crafty, I would go and buy the first respons early detector....as I was using the cheap internet ones and thay gave me a false negative and like sunbeam the first response early detector gave me a positive result mid afternoon....good luck tomorrow will be thinking of you
My SIL wants to call me tonight...oh ****, I know what they are ringing for. How can anyone get pg on IVF on their first (aged 44) AND second (aged 45) go? I don't think that even counts as IVF frankly.
I don't want to talk to them. I don't want to know
I really, honestly, can't deal with it. I just can't. Can someone please give me some strategies to deal with the call so I can be a loving sister and not the ogre I feel like right now
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Oh and Crafty, good luck tomorrow xx
Last edited by Alice; June 16th, 2010 at 11:05 PM.
: embarassing level of self-pity! It's all I can do to stop myself from deleting the whole post!!
Alice I am so sorry your having a hard time dealing with you SIL and I guess you may be right about the news the best advice I can offer is to write down on a piece of paper exactly how you feel all the swear words the works and read it out loud a few times and get it out you system, then when the phone rings you can say the nice things you know you should say !!! I know its really hard as I myself had to listen to my son tell me his new wife was UTD after trying for 2 months and I had mc 6 mnths earlier. But I was glad for them and had to tell myself they will be happy for me when I eventually get pg again in the future!! So Alice be strong take a deep breath and be calm and look on the bright side she is older than you and you have just as much chance of getting it right 1st time when you go for your IVF next month !!! after all your hard work and your chinese meds your turn will come !
Thanks Iona I am not even going to bother testing if they want to test tomorow then they can but I am only 9-10 DPO so not really in with a chance anyway even though my boobs feel sore today and I keep feeling nauseas think its just nerves I have been reading up all afternoon on fertility of women age 45 and its not good think I am wasting my money tomorow stupid old fool that I am !
Alice - I really have no advise on how to take that phone call. I bet your heart is beating at a million times a minute. What an extremely difficult thing to do. All the best.
Oh Crafty your not a silly old fool. If you are then we all are.
You'll never guess what I just got ........... I just got a + OPK! It's CD26 for god sake! So that means I'm going to O on CD28. God what a loooooooong cycle this is. I'm going to O when most get their AF!!! I was only peeing on a stick because I have about 30 of the buggers. I hopped in the shower with DH and when we got out I got the shock of my life. And no ladies there was no hanky panky in the shower lol. We'll do that tonight
Last edited by Porsche; June 16th, 2010 at 06:27 PM.
Sunbeam thats wonderful news! Congratulations! Praying everything goes perfectly for you for a happy & healthy 9 mths!
Thanks all for the warm welcome to this thread! Yeh was getting very disheartened being in there for so long and so many popping in briefly, getting a bfp and leaving... was hard! Feels much more comfy in here cause you all understand thats its not just the loss thats hard, but the wait to get a bfp again is just as torturous!
Sunbeam, sorry to have posted a grumpy post right after your happy news. I hope you and DD are celebrating tonight!!
Crafty, thanks for your advice - I remember you going through that with your son. I ended up emailing her back that I would be out for the night and would ring in a few days when I can get my head around it. Like Porsche said, you are so not an old silly fool so don't go in there with that going through your head. And just because I'm feeling upset about my SIL doesn't mean I don't hope you get UTD first time with IVF at 45!
Well AF has decided to grace me with her presence so I'm going to go to bed.
Night all x
Sorry Porsche - that's great you are about to 'o' - get to it!!
Sunbeam-woohoo! i am so happy for you now lets hope this little bugger sticks but what i want to know is HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT when donnor daddy had such a low sperm count you have something going on some secret so come on share! lol just kidding.
HI lovely ladies, I am still lurking and trying to catch up when I can, haven't had the time to post but will try and be more regular!
Firstly-to Sunbeam ( I know you don't know me but I have been a lurker in the threads since last year and have seen what a difficult journey you have had), even though its early it must be strong to show up like that, sticky vibes to you xx
Alice- there is no way I could have taken that phone call and I would be putting it off for months, maybe ask her to email you? I'm a wimp, hope you manage it, I have no advice sorry!! xxx
Craftymummy- good luck with your appt today, hope your FS is nice and supportive
Ferrals-hope the peeing is a symptom of something good! When are you doing IVF?
Porsche- thats a long cycle alright but at leat you are still in with a chance, and haven't missed it. I hope this is a lucky month for you, it is depressing seeing so many people get bfps and we are all still waiting but we will get there! xx
T=Hopes- nice to see you again! Hope it is a short stay in here xx
Ionamacca- hey beautiful, I see in the other thread you are UTD!!! CONGRATULATIONS to you sweetie, what a nice surprise, wishing you a h&h pregnancy xxx
Possum- welcome to you , what a patient person you must be to wait a year, hope everything is sorted out now and you are on your way to a bfp xxx
Hi to everyone else sorry if I missed you but its hard to catch up, especial hugs to murrycod and her little codlet,
AFM- well FINALLY got some action with IVF, going to counselling next week then FS appt a few days after that so I can go on BCP that week and looking at IVF cycle in August. It sounds like a million years away but I an so happy to at last have something locked in. Can't still believe I have to do IVF but if thats what it takes! Also happy about my AF it has been much less painful and heavy recently with less spotting beforehand so I am thinking that muight be the acupuncture influence.
Also I turned 38 last a week ago so might just leave my signature at 37 for a little while longer so I feel younger hehe!
Possum, I'm sorry in all the excitement of Sunbeams news and my little hissy-fit yesterday, I missed welcoming you in here! Welcome!! I haven't heard of Graves Disease before but from what you wrote it sounds like it can be treated, is that right? A whole year must have been a hard wait and hopefully you won't need IVF but if you do, wishing you all the best with it. If you've been lurking then you know what a lovely bunch of women are in here - we've all been through a lot and everyone just understands how hard things can be so hope you find lots of support here.
Saffy! I wondered where you had gone! You've been MIA for a while now - glad to have you back and same as what I've just said to Possum, welcome and hope you feel supported here, I know I do! August will be here before you know it! None of us want to go down the IVF route if we can help it but it without it we'd be having quite a few less miracles so keep positive, it's not so bad once you start and I always get excited at the beginning because it means I might bring a baby home one day (no other way for me) and I hope it will mean that for you too! Yeah, I think a year waiting for that call would be good but after getting all worked up about it I just want them to be happy and new niece or nephew for me is only a good thing so I'll call Monday. I guess I'm a bit more mentally prepared now, thanks for understanding!
MurryCod - how are you doing?????????????????? We miss you in here x
Last edited by onthefly; June 17th, 2010 at 01:00 PM.
I thought it was time for to post instead of just reading.
Sunbeam - I'm so happy for you and it's about time we had some good news in this thread. I always check my DH's bottle of menevit to make sure it's going down.
Alice - It doesn't get any easier does it. I have a friend that got pregnant around the same time as me and we haven't seen each other for a while. I've been too scared to ring her in case she tells me she's pregnant with her second. Another friend got pg her first time with IVF and it was in between my two failed cycles. She's about to give birth in 2 weeks.
Porsche - yay finally and opt +. Good luck catching the egg.
Welcome all the new people. Possums you're journey really touched my heart and I hope this ttc is fast and easy for you.
The 2WW is going a lot faster for me this month and I'm 3 days away from AF arriving this Sunday. I've been having the odd cramp and back pain on the left side as well as tingling boobs. It's strange because I never used to get any preAF symptoms until my IVF cycles with the Crinone and then the cycle were I was pg they came after AF was late. Now since the mc I get all the symptoms in the 2ww so I can't use them to detemine if I'm UTD. I've decided I'm not going to test until I'm very late, at least 5 days.
I had a look in the pg after loss thread to see how murraycod and Kitfaerie are doing. I hope we're all in there soon.
Alice I hope things went ok with the dreaded phone call with SIL or you could get out of it somehow inevidably.
Saffy glad the IVF is all steam ahead.
Sunbeam where are you going from here? I mean BT's, scans etc or are you going to avoid BTs til scan time?
Welcome to all the newbies. I don't post in here much. TBH I find it hard keeping up.
Ferrals, Crafty, happybaby and everyone else due to test in the coming week or so FX its a BFP for you all.
AFM had a cry this morning when my brother let me know my latest nephew is here. Its been so easy for them go off pill bang pregnant within 2weeks both times just over 12months apart and they plan on no4 straight away. Its so depressing. They have had 2 since we have been ttc and everything has gone so smoothly. Of course I don't wish them any bad luck but why is it so hard. SIL is late 30's and I've been infertile since 24! She has been a real cow about it also. To start with she always asked if I was pregnant yet, followed by a lecture how to get pregnant and lastest was not talking to me for 6months and then accusing me of been miserable and I should get over it. Easy for her to say when to me it seems she gets everything she wants. ***** *****, *****! And she told me her elective c/s was next week and she wasn't due until late next month when bro just said they have known for weeks he would be born today. Arrr so sorry for the *****. I am just so depressed I am still not pregnant and probably no closer to been so.
Last edited by onthefly; June 17th, 2010 at 03:24 PM.
: Creative spelling
Mildez - Sorry you are upset but I do understnad especially when she is obviously such a cow. I have just booked an appt with traditional chinese herbalists (a place I've been to before) to see if they can give me something to help this one stick. I had a dream about chinese herbalists helping me the other night that's what made me think of it. I am due for bt on monday but will not be finding out my HCG as I drove myself silly last time figuring out what my next level needed to be ect. Just going with the flow on this one.
Subeam, you are such a calm woman! Well, you come across as being very Zen about things. I think the TCM is a great idea - I'm very impressed with the one I'm seeing atm and I'm sure they can help plus acupuncture can help too I believe. I hope this little one is burrowing in and sticky fast - time for your earth baby as KitFaerie would say. Hope you have a happy and healthy pg and all goes well for you x
Mildez - I completely get what you are saying about your SIL and she sounds like a right cow. Some people just don't have any empathy whatsoever - things go so easy for them they can't understand why everyone can't just join in the circus of their self-celebrations. Big hugs to you - you have every right to cry and feel sad and I'm hoping that your turn will be very very soon x
Quick question.... we just got DH semen results... count was 62,000,000 BUT 92% of them were bad!! Do we have any hope?? Doc said he wasnt too stressed about it still feels we will conceive naturally but im really worried!!
T-hopes I am quoting this out of the IVF book I have for Sydney IVF and it says conception rates generally start to fall once the morphology is lower then 15% normal forms. I remember ferrals writting a week or so ago (and please quote me ferrals and correct me if I am wrong) that her FS said something about 4-5% normal forms been normal. I certainly wouldn't class that as been normal (not saying it can't achieve a pregnancy by any means but) myself but if the FS said so then maybe it is. I know on my DH pathology sheet normal was defined as above 15% normal forms.
Do remember however that sperm can be increased with diet and lifestyle changes. And one SA is not enough to tell exactly what is going on in the "his" department. You could get one bodge result and the next few be great or alternatively the opposite where one result looks great but the rest is not so great. And a count of that is great also.
Thanks so much Mildez! I called my chinese doctor lady and she said it was bad so im really confused.... DH has never smoked, never even had a coffee in his life either... He has the odd social drink but really not much since January... He is a healthy weight and fit! Oh and has been on Menevit for 4 mths! I dont know what else he could possibly change!
sunbeam!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!! Well done girl!!! That's made my night!!!! xxxooo
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I don't want to talk to them. I don't want to know
lol. We'll do that tonight
to Sunbeam ( I know you don't know me but I have been a lurker in the threads since last year and have seen what a difficult journey you have had), even though its early it must be strong to show up like that, sticky vibes to you xx
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I have just booked an appt with traditional chinese herbalists (a place I've been to before) to see if they can give me something to help this one stick. I had a dream about chinese herbalists helping me the other night that's what made me think of it. I am due for bt on monday but will not be finding out my HCG as I drove myself silly last time figuring out what my next level needed to be ect. Just going with the flow on this one.
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