LT TTC & taking Clomid/Metformin #3

[Hope!]

Pumpgirl, I feel for you. It is such a hard and emotional time. Clomid effects us all in so many different ways. I think sometimes our DH dont understand as it is not there body dealing with it. Hang in there, it wont last forever.

HUGE HUGS to you.

[lilminion]

Oh Pumpgirl I do simpathise with you, hopefully you are feeling much better today and DH is more supportive. Sometimes they just don't understand what is going on and really I don't think they ever will. Yesturday I felt myself getting anoyed very easily, but I was able to walk away and I think he actually got the hint most of the time. FX'd that you don't have to go through it again and you get a BFP.

Bec that is so lovely what your sister has offered. My sis-in-law has offered once before that she would be a surrogate for us. I don;t know how serious she was as it was when we were only starting to TTC, but I remember how nice it was when she said it. Hopefully you have o'd over the weekend and have a fantastic weekend away with DH.

Shan I'm hoping you have started AF when writting this, I know what you mean about it not showing, I don't get my periods at all and have to take provera to get them, and even with it, it takes a while for AF to start. When talking with my FS about PCOS he said that family history/ genetics has alot to do with it. He also said that it is mostly pasted down from the males, but they never know they have it as the simptoms aren't that unusual in men (they don't get AF, extra hair, wight gain, etc)

I don't know much about my family history as my extended family keep that stuff private. My sister has just had her first child through IVF, but they had no medical reason for not being able to concieve. It's only just come out since my sister having issues that my family has had a few fertility problems, both my aunty and cousin on dad's side have PCOS and it took quite a few years for my cousin to concieve (as they couldn't afford IVF), her sister my other cousin had had to go through IUI for both of her kids and she again has no medical reason for not falling PG. And my Nanna ( dad's side again had issues with fertility and had a few m/c's. So i do believe that PCOS is genetic related.

anyway AFM I'm on CD11 and DTD every second day (sorry TMI), nothing else to report other than being easily irritated yesturday and having crazy arse dreams. DH has been nice though and I slept in till 8:30 sat morning and 9 this morning which was good.

Lots of babydust to all and hope everyone has had a great weekend.

[Porsche]

Hi Ladies

I've missed heaps. There is way too much to go bck through and check up. So hope all is well!

Keli - I'm 99.99% positive I'm NOT UTD. I so wish it were the case it would save all of this IVF stuff. The BCP, the sniffing I'm currently doing amd the injections which I'm soo looking forward to. I'll be testing tomorow anyway just for giggles but I already know what the result is. I'm not that lucky.

[Keli]

Afternoon Ladies,

Wow, thanks to everyone for sharing their family history stories, really interesting to see how difficulty TTC seems to be genetic. I’ll let you all know how my sister goes too. She is back from her 3 month honeymoon in 2 weeks and then she will be seriously TTC (as opposed to not seriously).

Miss Kris, poo for getting hot flushes, I always got them straight away though, it was my mood swings that took a few weeks t eventuate. Hope it’s all backed off for you though hun.

Bec, yey for you and drinking too much tequila, it is totally needed sometimes to let loose when TTC, we managed to let ourselves get so wound up in it all we forget how to live, so yey for you! Hey check out this site Adenomyosis - An Internal Uterine Endometriosis for info on adenomyosis, I found it quite informative, hope it helps hun.

ShanShan, I hope AF has finally arrived for you so you can start the wonderful Clomid.

Pumpgirl, oh dear, sounds like you had a great fight. Sorry to hear that damn Clomid is making you into a Psycho lady, just remember that it’s not you, its just the drugs. Unfortunately my DH never got it either, he always thought it was something I could control, but I swear you can’t. Hope you’re feeling better today love and hopefully your DH will try to be a little more understanding in the future. PS: If you don’t feel like going (I cant understand why you don’t want to go and spend an entire weekend with a bunch of girls you don’t know) don’t go, seriously you will have an awful time if you’re not up for it, and honestly she wont even miss you, IYKWIM no offence. Ummm what was with ripping up the newspapers, does he read them? Lol?

Tammara, yey thanks for popping in, I’m always wondering how you are. Lol for baby being shy, I always think that is funny when ppl want to know the sex but can’t get bubs to co-operate. You must be 25weeks at least by now, yeah?

Liz, wow that is really interesting about it being passed on by the males, I’ve never heard that before. Yes cheeky little buggers don’t get the symptoms like we do. Have fun DTD, as much as possible anyway 

Porsche, are you positive? Did you test? I’m still crossing everything for you.

Mez, update please if you are out there?

[tammara]

no not quite 25 weeks keli, on my calendar i am just over 22 weeks but last ultrasound said baby is at 22 weeks 4 days (a week more) so im hoping my dates are wrong and not hubbys prediction of a 9 pound 8 baby!

Hope all goes well with the ivf porsche, not sure if you hvave started it or not but i honestly found the nasil spray 10 times worse than the needle. You will find the right spot to inject yourself

How are you doing keli?

[Porsche]

Hi Ladies

Keli - Yes Yes I tested this morning and like I thought BFN! Doesn't matter though because i knew it was a neg even before I tested.

Hi Tammara I wondered where you had gotten to. Yes we have started IVF. I'm currently on my 10th day of BCP and my 3rd day of sniffing. I stop BCP on Saturday and hopefully AF comes bags in hands so we can start injections..
Time flies doesn't it. I would have been about 22 weeks as well . Ahh well my time is coming soon I hope. Hope that bub moves so you can see the sex lol. I'm terrible at surprises.

[Keli]

Hey Tammara, Oh I was close, well kind of. Yey 22 weeks how exciting, you must be really showing by now! Yes I too hope that you are right and not your hubby, why is it that they want us to go through more pain lol. Funny sorry, A guy at work’s wife had their bub last week, she was 6 weeks prem and 7 pound 4, imagine if she went to full term, oh my, she would’ve been a little budda! Glad it’s all going well hun.

AFM: I’m 16weeks now and all’s going well, still got some ms but it’s loads better than it was, only spewing 2-3 times a day now, not like the 10-12 I was at, fun fun! Getting lots of movement from bubs now also and DH can feel it which is wonderful. Starting to show a little bit, I just think I look fat but everyone else (except DH) says that I look pg. Please keep us all updated on your progress, you had such a hard time getting to where you’re at and you deserve this little H&H bubs as much as anybody else in here!

Porsche, oh hun I’m so sorry, I was desperately hoping that you were wrong (IYKWIM). Hurry up AF then, still so exciting that you have already started IVF, once you decide to start it is so quick, it’s great. GL hun, KUP.

Sending you all lots & lots & lots & lots & lots of BFP vibes, this thread is WAY overdue!

[miss kris]

Hi ladies,
I hope that all is well with everyone!!

Keli- Glad to hear the MS has died down!

Poshce - i didn't understand any of that IVF talk lol but i am sending you BIG HUGS!

Everyone Else - Baby dust and Sticky Vibes!

AFM - I took my last clomid. DH said i thrashed about in my sleep and was hot, im usually a very cold sleeper. I do know i had vivid dreams, but not what about ... which is unusual for me as well. I know what you all mean about the mood swings though! I just couldn't seem to control my temper and was very quick to snap!! Poor DH! Its his bday on wednesday so i will have to be extra nice!! Lol!
Now i play the waiting game ... hopelessley peeing on OPK tests lol Oh Joy!

[becnxavi]

Hi guys!
Tammara- Great to hear from you! Glad all is going well, and hopefully you get to find out what you're having if you want to. I'm hopeless at waiting when I know I can know IYKWIM!

Porsche- Sorry about the BFN, but I'm glad things are moving with the IVF. Hopefully AF is prompt and doesn't make you wait! FIngers crossed round 1 will do the trick!

Liz- any sign of o yet? hope you catch that egg!

Keli- I can't believe you are still throwing up! You poor thing! I hate throwing up! How exciting that DH can feel the baby move, that's awesome.

Pumpgirl- you poor thing! I hope you are feeling a bit better today. Unfortunately it's the one SE we can't so anything about! It's such a journey this TTC thing, and once you throw in clomid as well, it can be darn right ridiculous! Stay strong hon, and just keep your eyes on the prize. Guys just don't understand how much our hormones can throw us off balance, and I know my DH is great at picking the worst times to niggle at me! It's like they sense when you are most on edge and just push us that bit too far. All the pain, the arguments, the tears, the anxiety has to get us the end of this journey and we will all hold that beautiful bundle sooner or later. Hugs for you and know that we are here to help whenever you need us.

Miss Kris- Glad you've finished the clomid! Hopefully you o quickly, theres nothing worse than waiting for ages! Enjoy DH's birthday!

Hope- hope things are going well, where are you in your cycle now?

Clamgee- hope you're thoroughly enjoying your sunny get away!

AFM: well, we're back from our romantic weekend away and we had a lovely time! I didn't o though, but I should in the next few days, and we got a good headstart . I had a big talk to DH about IVF and what it would entail and whether or not he was ready for that. He said it's mostly about me, but I was trying to get across the point that we would be in this together, he would have to come along to appointments with me, and be aware that I may or may not be an emotional wreck much of the time! He said he was used to me on clomid so what's the difference!! He was really good about it though, and he sdidn't even sook about the money. It was good to have the time to discuss it all, and our fears etc. Now, I just hope that we get UTD this month and I don't need to worry about all things IVF!

Have a good one girls!
Bec

[tammara]

One good thing about the money side of the IVF is you reach your medicare gap thing right away so you get the savings when you get UTD - for example today i got my refund for ultrasound that cost $145, normally i would have gotten $85 but i got $133. It deffinately doesnt make up for what you spend but it does help a bit.

Hopefully the ladies doing or about to do IVF get lucky and go first round i will have all my fingers and toes crossed for you. I found that my mood swings were minimal with the injections and nasil spray. As for your hubby bec i think its a man thing to think its up to the woman because they have to do the hard work - and really we do get the short end of things. My advice for you ladies is expect the unexpected lol my worst emtion was that hubby didnt care as much as i did just because he didnt go through the hard yards but he really did.

I think i have said it but if anyone needs any advice ask out i will try and answer any question

take care ladies xxoo now i have the tread emails i will pop in more

[Hope!]

Bec: Hi. I am at cd 22 today. I am booked in for my Lap on Fri 16th which will be cd 33 if AF doesnt show before then. I am really worried about AF arriving just before lap and not being able to do it. This month and next month are just going to be really busy months for us and if I cant have the lap friday week I really dont know when I can do it. I was really hoping that I would be UTD before than but I'm not. DH and I havent been DTD either as I am still struggling with thrush. It went away and than came back a few days later (sorry TMI). I am totally over it. I dont understand why it is so bad, I'm assuming it might have something to do with being on 100mg of Clomid and than all of a sudden nothing.
So happy to hear that your weekend away went well and that you and DH had the opportunity to discuss everything and explain how you both feel about the next step. Hoping and praying that you will be UTD in no time at all now.

Tamara: Glad that everything is going well for you. That is such wonderful news.

Keli: You poor thing, still throwing up. I hope that the MS ends for you soon. That is very exciting about the baby moving and feeling it. YAY!!!

Miss Kris: GL with catching that egg this cycle. Lets hope this is the last Clomid cycle and that you are UTD by the end of it.

epayne: best of luck to you catching your egg. FX. It's so nice to have a sleep in isnt it.

Baby dust to you all and for those of you who are already UTD sticky vibes to you.

[Porsche]

Hi ladies,
I hope that all is well with everyone!!

Keli- Glad to hear the MS has died down!

Poshce - i didn't understand any of that IVF talk lol but i am sending you BIG HUGS!

Everyone Else - Baby dust and Sticky Vibes!

AFM - I took my last clomid. DH said i thrashed about in my sleep and was hot, im usually a very cold sleeper. I do know i had vivid dreams, but not what about ... which is unusual for me as well. I know what you all mean about the mood swings though! I just couldn't seem to control my temper and was very quick to snap!! Poor DH! Its his bday on wednesday so i will have to be extra nice!! Lol!
Now i play the waiting game ... hopelessley peeing on OPK tests lol Oh Joy!

lol Here's a few common ones for you

EPU = Egg Pick Up
BCP = Birth Control Pill
ET = Egg Transfer
PUPO = Pregnant until Proven Othrwise
Sniffing = Synarel nasal spray
Jabbing = injections
FET = Frozen Egg Transfer

I think that's all lol For now.

[Mez Moz]

Hi ladies, I've been keeping a regular wat h on this thread from afar, but thought I'd pop back in to say hi and wish everyone the best wherever they are on their TTC journey.
Keli, Tammara - good to hear we are all still travelling in our 2nd trimester. I'm 20 weeks, so stuck in between u two!
Bec - hoping u get UTD before IVF. We were only 2 cycles away from having to start, so I reckon that scared my eggs into getting caught! But the day before I got my BFP I was bawling my eyes out saying to DH that I didn't think I could cope with IVF. the next day they were tears of joy.
All the best ladies - hang in there! M x

[ShanShan]

Hi Everyone
Hope your weeks have started well.

Pumpgirl - Sorry to hear about the fight on the weekend. I know exactly how you feel. Our group of friends has been brought together mainly by the boys and us girls just got thrown together. Now I have made some great friendships out of this but I am also not as close to some of the other girls. DH needs to realise that it isn't just a hen's night out that you don't want to go to, but a whole weekend in another city with people you don't know very well. Add to that the hormone rollercoaster you are currently on adn it could end in disaster, maybe he needs to see it might be safer to avoid uncomfortable situations. I was also wondering if you back off on your exercise intensity during your TWW? As a fellow fitness professional I am curious? Hope everything sorts itself out and you get a BFP so you don't have to deal with Clomid moods.

Epayne - Interesting info about the males. Sneaky how the symptoms are all the things that aren't really out of the ordinary for blokes. Hope you had a great weekend and that the every 2nd day system works for you this month. We work on the same system which is easier to achieve in winter when DH isn't out baleing hay at night. GL with getting your BFP this cycle.

Porsche - Sorry to hear about the BFN, hopefully the IVF works and all the sniffing and jabbing will be worth it. FX'd (and toes) for a BFP soon.

Tammara and Mez Moz - It's great to hear about the positives in this whole process. Sometimes we all need reminding that we can get BFP out of this journey of drugs and mood swings. Hope the rest of your pregnancy's goes well and that bub reveals themselves soon Tammara (I am assuming that you do want to know).

Keli - I hope the MS eases up soon. I am hoping that I don't take after my mum on the pregnancy symptoms. She had MS with me for the whole pregnancy. Hopefully the dates are wrong and that DH prediction is very wrong. Although my midwife mother has always said that the bigger babies come out more easily,lol. My god son was 10 pound, and my friends now DH informed her that was normal for his family, as I told her you should find these things out before you get UTD, lol.

Miss Kris - Glad that you have finished your round of clomid. Look at the positive of the extra heat, at least it is winter ATM. GL on getting your BFP this cycle and hopefully the mood swings stay away for Wednesday.

Bec - Glad to hear that you had a lovely weekend away, pity you didn't O but at least you got a bit of "practice" in, lol. It's good that you got a chance to chat about the IVF option, hopefully you won't nered it. I am avoiding that discussion for a couple more months as I don't know whether DH will be on board. Will have to wait and see. Hope O happens soon for you. FX'd for your BFP!

Hope - Pity about the thrush, hopefully it clears up soon. Hope AF shows up soon so you don't have to worry about her showing up for your lap. Big Hug to you

RhiChiChi - How is being back at work going? Hope there hasn't been any stresses yet.

Sorry if I missed anyone. GL and FX'd to everyone for BFP soon.

AFM - Well AF finally arrived on Saturday, yay! Started my 1st round of clomid on Sunday and today I feel like I have been hit by a bus. Don't know if it is the clomid or the start of the flu but I am struggling. Only 7 1/2 more hours of work to go (I hate 10 1/2 hour days).

to all
Shan

[becnxavi]

Shan- 10.5 hour shifts!!! What the?? You poor love! I often feel flu-y with clomid, don't worry it goes away in a few days (well mine did). Glad AF finally arrived and that you o and next AF is 9 months from now!!!

Mez- Lovely to hear from you! 20 weeks, oh my gosh, it doesn't seem like that long! Glad all is gong well for you!

Hope- I have had problems with reoccuring thrush, which has now dissapeared! My advice, sleep without any pants on, change towels every day, and (it's gross I know) try natural yoghurt 'down there'. The natural cultures neutralise the yeast and fix it all up. I've never done it, but my sister swears by it. It's also totally safe in pregnancy etc. I've also taken those tablets which balance out the good and bad bacterier.. I can't remember the name of them...inner health plus? They are at the chemist in a little fridge near the counter. Have you tried the caniston type thing? The cream and the pessaries for three days? If I get really bad, they always get rid of it. HTH, I know how frustrating it is, especially when you need to be DTD every second day! I'm pretty sure you can still have lap if you have AF, I think they prefer it to be as close to AF as possible becasue then there is no chance you could be UTD. Maybe ring the doc and check?

Tammara- Thanks so mcuh for the info about the safety net, I wondered how that worked. I just passed the safety net (from the D&C probably) and I got a lot more back than I was expected. So if we have to do IVF, at least that's one positive, well that and the chance for a baby of course!

Pumpgirl- How are you? Have things settled down?

Porsche- thanks for the IVF lingo training! I wondered about some fo those. EPU always confused me...Hope you're well!

Hi to all you girls we haven't seen in a while. Hope you're ok!

AFM: Nothing new really. I looked after my 3 nephews today, plus my DS, and I don't think I could have 4 kids. Two 7 year olds, a 3 year old and my 15 month old nephew were a handful! The baby is lovely though, although he's going through a biting phase and everytime I said 'no' he howled at me! I'm such a mean aunty apparently! I was good practise though, I'd forgotten about the world of changing nappies, highchairs and bottles! My sister deserves a medal I think!
I have to ring my old FS and get my medical records released so I can take them to my new doctor, and I'm a bit nervous about it. I don't know whether I just ring reception or whther I need to speak to the doctor, which I don't want to do. Has anyone ever had to get their medical records from anywhere? Any advice?
ANyway, I best be off, I've got to ring and get some quotes for concreting our backyard! Finally getting rid of the mudpatch which has been there since we built the house 4 years ago!
Bye
Bec

[redgum]

Hi All,

Well I just wanted to start off with a huge big hug and thank you to all of you for your support. I haven't responded but have been checking in to see how everyone is doing and I really really appreciate everything you have said and shared. I really enjoy (not the right word!! but can't think of anything suitable) reading about your stories and how you are going it makes me feel like I am not alone and having not shared my journey with many it helps to know that you guys are all out there in cyber land so thank you :-) xx

So many replies and I really really hope I don't miss anyone:

ShanShan - I am so pleased that AF came and you can start your clomid journey, I hope it is smooth sailing for you and I agree with Bec you do feel a little "off" for the first few days but that bit passes. As for the training - I backed off last month and I wish I didn't as I put on a bit of weight (although all gone now thanks to my normal diet and exercise) so this month going as usual although will back off cardio in the last week I think (last week I taught 6 Body Pump classes, plus I did 1 6km run and attended 2 Body Attack classes). This week will aim to do the same cardio although am only doing 5 body pump classes and next week I am only going to do 4 BP classes. But, please bare in mind that I don't work full-time (I am at home trying to set up a business) so can get lots of rest in between I don't think i would continue doing that many if I had to pull in a 10.5 hour day (you poor thing!!) I remember the days when I worked at Mac Bank and that was a standard day but I wasn't taking clomid so I really feel for you hun! Best of luck and I really hope you get the BFP on the first round!

Bec - so pleased you had a nice weekend away - bummer about the o though! I am also pleased you got to have that chat. When I went to the Hunter I had a similar type chat with my DH, I think being away from home really helps you to let your guard down and really be open with how you are feeling and so much gets resolved when you are in a relaxing environment, FX now you have had that chat you will not have to put it into action as you will get the BFP this month ;-) I also wondered how much more psycho can you go on IVF, I hope no worse than clomid otherwise if I go down that path I fear I will need to be institutionalised before I can have a baby.

Porsche - I also wish you the best of luck for IVF, it is such a tough time, I have seen three of my closest loved ones go through this, it seems like a really hard journey, FX for the BFP after the first round!

Miss Kris - I feel for you on the sleeping front I am the same don't sleep well at all, I hope your hormones are in tact and you didn't go off the ricta scale like me ;-) I was thinking about your positive messages and I am going to do the same (but put them in envelopes and read them when I am angry or down). I did find going into the dark room and putting P!nk on helped me the other day!!

Epayne - I am with you on the two day cycle (DTD), at least that is one thing to look forward to about this whole TTC thing, although I hate the structure of it all :-( ahhhh well!

Hope! - Thanks for your hugs and yes I am glad it doesn't last forever cos I would loath to be me if that was the case...

I hope I haven't missed anyone??? If I have thank you for your messages and thoughts! Also a huge congrats the the ladies who are expecting - I hope for easy sailing for you!!!

AFM - CD 10 today, no major mood swings since Saturday (god that was out of control). I am keeping steady and busy. I think my training & teaching is helping. Although from memory CD 11 last month was my killer day so lets hope for sanity tomorrow ;-) Also one question to those of you with PCOS does the OPK work - mine never worked said I was ovulating all the time (which clearly wasn't true). I read the pack and it said that it doesn't work for those of us fortunate to be blessed with PCOS - just wondering if it did work for anyone... I am approaching with the 2 day rule anyway so we don't miss out (hopefully).

Anyway lovelies - thanks again for all your support and concern (I can't believe how much I have grown to rely on this forum in such a short period of time).

[miss kris]

just a quick question? How long after clomid did you girls find you O'd?
Its just yesterday i had pains in my ovaries and i OPK tested and there was a line but not a positive one ...
I am wondering if the OPKs don't work for me as i have done plenty before that were positive but i don't O ...
I don't have PCOS either. Mines classed as "Unexplained Infertility" ... aahh its a killer aint it ... not knowing! lol! Stupid doctors! :P jks

[Keli]

Afternoon all,

Miss Kris, GL testing for O, I did my tests at 2pm at work if that helps, was a little inconvenient but I work in an office with only 2 ladies so I just had a little box of my “Goodies” in the ladies so didn’t have to hind anything on my way to the toilet. Happy Birthday to your DH for today.

Hey Bec, any sign of O yet? All you ladies seem to be at a similar time in your cycle at the moment, that’s exciting. Hopefully I will get my wish of a massive influx of BFP’s. Wow 4 kids? You did well not to loose any of them. I’m pretty sure you can just call the receptionist for your medical records, you shouldn’t need to talk to the FS.

Tammara, that is a good side IVF, all those scan’s are expensive so that’s great that you get most of them back after all the money you have already spent. Hope bub cooperates for you and moves its legs, I think you’re having a girl though, not sure why but I just do.

Hope, yey for being booked in for your lap, next Friday that is so soon. GL hun. I have everything crossed that AF arrives very soon or very late for you, my AF arrived the day after my lap. Is there any chance you can call and see if they can fit you in any earlier? Maybe explain why? Poo to thrush, I am willing it away for you.

You’re all so sweet, sending me well wishes for the ms to go away, when in fact I am just praying that you all have ms within the next month (IYKWIM).

Mez, so nice to hear from you, wow 20weeks already, did you find out what you’re having? Or are you having a surprise? Glad to hear all is well hun.

ShanShan, glad to hear you’ve started Clomid, the waiting game is not fun. Fx fro you this month.

Pumpgirl, glad to hear you a feeling a little more normal, poor thing. Hopefully that was your one and only spit for the month. Yey for Pink helping you out. Yeah I had no drama using OPK’s, remember the lines have to be the same colour, not just visible. It’s really hard to tell the difference sometimes though.