd check in...
Loops - I was hoping to read some good news, but looks like they are still stuffing you around...i agree with all the other ladies....GET HEAVY!!! I will be lurking to see what happens...my prayers are with you hon!
Ladies sorry, no other personals..but why aren't there more names on that list!!!!
Looks like i will have to pray a little harder for you all and sprinkle more
and ....i'm can already feel some positivity coming...
AFM - well, yesterday had a massive bleed, and thought everything was all over...clinic got me in straight away and after all that trauma, the little peanut was still there safely in its sac and its little heart beating away....i am still exhausted after the emotional rollercoaster yesterday and have been taking it easy all day...looks like this pregnancy is going to be full of hurdles right throughout!
Hey MellyBelly - I think we're in sync - I'm on day 3 of the injections too for my 1st IVF cycle - although I notice that you've done chlomid cycles previously - pls excuse my ignorance, but is that when they think everything else is fine, they just don't see you ovulating?
So I started injections (gonal-f) Monday, and they don't want to see me until next Monday (22nd) - I'm wondering why I'm not having to go in this week to see how the dosage (150) is working for me? I don't want them to be complacent and then for me and DH to be in the same position a few months down the track because it turned out that the dosage was too low or too high.
And I KNOW I should be drinking 3ltrs+ per day but man I am struggling to make it past 2.5ltrs.... and I am peeing like a racehorse
I'm tossing up on whether to go for accupuncture next week, as I'm assuming EPU will be towards the end of next week? Guess I'll find out when it is when they see me on Monday.
Is it corny that I went and bought 'What to Expect when You're Expecting'? I'm really trying to think positively that it'll happen 1st time, but I know that it rarely does.
MellyBelly - what things have they advised you to do other than water & protein?
CK77: not silly for being obtomisitic you have to be otherwise you can mad thinking of the what if's... clomid can be mostly for those who ovulate at odd times or not at all I was given it to give dh's swimmers more targets to hit to compensate for slightly low sperm count.
Melly: SO sorry to see you in here too ah but we are now taking the next step and hopefully this is what gets us our miracles..
Loops: How u going today have you rang up and demanded BT's or scans yet? hoping you get some answers soon. hugs chick
Sorry ladies just keeping it short again as Im at work.
Hi to the newbies and wishing you all the very best for your cycles
Trueblue~ thanks hun. Havent spoken to them because yet again there is a different nurse on. My original nurse is on leave still I think, her replacement is not in and I got another nurses messagebank
I think Im just gunna wait until I see Mac and here everythinh from his mouth. Hopefully there is a BT referral in the mail tonight. Wont hold my breath lol.
Em- star ~ Good to hear from you again not good that you had that bleed, must have been terrifying. The bleeding has been bad enough for me so I can only imagine how it affected you. Im so pleased to hear bub is hanging in there though and that gives me hope too. I can't wait until I hear a hopefully soon.
Hi to all you other wonderful ladies and I wish you all the best for waiting, jabbing, sniffing, EPUs, ET's etc
AFM ~ Still wanting some advice and stuff from the nurses and FS and not really getting any assistance. Had accupuncture last night though and she is so fantastic. She reasures me and is completely understanding and obviously really good at what she does too. She said my bleed could have just been a cervical bleed esp since my cervix is still closed - such reassuring words. Thanks for all your support everyone xoxo
loops ~ keep up the positive thoughts!! I am that this all sorts itself out very soon!!
CK77 ~ hope your are travelling well in your cycle..They will schedule your first scan usually 6 -7 days after your first injection. So don't worry this is normal. Highly recommend acupuncture during your IVF cycle and especially before and after EPU. I started acupuncture for the first time in the first week of my cycle and I wish I had started earlier. My acupuncturist says my chi (energy) levels are low and my fire element is too weak..so we worked on improving that.
Em-star ~ sorry to hear about your little scare yesterday but very relieved to hear that it's all ok!
terry ~ I am curious to ask what made you decide to see an immunologist and how did they confirm that your body is not allowing the embryo's to stick. Either way I hope this helps to solve your TTC problems.
Hello to anyone else I might have missed..
AFM - Not quite half way through the TWW....but I am so happy how time is going quickly for me at the moment and sorry to those where time is going slow. Trying not think about the whole TWW as I am just happy to sit back and see how things pan out.
Loops I so hope you get some answers today and don't have to go through another weekend of waiting. But I'm so glad your acupucturist has given you some hope.
Emstar thank god it was only a scare and that the little one is safe and sound.
Melttc I hope your wait continues to be easy and that this is your month To briefly answer your question after all my cycles last year I noticed different things happening to my body when AF arrived and I was convinced that something must have been happening. I spoke to my FS and said that I wasn't satisfied with my unexplained and were there anymore tests that could be done. I had a whole heap of blood tests done to rule out certain things that can cause infertility and with one of them I have a really hign count of antibodies that help fight disease. Everyone has them but I'm in a 5% group where they are more than double the ratio they believe that becuase of this my body thinks the embryo is forgein so they attack it. It makes sense to me cause I hardly ever get sick. Women who get treated with this end up increasing their chances by over 50%.
Hi to everyone else and hope you are all travelling well
Emstar - I'm so glad everything is ok. It must have been so scary for you.
CK77 - that was the same time mine first scan was scheduled for, so don't worry. the FS will then probably do one every 2 days.
terry - that's amazing about the anti-bodies. Is there a remedy for that?
Loops - I can't believe its still going - you have a little fighter on your hands there!!
Melttc - I found the first week went pretty quickly, it was just towards the end of the second week that the people around me that knew said 'do a test, do a test'!! And I caved!! But next time, I'll be sure not to cave!! It has just caused further anxiety I think...
KrisGray - GL with BT on Saturday
dreamrise659 GL with your cycle.
GL to everyone else, wherever you are in your cycle!!
AFM - just had some confusing news from the FS ... he said that I wasn't out yet, that 16 was not the residue, my progestorone levels were through the roof, and that technically I was 30 days pregnant. He said just to wait till 9:30am when my results will be through to see what my hcg level was doing. The thing is, I stopped taking the presseries on Tuesday and had a few glasses of wine in the meantime (thinking I was really out). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to be confused until 9:30 - only 47 minutes away (not that I'm counting)!!
hi guys, i am still alive just been flat out all week with work and work and trying to lose some weight, so going for walks and swimming.
anyway i havn't even read all your posts, sorry.
nothing much happening for me AF due on sun then next month we're on track for IVF/ ICSI round two.
M2B, I just sent you a PM and replied to you in the TWW. Wow, FX for you. Not long till you hear now - 15 minutes! I'll check in again soon.
Terry, can I ask what test you had done that discovered you were in the 5% group? Is it natural killer cells? I had a whole lot of tests done earlier this year and everything came back fine, but NK cells test has slipped through the cracks. I had a BT for it this week but haven't got the results back yet. It's all very interesting, though. What is the recommended treatment for you?
AFM, it didn't work - again - this cycle. I've been keeping to myself a fair bit. We've swapped doctors and the new FS is throwing everything at us. But my body isn't playing ball as what I thought was AF was heavy spotting. If it doesn't come soon, all my dates for scans etc will be out and my FS may be out of the country when the transfer happens! Damn!
Hello Girls, sorry I have been MIA for quite a long time XXXXX
Had a bit of a rough trot for the past month trying to cope with my MC from last year, and the girls from MC+Loss forum have been great.
I will try to catch up quickly on whats happening!!
Emstar, so glad to hear that everythink is ok after that scary bleed XX Am praying that the rest of you pregnancy can go nice and smooth from here on in XXX
Loops, honey, wow I have read a little of your story, I can't beleive you have had to take the long road on this, darling I am sure things will be fine, rest up and think happy thaughts, and congrats by the way XXXXX
JBM good luck for your next cycle, I look forward to sharing your crazy moments with you!!XX
Mum2b, I am eagerly awaiting your post, I hope you have good news for us XXX
Terry, am so glad you have mentioned this test, I suggested it to my FS last month and he said that unless I have 3 unsuccessfull attempts at IVF, he doesn't want to think of that yet..............ok for him, we can swap bank accounts if he wants!!
Melttc, you are a strong woman!! Good luck with the rest of the TWW XX
Mellybelly I hope that your cycle runs smooth and successfull!! Wish I could use your excuse to get out of familt easter!!!
KGray, welcome honey, and good luck!X
CK77 it's not corny, whats corny, is that I went out and got the Twilight books and am obsessed with them!! Can't put the darn things down!! Im in love with Edward.....shame!
I am sure that every positive thaught you have, can only be healthy for you, and we all have out own little ways of getting through the cycle, no matter how corny we think it is.
And anyway, stay positive!!XX
Trueblue, I had 3 iui's, each time I was on 50iu puregon, trigger of Pregnyl before transfer, then supporting pregnyl 4dp and 8dp transfer.
Yes you are awake for the transfer, just like having a papsmear honey, it's not painfull at all I promise XXXXX
Yes emotional time, not hormonal from the druggs, but just plain emotional, esp TWW, the TWW is always the hardest part for me!!
Sorry to miss anyone X I will catch up with you all soon X
Well my FET was cancelled 2 days ago.
I was taking 50mg Clomid from day 5 to 9, then bloods on day 11.
Bloods looked great, had a scan on day 13, which showed I had 5 follies all above 22mm, 3rd shadow on uterus, but my lining was only 4mm, so disapointing! Had never been on clomid before, talk about feeling like an explosion had gone of in my ovaries!
Had a Trigger of 5000iu Pregnyl 2 nights ago to release the eggs.
Was advised to obstain from sexual activities for a few days!! Woopy!
Will try again next month, this time on 50iu Puregon, to help thicken my lining.....oh the ride.....gotta love it and hate it!
And I thaught this would be smooth sailing!!
Take care all, sorry it has been so long since i have caught up with you all XXXXX
Murraycod, sorry to hear that your cycle was cancelled! You sound like you're in pretty good spirits, though, which is good to hear.
Emstar, I meant to say in my last post: thank god the `little peanut' is still happily ensconsced where s/he should be. That must have been a scary ordeal for you both.
I am out, going for my BT this morning but bleeding heavily and cramping which started yesterday at only 10dpo. My husband is completely and entirely unsupportive, telling me I am "overreacting" after the first thing he asked me when I told him I was bleeding was 'well how much money do we have left". I slept in another room last night and I hate him so much at the moment. He does nothing for the entire cycle, but doesn't like that I get upset when I'm not pregnant and says that I should just move on. I guess I could if I had so little invested as he does.
I am having at least a month off now but will speak to you ladies in April and hope you have better luck than me
Lairdoz - I'm so sorry. Just make sure you give DH a swift hit up along side the head when you are feeling better. It's already difficult to deal with without havening to put up with unsupportive behaviour from the one who is supposed to support you the most. I have my FX that its all ok, and may still prove to be positive... Maybe once everything quietens down have a talk with him about how he reacted and how it made you feel so he is more thoughful next time (although I seriously hope everything is still ok this time, so there won't have to be a next time!!).
Sorry no other personals ATM.
Just a quick one - my hcg came back at 27 (so still way too low, and it didn't double ) but my progestorone is 370 - so very high. I have to go back next Thursday for another test. It seems to be one of those cruel tricks of nature where my body thinks its preg, has a sack, but the sack is empty ... otherwise its just a very slow starter - just like its daddy !! LOL!!
Anyway, the good thing is that I know there is nothing wrong with me. DH had vas - so it was always thought to be him that was the problem, but those little thoughts about my own fertility creep in given I've never fallen pregnant before. So at least that is a positive. FS said because it is a technical 'preg' on my first round, things are very positive for the next round
Last edited by mum-2-be; March 19th, 2010 at 10:31 AM.
Lairdoz so sorry to hear that your out and you feel you are going through this alone. I'm sure when you are feeling better you and DH will talk about it and sort through things maybe his comments were insensative but it may be his way of coping with the loss too. men do starnge things sometimes.
murraycod sorry that you had to cancel your cycle although it's never happened to me I know that's its probably right up there in the meotion stakes as the TWW. Take care of yourself and lets hope the next one is the one for you
Brunette a change can sometimes be a good thing as each FS I'm sure has their own way of doing things and sometimes just one little thing makes a differnce.
Quite a few of you have been interested in learning about my tests so I'll tyr to explain. Firstly I had 3 failed attempts of IVF and I grew frustrated by this as I ovualte regulary and with my first pick up they got 20 eggs of which 9 fertilised. I decided that I didn't wnat to waste anymore time an unexplained wasn't good enough for me anymore so I spoke to my FS about doing more tests. Late last year I had quite a few blood tests done for things such as thyroid, lupus and ANA. All my tests came back ok except for an elevated level of white blood cells which help our bodies fight colds, disease etc. They have a count level of what is normal and I'm well above the normal. and over the years they have found ladies going through IVF with this were no concieving so they believe that our bodies are also killing off the embryo. Once these last tests come in then the actaul course of treatment will be detrmined at this stage they will probably put me on hepraprin or something like that to reduce my cells and also thin my blood. If thats not successful then it will be full blown presidonal (to supress my immune system).
Sorry for the long post but if anyone wants more info then just PM me
My DH rang me and told me that perhaps I need to be tougher. I feel like I am living a parallel life! I mean is IVF known as some kind of holiday to everyone but me? My DH tried to be nice but I know he really thinks I am being a bit pathetic. I am known for being a very tough person so the fact he says I need to toughen it about this process amazes me. I do all the procedures on my own so I don't think he gets it at all! (end of rant)
I am feeling better now if only because I found out that I have 4 blasts of which 3 are very good quality. Am thinking I will ask my FS if I can put two back in next time as the costs of IVF are killing us.
Did any of your FS's give you advice as to when you are allowed to put 2 back?
Thanks ladies, I was an awful, awful mess this morning but am feeling a bit better now
xxx
Lairdoz - I know how you feel about doing the process yourself. They really get the easy end of the deal. My new FS told my DH he has to masturbate every day including the day before egg pick up and he acted like the end of the world. My FS had to remind him of everything I had been through this year and told him to suck it up.
My DH can be pretty insensitive as well, especially when I had my first m/c. But I have found it is mainly when I push him away and don't let him in. I found the counselling helped us pull together a lot. Without it I don't think we would have made it this year.
My previous FS said he would not transfer 2 embryos until I was over 35, my new FS said we can do 2 this time as she is just going to try everything including assisted hatching and embryo glue to try and get a result for us.
Lairdoz - I'm only 27 and quite healthy (it is DH who had vas) so my FS STRONGLY advised us to only put in 1, but given the costs and the higher % of 1 taking if we put 2 in, we decided to put 2 in. As my other posts read, it appears as tho none took.
The only thing you need to consider is whether you would be ok with having twins .- and the additional complications that can arise with twins ... I figured I'd rather have twins than none at all (unfortunately this time I got none at all!!).
Thanks Ladies, I love BB. I have such a headache from all the crying these past two days, but reading your replies makes such a difference.
I just rang my clinic and I am not pregnant, but more concerning is that my progesterone is only 30 which considering I am on Crinone the nurse said explains why nothing happened (it's been about 140 at this time in my other cycles). She said I will have to have injections if and when I do this again as that number is way too long at 11dpo when you are on Crinone.
Sorry for no persies, I hope I am back up to saying hello and supporting you guys as you have supported me very soon. Please let there be lots of BFP's before I come back xxx
....i'm can already feel some positivity coming...
hopefully soon.
~ KrisGray (GL with BT on Sat) & dreamrise659. 
that this all sorts itself out very soon!!
To briefly answer your question after all my cycles last year I noticed different things happening to my body when AF arrived and I was convinced that something must have been happening. I spoke to my FS and said that I wasn't satisfied with my unexplained and were there anymore tests that could be done. I had a whole heap of blood tests done to rule out certain things that can cause infertility and with one of them I have a really hign count of antibodies that help fight disease. Everyone has them but I'm in a 5% group where they are more than double the ratio they believe that becuase of this my body thinks the embryo is forgein so they attack it. It makes sense to me cause I hardly ever get sick. Women who get treated with this end up increasing their chances by over 50%.
dreamrise659 GL with your cycle.
- only 47 minutes away (not that I'm counting)!!
) but my progestorone is 370 - so very high. I have to go back next Thursday for another test. It seems to be one of those cruel tricks of nature where my body thinks its preg, has a sack, but the sack is empty 
... otherwise its just a very slow starter - just like its daddy 
!! LOL!! 
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