Thanks loops just a quick one, before DH and i found out we needed IVF and were trying naturally i would check my temp every morning before i got out of bed so that it was a consistant time, i ovulate fine but i never found charting my temp worked for me? it never went up and down like it said it should on the temp guide it always seemed to be around the same number, so i gave up on that after 2 months. I hope this helps?