LT TTC & taking Clomid/Metformin 2010 #1

[Clamgee]

Living in Scotland sucks cos I miss all the excitement as it happens! I get to read the emails when you guys are all tucked up in bed and there's noone around to play with!

Porsche - I know what u mean about being so over the bleeding. Mine lasted for almost 2 weeks and it was a constant reminder! Pig! Hope your first day back went ok.

Tammara - you must be so excited. Fingers crosses all your stress is over x

Bec - You must be so excited inside. Hoping your queasiness is real - strange thing to wish on someone - but u know what I mean.

Keli - hope you are doing well x

Saffy - you sound brave!

AFM Back to work today. Boo! AF has arrived but so slowly so don't know if it's still day 1 or day 2. It's all so confusing sometimes.
Is it normal for me to have such low progesterone levels one month (5) and fairly high (42) the month before?
Think I'm having a bit of a down day. And I felt like a rotten human being today - my stage partner (and really good friend) is 16 weeks pregnant and she seems to have blossomed over the last 2 week holiday. And one of the other teachers came in with his laptop to show us his beautiful 2 week old baby girl. I am truly delighted for both, but I did feel a tinge of jealousy. That's not right.
Anyway, putting it down to just about to jump on the clomid rollercoaster!
Sorry for moaning!
Claudette

[linda5]

Sorry Linda, the abreviations can be quite confussing at first. I was asking how many "Days Past Ovulation" you are? Fingers crossed AF does not show!

It ok i started my period today the 19 of april.I just have to call the nurse and tell her when i started my period so they can make me a calendar of when to start my clomid pills and when to start the ovulation kit.Which is day 10 the doctor wanted me to start testing. He up the dose to 100 mg this month.im kind of nervous ,taking the chance of having twins.The higher the dose.I start taking the clomid this wed which will be my 3rd day in my cycle till day 7 of my cycle . crossing my fingers again it works this month.I wasent sure if it was true to have intercourse every other day after you get a + on the ovulation kit.My doctor said to have intercourse the day after i get a postive the next day. Has anyones doctor told them that,or should we have intercourse the day i get the postive on the ovulation? it just frustrating when you have been trying so long to convice and it feel like the medicine not working.Maybe with a stronge dose i might get lucky this month. thank you all of you for being so supportive.

[Saffy]

Clamgee- I love scotland, actually concieved one of my pregnancies there, have a lot of good memories from my travels...sorry you feel you miss out, we get to wake up and read your emails though! Don't feel bad about a tinge of jealousy- I get a roaring tidal wave of jealousy/bitterness/envy/hatred whenever anyone I know gets pregnant (exceptions for a few loved girlfriends, some of who had a hard journey too) I even cried when I heard Danni Minogue was pregnant! Its wrong, but I have resigned myself to feeling like this until I get my BFP. Then you get the guilts for being such a terrible person, I have taked it over with my counsellor, because I felt so bad about it. You sound like a lovely , kind person so don't be so hard on yourself, I heard someone say on another thread the situation we are in is whats terrible, not us. Sorry AF arrived, you count day1 as the first day of red blood, don't know if that helps xx

Linda-you can have intercourse any day from getting a positive result, you are most likely to ovulate (and concieve) in the 24-36 hours after the +, I always try to do it every day when I get a + OPK but every second day would be ok. Go for it! Good luck x

I'm still waiting for AF, still spotting, so with my body, I woke up at midnight last night just after I'd fallen asleep and cried for an hour thinking about everything, I even accidently woke DH up now he is stressed about me crying all the time, I don't want him to be burdened with my moods, poor guy. Oh well, I will feel better when AF arrives and I can start my clomid again, am thinking of throwing in the towel soon and starting IVF, will talk it over with DH this week, i think its inevitable.

[linda5]

Clamgee- I love scotland, actually concieved one of my pregnancies there, have a lot of good memories from my travels...sorry you feel you miss out, we get to wake up and read your emails though! Don't feel bad about a tinge of jealousy- I get a roaring tidal wave of jealousy/bitterness/envy/hatred whenever anyone I know gets pregnant (exceptions for a few loved girlfriends, some of who had a hard journey too) I even cried when I heard Danni Minogue was pregnant! Its wrong, but I have resigned myself to feeling like this until I get my BFP. Then you get the guilts for being such a terrible person, I have taked it over with my counsellor, because I felt so bad about it. You sound like a lovely , kind person so don't be so hard on yourself, I heard someone say on another thread the situation we are in is whats terrible, not us. Sorry AF arrived, you count day1 as the first day of red blood, don't know if that helps xx

Linda-you can have intercourse any day from getting a positive result, you are most likely to ovulate (and concieve) in the 24-36 hours after the +, I always try to do it every day when I get a + OPK but every second day would be ok. Go for it! Good luck x

I'm still waiting for AF, still spotting, so with my body, I woke up at midnight last night just after I'd fallen asleep and cried for an hour thinking about everything, I even accidently woke DH up now he is stressed about me crying all the time, I don't want him to be burdened with my moods, poor guy. Oh well, I will feel better when AF arrives and I can start my clomid again, am thinking of throwing in the towel soon and starting IVF, will talk it over with DH this week, i think its inevitable.

Thank you so much for the good advice.I will try it the next day after the postive and see if that works every other day.Wish me luck.Im so glad i found this wed site there so many people that are going through the same thing trying to concive and it does get a little frustrating and upset sometime.Good thing i found people like all you to be supportive. thanks to all of you again.Wish me luck this month.

[Keli]

Morning all,

Hi Bec, I am now 5 weeks & 2days, so still very early but ms is ripe as so I’m pretty happy. Yey yey yey, can’t wait till next Tuesday for you, then you can come and join my other thread.

Saffy, have you been TTC for 5 years? Wow that is a long time. Yes IVF may be a good plan at this stage. Hope you’re feeling a little better this morning after letting some emotions out.

Claudette, don’t feel like a bad person for being jealous, it is such a natural reaction. You’re not asking for others not to fall PG you are just asking for you to fall PG, IYKWIM (if you know what I mean).

Linda, I was ALWAYS told to have intercourse every second day once I got a positive OPK, but the one month we ignored the professionals and DTD everyday was the month we finally conceived, and I have heard of this happening quite a lot. Totally up to you but just thought I would give my 2 cents worth.

Hello to everyone else. GL to all this month, can’t wait to read some more BFP’s, I will be lurking!

[Saffy]

Hi Keli,
No haven't been TTC for 5 years thank god! I would be in an asylum by now. My DH and I haven't been together for very long but due to our age started trying at the start of last year, got preg straight away and m/c, now it has been 16mths.Sometimes I feel if I had never gotton preg in the first case we probably would have gotton help earlier and have a baby by now but I stubbornly thought i could do it myself!! Crazy I know!!
Thanks for your thoughts xx
I went for a walk this morning and AF turned up thank god, can start afresh now nad yea I feel better thanks!

5 wks and 2 days is hard isn't it? You feel like each day is a lifetime, if you have good ms it sounds promising!

[RhiChiChi]

Hey all,

Sorry I didn't have a chance to come back on yesterday.

Tammara - So happy for you hun! I'm sure you & DH were a wreck prior to going in for your scan. Sending you tons of sticky vibes and growing dust for bubs.

Porsche - I didn't take Vitex long enough to notice any change, but I have been told not to take it whilst taking Clomid, so there must be a similarity in the two or something like that? Dunno! Maybe I should do the 'right thing' and take it...hmmm undecided now! lol

Claudette - Sorry to hear you are still bleeding, I hope it settles down soon for you.
I feel like that sometimes too, even when I wasn't on Clomid, it's just worse now on Clomid :S

Keli - Yay for m/s - well not really but YKWIM?!

Linda - Best of luck for this cycle. I've only ever shown to O on the lowest dose of Clomid, so not sure why the difference between the cycles? I was told to BD every second day from CD 10 to CD 21. It didn't work but I think there is something else going on 'down there' for me. Please stay positive!

Bec - Best of luck hun. Sounds like AF won't be showing up for at least 9 months - woo hoo!

[Porsche]

Clamgee- I love scotland, actually concieved one of my pregnancies there, have a lot of good memories from my travels...sorry you feel you miss out, we get to wake up and read your emails though! Don't feel bad about a tinge of jealousy- I get a roaring tidal wave of jealousy/bitterness/envy/hatred whenever anyone I know gets pregnant (exceptions for a few loved girlfriends, some of who had a hard journey too) I even cried when I heard Danni Minogue was pregnant! Its wrong, but I have resigned myself to feeling like this until I get my BFP. Then you get the guilts for being such a terrible person, I have taked it over with my counsellor, because I felt so bad about it. You sound like a lovely , kind person so don't be so hard on yourself, I heard someone say on another thread the situation we are in is whats terrible, not us. Sorry AF arrived, you count day1 as the first day of red blood, don't know if that helps xx

I'm still waiting for AF, still spotting, so with my body, I woke up at midnight last night just after I'd fallen asleep and cried for an hour thinking about everything, I even accidently woke DH up now he is stressed about me crying all the time, I don't want him to be burdened with my moods, poor guy. Oh well, I will feel better when AF arrives and I can start my clomid again, am thinking of throwing in the towel soon and starting IVF, will talk it over with DH this week, i think its inevitable.

Oh Saffy I feel the exact same way today. I'm actually having a moment right now. DH was being an ass last night and also again this morning about me being moody. I know I'm a moody person but he doesn't help the fact that he just annoys me all the time. He's always putting his hands on or in my face always smaking me because he says I've been naughty. Look I know it's in a loving way but when I am moody I snap at him and I'm mean to him.

I know I'm doing this stuff and I really can't help it. I know I'm being mean and moody I don't want to be like that but I really don't know how to stop. I do this stuff before I even think. I feel like such a terrible person because he so doesn't deserve it. He really is very good to me and that's how I behave.

DH goes away in July for about 6-7 weeks. That is really going to dissrupt out TTC chances. Do we even bother to try before or do we wait until he is back. I'm really having doubts today. I'm doing the why me's, it's not fair etc....

I don't want to stop trying. We came sooo close only to fail. I never ever thought I would have a MC. Those things happen to other people not to yourself. And I know logically it was nothing that I did that caused it but you just can't help but think was I not happy enough that I was pregnant, maybe I should have lost this extra 6kgs I've put on.

I thought about writting DH a letter I'm better at expressing myself in writting. I really have no one but you guys to talk to about this stuff. I feel a bit isolated. I did have a best friend but we had a falling out about 9 months ago and I haven't spoken to her since. I have never had heaps of friends well not ones that are close. So I really am in it on my own so to speak.

Any way as I said just having a moment. I'll get over it. It's onwards and upwards from here.

Clamgee - I wouldn't worry about feeling the way you do. I feel exactly the same at the moment.

[linda5]

Morning all,

Hi Bec, I am now 5 weeks & 2days, so still very early but ms is ripe as so I’m pretty happy. Yey yey yey, can’t wait till next Tuesday for you, then you can come and join my other thread.

Saffy, have you been TTC for 5 years? Wow that is a long time. Yes IVF may be a good plan at this stage. Hope you’re feeling a little better this morning after letting some emotions out.

Claudette, don’t feel like a bad person for being jealous, it is such a natural reaction. You’re not asking for others not to fall PG you are just asking for you to fall PG, IYKWIM (if you know what I mean).

Linda, I was ALWAYS told to have intercourse every second day once I got a positive OPK, but the one month we ignored the professionals and DTD everyday was the month we finally conceived, and I have heard of this happening quite a lot. Totally up to you but just thought I would give my 2 cents worth.

Hello to everyone else. GL to all this month, can’t wait to read some more BFP’s, I will be lurking!

Hello we tryed that last month and when i got a+ and it didnt work for me.Thank you for the advice will think about trying that again that way.Have you heared of anyone conciving on trying it every other day? Does it really help to lay down for 15 mins after intercourse with a pillow under your hips or its that does a wise tale.? thank you .

[linda5]

Hey all,

Sorry I didn't have a chance to come back on yesterday.

Tammara - So happy for you hun! I'm sure you & DH were a wreck prior to going in for your scan. Sending you tons of sticky vibes and growing dust for bubs.

Porsche - I didn't take Vitex long enough to notice any change, but I have been told not to take it whilst taking Clomid, so there must be a similarity in the two or something like that? Dunno! Maybe I should do the 'right thing' and take it...hmmm undecided now! lol

Claudette - Sorry to hear you are still bleeding, I hope it settles down soon for you.
I feel like that sometimes too, even when I wasn't on Clomid, it's just worse now on Clomid :S

Keli - Yay for m/s - well not really but YKWIM?!

Linda - Best of luck for this cycle. I've only ever shown to O on the lowest dose of Clomid, so not sure why the difference between the cycles? I was told to BD every second day from CD 10 to CD 21. It didn't work but I think there is something else going on 'down there' for me. Please stay positive!

Bec - Best of luck hun. Sounds like AF won't be showing up for at least 9 months - woo hoo!

Thank you for the advice. i was on clomid a long time ago but i have a different doctor now .He does things different.I used to take the clomid days 5-9 but now the doctor said to take it on days 3-7.Does it really matter what days you take the clomid on.I seem to have gotten pregant on the days i took the clomid 5-9 and my old doctor told us once we got a + on the ovulation kit to have intercourse for 3 days in a row.So thats why i was confused using the clomid this time on days 3-9? And they way the doctor said to have intercourse every other day after the + ovulation kit.Thought it was werid but we tryed it and it didnt work this month. crossing my fingers and hopeing for alot of baby dust and prayers !thanks

[becnxavi]

Hi Girls,
Oh Porsche, I just want to give you a hug! I think you have every right to feel a bit pee'd off with the world, and you need to work through it in your own time. I'm sure that everyone here has felt a bit the same as you at some stage, I'm sometimes horrible to DH for months on end, becasue I just feel so dissapointed that I can't get UTD and that I have no control over it. Have you thought about getting in contact with your old BF? I know what you mean about having no one to talk to: my BF is not even contemplating having kids, she hates kids, so I can't even mention things to her without a very clinical unhelpful response. My sis is great though, even though she doesn't really understand, she listens and nods at the appropriate times!

Just a quick update on me: I think things are going well. My boobs are sore, like achy and I am definately nauseous(sp?) at times. I have funny little twinges in my tummy, like the pain when you stretch too far. I'm just terrified everytime I go to the loo; I close my eyes and peek to see if AF has arrived! I guess I can officially say I am 4 weeks UTD, but will I get to 5? I'm heading to GP on Thursday for BT to see how the levels are.

Sorry for the rambly post!
Bec

[tammara]

I think it is perfectly normal to have all the emotions your feeling least of all the jelousy.

I think im going blind, i know i read a post (maybe from saffy) about going onto IVF. Just to let you know that there is a step before IVF, its called IUI - basicly the same as ivf but instead of taking your eggs out and fertalising them they just insert hubbys sperm directly into you. But if you have any questions about IVF im no expert but would be happy to try and answe any questions you have. My advise would be to make an appointment asap even just to have a chat. I went through Dr Mac Talbot and found him wonderful and his nurse is awesome too.

Time to get my self to bed now. Night

[RhiChiChi]

Oh Saffy I feel the exact same way today. I'm actually having a moment right now. DH was being an ass last night and also again this morning about me being moody. I know I'm a moody person but he doesn't help the fact that he just annoys me all the time. He's always putting his hands on or in my face always smaking me because he says I've been naughty. Look I know it's in a loving way but when I am moody I snap at him and I'm mean to him.

I know I'm doing this stuff and I really can't help it. I know I'm being mean and moody I don't want to be like that but I really don't know how to stop. I do this stuff before I even think. I feel like such a terrible person because he so doesn't deserve it. He really is very good to me and that's how I behave.

DH goes away in July for about 6-7 weeks. That is really going to dissrupt out TTC chances. Do we even bother to try before or do we wait until he is back. I'm really having doubts today. I'm doing the why me's, it's not fair etc....

I don't want to stop trying. We came sooo close only to fail. I never ever thought I would have a MC. Those things happen to other people not to yourself. And I know logically it was nothing that I did that caused it but you just can't help but think was I not happy enough that I was pregnant, maybe I should have lost this extra 6kgs I've put on.

I thought about writting DH a letter I'm better at expressing myself in writting. I really have no one but you guys to talk to about this stuff. I feel a bit isolated. I did have a best friend but we had a falling out about 9 months ago and I haven't spoken to her since. I have never had heaps of friends well not ones that are close. So I really am in it on my own so to speak.

Any way as I said just having a moment. I'll get over it. It's onwards and upwards from here.

Clamgee - I wouldn't worry about feeling the way you do. I feel exactly the same at the moment.

Hey hun, just want to you know that I have been where you have been & sometimes still go there. Just wanted to offer my support & huge hugs. x

[Saffy]

Tammara- thanks hon, it was me that said that, I might make an appt and go and ask about it, he (FS) wanted me to rush straight into IVF but I have taken a step back and we are giving clomid a few months to work. Thanks for your advice, I hope everything is still good with you? xx

Porsche- hope you are feeling better today? Have you considered talking to a counsellor? If you go to your gp and get a referral and mental health plan you get 12 sessions rebatable from medicare ( I pay $110 and get $70 back). I am not the type of person who is keen on counselling but my sister is a counsellor and forced me last year when I was really struggling and a bit of a mess, it is worthwwhile you can tell them anything and they are very supportive and helpful. Otherwise do you have sisters/aunties/mother you can talk to? You shouldn't face it alone and men sometimes don't/can't understand as much as women. Hugs to you xx

Good news Bec! Hope the symptoms keep getting stronger,its sounds great to me!

[linda5]

Hey all,

Sorry I didn't have a chance to come back on yesterday.

Tammara - So happy for you hun! I'm sure you & DH were a wreck prior to going in for your scan. Sending you tons of sticky vibes and growing dust for bubs.

Porsche - I didn't take Vitex long enough to notice any change, but I have been told not to take it whilst taking Clomid, so there must be a similarity in the two or something like that? Dunno! Maybe I should do the 'right thing' and take it...hmmm undecided now! lol

Claudette - Sorry to hear you are still bleeding, I hope it settles down soon for you.
I feel like that sometimes too, even when I wasn't on Clomid, it's just worse now on Clomid :S
Hello everyone, my doctor is going to do the testing on the 21 day.Yesterday when i talked to the nurse she said she was going to ask the doctor. I start my second round of cloimd 100 mg.Im kind of nervous i heard there s a high chance of conciving twins.?Any one here had twins using the clomid.Wish me luck this month. Baby Dust to everyone.I will pray for all of you to have your baby soon. thank
Keli - Yay for m/s - well not really but YKWIM?!

Linda - Best of luck for this cycle. I've only ever shown to O on the lowest dose of Clomid, so not sure why the difference between the cycles? I was told to BD every second day from CD 10 to CD 21. It didn't work but I think there is something else going on 'down there' for me. Please stay positive!

Bec - Best of luck hun. Sounds like AF won't be showing up for at least 9 months - woo hoo!

[linda5]

I finally got the nurse to test me on the 21 day.I dont know why they didnt want too. Im taking on clomid 100 mg.Im kind of nervous i heared it can cause you to have twins.Thats scary.Has anyone been on clomid and only concived 1 baby or had had twins. I start my clomid tomarrow the 21 and then wait till the 10 th day to start testing. thank linda

[Elocin]

** sneaking in from another TTC thread **

girls!

I thought I would stick my head in to ask some advice... I'm on my 2nd cycle of 50mg Clomid (first time I took it from CD5-9, this cycle from CD2-6).

First time round I didn't really experience any symptoms - only some hot flushes every now and then - I ovulated on CD17 which is the earliest I've ever ovulated in a cycle in 12 months.

As of today (I'm CD4 and taken 2 tablets) I'm feeling dizzy, nauseous, shaky... has anyone else had these type of symptoms? Please tell me this is normal............

Thanks girls!!!



** sneaks back out again **

[Oorki Galoorki]

i have decided if we dont catch an egg on this cycle i wont be going again.. i have been on 100mg of clomid and it has turned me in to a raging biatch! im not willing to put my marriage on the line... so we will just go back to hoping and praying that we can pick O if and when i do..

Elocin no i havent had those symptoms but i have had LOTS of hot flushes...