Nice work Mez lol
sorry I had to laugh I remember those pains very well from my Lap in april last year
I am glad ur feeling a bit better u will be back to normal in no time
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Nice work Mez lol
sorry I had to laugh I remember those pains very well from my Lap in april last year
I am glad ur feeling a bit better u will be back to normal in no time
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Hi All,
Hoping I can join in! Brief b/ground/ TTC # 2 for 16 months, 2 m/c whilst ttc # 2 (4 all up) prescribed clomid (just finished rd 3) - but with no monitoring... Is that normal? OBS said to come back after 6 mths ttc on clomid if no success (viable pg), but now I am thinking of just going back & demanding a referral to a FS or can I get a referral from my GP to a FS?
Sorry for the 'me' post. Just feeling gutted since AF showed up today
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Hi RiChiChi - welcome!
AF arriving is never fun..always makes me go why why why???? In answer to your question, my GP gave me a referral to a FS, who has been great. FS said I could try 2-3 rounds of clomid and if that didn't work it would be time for a lap (which I had on Thursday). The first round of clomid was monitored with an internal U/S and bloods on day 21 to check ovulation. Because all worked well with Oing on round 1, I didn't need any tests on round 2. FS said there was no point wasting more time on clomid if there was something wrong with my plumbing, so that's why I had the lap.
Before going to my FS I had tried sooo many natural therapies (herbs, acupuncture, kinesiology, reiki etc etc etc) and no luck. Even though I had no luck, these therapies, especially yoga, did help improve my health and wellbeing. I believe these therapies do work for some people, so have you tried seeing a naturopath / Chinese Doctor?
Anyway, after 16 months of trying, you are certianly within your rights to ask for a referral to a FS. If you want to bypass your OB, just get a referral from your GP. Not sure where you live, but if you're in Melbourne, David Wilkinson frm City Fertility is lovely.
Good luck!
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Thanks for your reply Mez Moz. Sounds like we have taken similar paths down the ttc route.... I had the prog test on CD21 after the first round of Clomid, which shows I 'O'd' and OBS kept the dose the same, but no internal u/s. I have also tried natural therapies, starting with a Naturopath - whom I saw whilst ttc # 1, I went back but no luck, so I switched to a Chinese Herbalist / Accupuncturist (known to 'support' women during IVF) but I stopped going as ttc was becoming a 'chore' - (I did the herbs & accupuncture) I also do yoga once a week & have started seeing a personal trainer twice a week as well as a food diary to lose weight etc....
I will call my OBS Monday & see how far an appointment is away - he is really busy & go from there. I am in Melbourne SE suburbs. I assume David Wilkinson is in the CBD? Does anyone know of anyone at Monash Clayton worth seeing?
I am thinking I may need a lap - perhaps for blocked tubes as previous u/s showed that all was clear after my last mc. I would also like DH to get checked out - he is 39 this year.
Will be back to catch up with everyone properly once my head space is clear...!
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RhiChiChi the only thing I can say for Monash Clayton is if ur overweight (like I am) dont bother they were really rude to me even after I dropped 11kgs in 2 weeks and I had to fight like anything to get put on clomid. I dont thinks theres a harm in trying if u want to but I will be finding a different FS, if I need it next month, cos I really dont want to go back
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Rhichichi,
I was referred to dr Gronow at Melbourne IVF and he's been good. My GP said anyone from melbourne IVF is good. I know it's annoying to have to travel to the CBD, but for a nice doctor, I'm happy to do it. Have you had a saline u/s? I've also had a number of miscarriages in the past year, and I just had a scan last week that showed a polyp in my uterus which can cause miscarriage apparently. It was expensive, but if it means I can get pregnant and stay pregnant, it's worth it I suppose.
got1want1more, I can't believe you were treated so poorly! Clomid is often prescribed for women with Polycystic Ovaries (which I have) and we are often on the heavy side (which I am too!). I hope you find someone who can help.
Hopefully everyone else is going well (and recovering from your surgeries).
Bec
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Bec I have PCOS too and I eventually got my prescription for the clomid
I am in the outer south east suburbs of Melb and I will be looking for a FS if next month is not successful
I know of 1 called Hayden Najaa or something like that and he is next to Monash Clayton and is supposed to be good. Haven't seen him but I might give him a shot
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laparoscopy PCOS?
Hi ladies,
Hope you don't mind me joining your site but you are all so similar to me.
I went off pill Dec 08 and diagnosed PCOS in April 09. I did 6 cycles of clomid (3 at max dosage) with no ovulation. I am now in 3rd month of naturopathic treatment but still no ovulation.
I have just seen an excellent FS, Gab Kovacs, who recommends FSH LH injections or laparoscopy surgery to burn the follices. I am going the surgery option.
He can get me in Thursday (4 Feb)! So I am freaking out a bit but reading your posts helps.
Unfortunately DH has to work Friday & Saturday so my mum would have to come and pick me up Friday morning from home and drive me 30mins to her house. Looking for advice...
- the day after the operation are you ok enough to be driven for 30mins?
- Do you have to lie down all the time or can you sit up?
- my FS says work Monday after Thursday op would be no problem. What do you think? I have a big meeting Monday
- also... have a good friend's 40th on Friday night, assume that even contemplating that is out of the question?!
I realise my questions seem a bit self absorbed but I was only told today that I could have the op on Thursday - hence the calendar hasn't quite been cleared properly! I could wait a month but hey, that's another month on top of the 18months so far and it is never going to be an ideal time. I have until Tuesday afternoon (2nd) to decide!
Any advice appreciated!
Especially the golf balling has worked for people with PCOS that you know of!
Thanks,
Kim
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Sorry girls - thought I would gate crash - was on this forum this time last year and still like to see what is happening.
Fingers crossed Tammara - it must be your time now.
MezMoz - just a quick note, i was on 50 mg clomid for 5 months, it was working ie I was Oing but it still ranged from anywhere from 14 to 23 days so was using OPOAS tests - which was how I found out where I was up to. Anyway, after 5 months had my lap/hys/dye and came out to find out it appeared nothing wrong, which was great but very disappointing. My FS said that I may have had "gunk" in my tubes and that is why they give you 3 months to fall again as your tubes are all clean, otherwise next stage. Anyway, the first month after I was back on clomid 50 mg and fell (we had been trying for 21 months in total by that stage). So hope this gives you some hope.... I have just under 8 weeks until I am due.
Good luck girls.
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hi 20094me
i had the ovarian drilling (golf balling) in october/november last year but unfortunately for me it didnt improve anything. But in regards to after the op i was feeling fine that evening a little drowzy but i dont even remember taking pain killers at all. I would deffinately not rule out going to the party friday night, and work monday should be no problem at all.
The surgery is very (cant think of the word lol) it not big if that makes sence i think i only had two places where they went in - one with 3 small cuts less that 5mm and the other only had 2 little cuts the same size.
Personally i had no problems at all but i did have my gal bladder taken out in july so compared to that it was easy lol
i think you will be fine just dont push yourself, you will know if your doing too much.
hope this helps put your mind to rest
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Ladies!
Bec - thanks for your post - it does give me hope! I'm really hoping that it happens for us now that I've had a lap. We've booked a trip to Broome in May, figuring it will be good timing if we have to do IVF (having a break before heading into it) or we'll be UTD! It just seems crazy that if I'm fine and DH is fine, then why no baby!
Kim, re your lap I had mine on 21 Jan. In answer to your questions...
Yep, you can be driven for 30 minutes as long as your driver isn't speedy gonzalos and takes it easy. Don't leave the hospital until you feel good enough to walk to the car though (nurses won't let you leave until you feel OK anyway).
You get some heavy duty painkillers during the lap that last for a while after, and then you'll be given pain killers to take yourself. Don't wait until you feel a lot of pain to take one. Pop a pill as soon as you feel slight discomfort. Read my earlier post about laxatives and pain killers - don't take them unless you really have to!
You can certainly sit up after the operation, although I found lying on the couch the best position when i got home form the hospital, probably coz I was so drugged up still!
My FS also does all his laps on Thursday so you are right to go to work on Monday. You'll be fine to go to work unless you are a professional acrobat -then I'd wait a bit longer. If you just require your mind for the big meeting, then you will be fine.
See how you feel on the Friday night for your friend's 40th. I actually had the most pain on the Friday because I was just relying on popping pills to manage the pain and probably didn't take them as soon as I should have. You might feel like dropping in for a quiet drink, but you won't feel like kicking up your heels and partying until the wee hours. Hope this all helps.
Porsche - hope your lap went well. Do let us know how it went when your back online.
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Thanks guys. I have decided to go ahead with Thursday. Freaking out a bit but your posts are reassuring!
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Hi Ladies
I'm back. Lap went well yesterday. I'm only in a little pain from the incision sites. I've got 2 little cuts and they glued them Yay!!
Apparently my tubes are "all good". I guess that means they are clear. I'm not seeing FS for another 6 weeks. Is that normal? I'm guessing if it was urgent she would want me to come in sooner? That means I have to post pone my appointment with QFG for at least 6 weeks.
FS hasn't given me any more instructions on what to do now. I'm still on the clomid and this is now cycle 7. So I guess we just carry on trying?
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Hi 20094me, good luck with your lap on Thursday. Don’t want to freak you out but just wanted to tell you about my experience with my lap as it seems to have been quite different to the other ladies. I had mine 3 weeks ago on Thursday. I was off work for 10 days afterwards with a full medical certificate from my surgeons. I was in a lot of pain all weekend. Was not able to sit in a car until the Saturday night, but I think if you need to then you will be ok doing that (it’s amazing what the body will do when you need it to). It has taken me a long time to recover. I don’t feel that my mind is 100% still, I know it sounds strange but I have trouble spitting out what I want to say (more than usual) and forming sentences that make sense sometimes (these can all be side effects of the aesthetic though). I had golf balling, dyes test and looking for endo done. Please don’t let my experience freak you out, the procedure itself was totally fine, the nurses were over the top lovely, informative and very very helpful. I too would suggest not taking laxatives unless you absolutely need to, I have not gone into detail on this site but let me just say it was not fun (I feel your pain Mez). Good luck with Thursday and I hope you have some answers very soon.
Hey Mez, sorry to hear you don’t have any answers. At least there is nothing seriously wrong though and so many women say that they fall just after having a lap, so hopefully that is true for you, me & Porche. I think I ovulated yesterday (with no Clomid) so I am seeing my gyno on Friday (which is day 21) and I will get her to send me for a BT to make sure. Good luck with your next round of Clomid.
Hey Tammara, I can’t believe how quickly this has all gone for you, it is really encouraging for me though. At least I know if we end up down that path we won’t be waiting for months and months to begin. Good luck with implantation, hopefully it will go as well for you as it did for frustrated, 1st time around, I have my fingers crossed for you.
Hi to all the newbie’s, this site is a life savour. Even if you don’t post all the time it is so good to come in and read about everyone’s journeys, it really reminds me that I am not alone, doesn’t matter what happens someone else has been through exactly the same and someone will after me as well.
Babydust to all.
Love Keli xxoo
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Hi Porche, I was told to see my gyno in 4-6 weeks after my opp, but I have booked in to see her earlier in the hope that she has my biopsy results by then, I will call the day before to confirm.
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Hi Keli
I'm guessing it must be normal to wait 6 weeks before going back. She is difficult to get an appointment with so I'll just go to my appointment with QFG see what they have to say and then have my appointment with my FS in March. It can't hurt to have a second opnion anyway.
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Hi Ladies,
Tammara - hope your "me" weekend went well!
Back at work (and therefore this site) today. Lap on Thursday went well I think. The surgeon said they did the golf balling and the tubes seemed ok.
I had some pain but not too much and am feeling ok. I didn't have much bleeding after the lap - has anyone? But strangely yesterday (Sunday) I started to bleed and I am 80% certain it is my period, not post op stuff. But just seems to good to be true that I got it so soon, my FS said don't expect it for several weeks at best (I have only had 1 normal bleed in 15mths and I think that was brought on my nautral herb medicine).
May be this month (or next) I will finally ov! (Although FS said that I will probably have to start Clomid again, aghgh, thought I was done with that - 150mg didn't do anything last time)! Fortunately I take Clomid and Metformin with very few side affects (like others have said - definitely take it with food and NOT on an empty stomach and you should be ok).
If you are trying to loose weight and haven't tried a naturopath or dietician I recommend giving it a go. I used to get big sugar cravings and chocolate was my absolute downfall. But my naturopath suggested a different diet of nautral (low sugar) museli with natural yoghurt for breakfast, salad (with beans or tuna) or lunch and dinner of meat & veg. Plus supplement whever possible the food with natural protein e.g. Quinoa or Amaranth (both go well in salads and even amaranth in museli). Since I started this a couple of months ago I have found the protein to fill me up for longer and it has dimnished my sugar/chocolate cravings (although it was bloody hard to begin with)!
Good luck to you all - be it with weight loss, cycles, ovulation, TTC, and finally pregnancy!
20094me (otherwise known as Kim)
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Hello all!
Back from our little mini holiday - feeling very relaxed.
Have caught up with where everyone is, but I won't attempt persies.
Just an update from me: I went to the OBS/GYNO today & he wouldn't do a laproscopy....we had a good chat & he said that 50% of couple will fall pg on Clomid within 6 months & if no pg by then (so, April), then down the road of exploratory stuff (ie: lap, IVF referral etc...) I managed to get another blood test for this Friday to confirm I am still ovulating on the Clomid (first cycle was done & results were 60, which aparently is very good) and DH has got a referral to get his sperm tested at Monash, which will be sometime during the week of the 15th Feb) So overall whilst not exactly what I wanted, I feel calmer & a bit more optimistic (could be from the chat with the counsellor & mini break too!)
If DH sperm results come back 'poor' then he will fast forward my lap & referral to IVF.
Best of luck to you all. I hope to see some BFP posts soon :-)
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