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  1. #1
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    Jun 2009
    156

    i spoke to oncology registrar and she confirmed mums cancer is now locally advanced.she may also have to wait an extra month for surgery.the lump in lymph nodes is bigger than i thought and her ct and bone scan results cant rule out totally cancer anywhere else. as results werent clear enough due to other health problems

  2. #2
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    May 2009
    Brisbane
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    Trubabe, I'll keep your mum in my prayers. I hope the next appointment brings good news.

    littlegem, I'm so sorry to hear the heartbreaking journey you've been on so far. Have you done the same protocol each time? I didn't get more eggs when we increased the dose, but plenty of other women do. You just have to try it to find out unfortunately. I hope the next cycle brings the golden egg you've been waiting for.

    Emerald Star, I noticed you'd been RAK'd. I received an email from BB about the RAK earlier this week which was how I knew about it... Couldn't happen to a nicer lady!

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Member

    May 2009
    Sydney NSW
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    littlegem_98 - So Sorry to hear about your past year... have you done the same protocol every time e.g Antagonist or Down reg or have you tried both? I know the financial stress doesn't help the situation, however please remeber that alot of the girls on here were once where we are and they have had success...i'll keep everything crossed for you..also who are you doing IVF with??

    Wishingbaby - You are on the LIST!!!

    Loops12 - Thankyou babe!!!!! Sorry to ask you this, but i couldn't remember, is tomorrows scan your final scan before EPU? Good luck!!

    trubabe - there are no words at this time to ease what you are going through....be strong and we will all pray for some good news to come to you and your family..

    Juniper76 - you are just too kind with your words....you ladies are making me feel soooooooo special ( i luv it)

    AFM - Embryologist called today here are the reults:
    Yesterday Today
    1x A grade 2 cell 1x A grade 6 cell
    1x A grade 4 cell 1x A grade 8 cell
    1x B grade 2 cell 1xB grade 5 cell
    1x B grade 3 cell 1xB grade 7 cell

    AWAITING BT RESULTS
    bj*81 - 10th February
    sharee - 11th February
    danyelle - 15th February
    wishingbaby - 15th February
    emerald star - 16th February (pending)

    The Hall Of Fame for 2010:
    January - NIL
    February - ???

  4. #4
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    Oct 2008
    Sydney
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    littlegem_98 - So Sorry to hear about your past year... have you done the same protocol every time e.g Antagonist or Down reg or have you tried both? I know the financial stress doesn't help the situation, however please remeber that alot of the girls on here were once where we are and they have had success...i'll keep everything crossed for you..also who are you doing IVF with??

    Wishingbaby - You are on the LIST!!!

    Loops12 - Thankyou babe!!!!! Sorry to ask you this, but i couldn't remember, is tomorrows scan your final scan before EPU? Good luck!!

    trubabe - there are no words at this time to ease what you are going through....be strong and we will all pray for some good news to come to you and your family..

    Juniper76 - you are just too kind with your words....you ladies are making me feel soooooooo special ( i luv it)

    AFM - Embryologist called today here are the reults:
    Yesterday Today
    1x A grade 2 cell 1x A grade 6 cell
    1x A grade 4 cell 1x A grade 8 cell
    1x B grade 2 cell 1xB grade 5 cell
    1x B grade 3 cell 1xB grade 7 cell

    AWAITING BT RESULTS
    bj*81 - 10th February
    sharee - 11th February
    danyelle - 15th February
    wishingbaby - 15th February
    emerald star - 16th February (pending)

    The Hall Of Fame for 2010:
    January - NIL
    February - ???

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    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Sydney
    20

    have you done the same protocol every time e.g Antagonist or Down reg or have you tried both?
    what is this??? but i have written it down to ask my FS today , and BIG THANKYOU all for your kind words, fingers are crossed for all of you girls too!!!!

    TruBaby im sorry to hear of your saddness

  6. #6
    Registered User

    May 2009
    Brisbane
    3,105

    have you done the same protocol every time e.g Antagonist or Down reg or have you tried both?
    what is this??? but i have written it down to ask my FS today , and BIG THANKYOU all for your kind words, fingers are crossed for all of you girls too!!!!
    Have you used the same drugs in the same way each time?

    For the long down reg protocol you start Synarel or Lucrin at 7dpo (or CD21) in the cycle before your IVF cycle and continue it until EPU (egg pickup). You may or may not have used BCP earlier that cycle. You start FSH (puregon or gonal-f) injections early in the IVF cycle and continue that until EPU too.

    For an antagonist protocol, you don't start any drugs in the cycle before the IVF cycle. When your IVF cycle starts (with AF) you start FSH injections around CD1-4 and when the follicles reach a certain size you start the antagonist (eg Orgalutran) to prevent you ovulating before EPU.

    In both cases you'd have a trigger (hcg - eg Ovidrel or Pregnyl) shot ~36 hours before EPU, then EPU, then transfer and then start progesterone (you might start progesterone between EPU and transfer for some clinics). You may also have hcg booster shots during the 2ww.

    There's also another protocol (flare protocol) which has you starting Lucrin at the same time you start FSH injections.

    So, essentially, the difference between all the protocols is the method of suppression (Synarel vs Lucrin vs Orgalutran) to prevent you ovulating before your EPU.

    Lairdoz, I've done pregnyl booster shots (lower dose than for trigger) during the 2ww for two of my IVF cycles. My understanding is that our bodies metabolise hcg to produce progesterone and so it helps that way. I think there might also be a theory that it makes the body more receptive to an implanting embryo by making it think it's already pg (affects the uterine lining somehow). It's fairly common, I just don't understand why they do it that well.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jun 2009
    156

    hi ladies, i would like your advice.when i see gynae on monday to try organizing laparoscopy i was going to see if there were any other tests that could be run since the twenty or so that have already been done have all been normal.so was wondering what other tests i could ask to be run? (probably not so common tests since they have all been done) i was thinking of asking for NK cell test/antibody test but thats all i've thought of.

    Oh and heres a laugh. saw my mum last week and took up her -mp3 player, perand toiletries for hospital (though most were ordered before we found out about her cancer) any way talking to her yesterday she pointed out that one thing i took up she wont need in hospital-a really pretty smelling 2 in 1 shampoo/conditioner.she started losing her hair last thursday.talk about blonde, i didnt even register the fact it was shampoo and mum would have no hair when i gave it to her.so been getting teased by mum and my DP since then lol

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Jan 2010
    504

    wishingbaby/juniper76 - Thanks for the info on Pregnyl, just didn't know if it was a trigger shot why you would take after transfer but that makes sense. Thanks also Juniper76 for the info on the different IVF cycles - when I had mine I was surprised I could start so quickly as I thought everyone had 6-8 week cycles in IVF.

    Trubabe - I had a friend who went through chemo and she still washed her head - she says it smelt nice with the shampoo so it won't go to waste! Can't help with the tests info, I think if I were in your position I would be asking the FS if there are any other tests and put the onus on him/her.

    Emerald Star - Hope your embies are still doing well

    Loops12 - great news on your follies - it's hard to interpret some of what the medical staff say sometimes, little do they know we are hanging off every word to hear some good news!

    MelissaI - I hope all goes well for Sunday, can you still do an EPU even if you can't transfer this month? I know that cancellation is worse sometimes that a BFN so I'll have my fingers crossed for you

    Hi to everyone else

    AFM - Just caught up with one of my best friends for lunch and guess what - she's pregnant! That makes three people in total close to me now pregnant, each one telling me just before my transfer or BT dates for the last three cycles. Surely I deserve to have an IVF cycle where I don't have to get excited for someone else getting pregnant by seemingly only having to high-five their partner!

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Jan 2010
    504

    Emerald Star - glad today went well - next Thursday will come before you know it. I have only once used an HPT and that was last cycle. I was going insane waiting for the blood test and am happy I did it as it's way too dramatic for me to have to ring to get dissapointing news. I felt prepared as I already knew I wasn't pregnant but just had to go through the process. Here's hoping for some double lines for you v.v.soon!

    murraycod - my embies are all three dayers - I had four left and my doc doesn't do blasts for less than 5. I guess I'm glad he doesn't because one of them turned into my DD. The thaw rate at my clinic is 70-80% for the process mine went through, but for any I have frozen from now it's 90% so I think thaw rates are getting better each year. Glad to hear you are in a good place too.

    littlegem_98 - I sometimes wish we lived in the US so I could put more than one embie back at a time - of course I don't want twins, but just to increase my chances a bit