I'm officially PUPO with a single blastie - so if its okay I'd like to come and hang out in here?
It's super quiet in here.... I hope maybe some other ladies will be joining soon? Miss B and Juniper I'm really grateful that you are both here....
My BT is next Thursday. I can imagine I won't be able to not POAS, the only real question is 'when' will I POAS. I'd welcome any advice on when is the most realistic time to start, I always start too early and I don't want to torture myself this cycle.
Congrats 3rd time lucky! Looks like your stay in here will be super short. Crossing everything for you hun. I normally had a result about the week after transfer hun. With my 6 day blastie (my DS) I remember I had a transfer on a Saturday and a very faint positive a week later on the Sunday. With my 2 day embie (I got pg but m/c later) I got a positive 6 days post transfer I think. Now, no testing for me though, I am just put off for life lol xx
Asses Miss B thank you. I have to admit I am a bit put off after today as well! It's a bit disconcerting testing to see whether the trigger has gone and getting a feint line - on the day of your transfer! I only started today because didn't want to wait 2 or 3 days post transfer and then cave and test - get a feint line, get my hopes up, and then discover the line has gone a few days later as the trigger disappears and I'm an idiot..
Maybe I am actually put of POAS as well... I've decided after today that I am going to go as long as poss without testing and try and just go off symptoms and intuition.. Today's experience freaked me out!
Juniper I'm thinking of you and have everything crossed AF hasn't arrived.
Noooo! You have to keep testing now hun lol, you'll drive yourself crazy wondering if the trigger is still there or not!! I think n2l said it takes approximately 10 days for the trigger to leave the system counting when you trigger before the egg pick up in a fresh cycle....but of course yours is a FET so it's different.
Nooooooo! If POAS makes you feel crap - doing it every day will make you feel crapper! You don't need to know if the trigger is gone, you will find that out in two weeks whether or not you test! Make the decision based on how you want to feel every day.... I know my own mental health was better for not testing.... That's not the same for everyone, but you make the right decision for yourself, regardless of what others would do.
To be honest, i actually think, in my professional opinion (and I mean it!). It's not helpful for most people to obsess that much. I understand the rare few might benefit.... But I think for most people ... It doesn't help....
Just sit with the knowledge that our trigger worked.... It is ten days until it leaves the system.... Live in the illusion and try to enjoy it and just "live", take the pressure off yourself to know or not know.... If it's going to happen it will, and testing won't increase that chance....
I know its hard. I really do... And if you need to test before BT I totally understand.... But don't take up all your brain power living in the what ifs..... You will miss the journey along the way, and who knows what unit are missing that IS happening a round you.... Important life moments that you won't get back...
Just my opinion... For what it's worth....
Sorry for bossing.........will sneak back out again....
Miss you all daily, and wish you could all join me soon xox
LOL myturn - I love your bossing! Your still a superstar and my IVF hero so you can boss as much as you want
You are right, mentally it's not great to be testing everyday, but I will want to POaS before my BT and I know I won't be able to trust the result in my head. Hence, I am going to test on day 11 post trigger and then not test again until the morning before BT. I think that's a reasonable compromise?
Also my almost 5 year old ate a progesterone pessary this morning!! He thought it was a Lolly (stolen from my handbag). He spat it out, and I shouldn't laugh, but it was pretty funny. Explaining to him what it was (something for the garden - it was all I could think of on the fly) was not so funny! Neither was cleaning up the vomit that came shortly after.
Harder still was explaining to our nanny what it really was... This TTC ac stuff is not for the faint hearted!
Well I'm technically still in here, sigh. Have been bleeding all day long, heavy too (sorry tmi) I guess with the extra progesterone my lining was nice and thick. My BT is tomorrow but I just can't bring myself to go. Do I have to have the test? I'm sure I've come across posts of women who didn't bother going for the BT once AF showed up before the BT.....
Oh Miss B, so sorry to hear about the heavy AF I'm the same after the progesterone, I always bleed really heavily. That said, I have really heavy AF without the pessaries so I share your pain on that one! Re the blood test, you don't have to go if you don't want to - however my FS has always told me I should get the BT, even if I have got a negative POAS beforehand because they like to see what your other levels are doing at the end of the cycle regardless? However - it depends on what your FS tests for? Eg I know some clinics only test for pg - eg: HCG only, whereas my clinic tests for the 3 main hormones as well as HCG (oestrogen, progesterone and LH).... Maybe youncould ring your clinic and explain yout situation and hownyour feeling - and ask if therenis actually any benefit in having the BT if you feel like it hasn't worked? They may do the whole "some people can still have a period even if they are pg thing" - which tbh I find pretty unhelpFul when your already feeling like crap. I know there is merit in what they are saying from a medical perspective, but us ltttc'ers know our own bodies pretty well... If it were me I'd just be asking for their advice and what your personal FS wants you to do. If they get insight from this cycle for your next cycle - then I would probably do the BT (even though I'm sure a visitnto your clinic and the ensuing phone call is probably thenlastbthing you feel like!).
I'm so sorry your going through this. I wish there was something I could do to lessen or numb your pain I know it doesn't help - but I'm here for you, and I think of you all the time and try and do deals with the universe so you get your happy ending. I'm sending you all thenlove and hugs in the world.
AFM - Miss B it seems as though you and N2L were correct today is day 10 post trigger for me, and no second line. So it seems as though the trigger has left my system. I am not feeling any signs or symptoms... Which is bothering me a bit. Sore boobs yes, sore lower back tick, tiny cramping yesterday - but I know this is all from the pessaries Mentally I was feeling quite positive about this cycle, I started with a hit of the mindset of, of course it will work - it worked last time, why wouldn't it work. And I've been super busy which helps, but last night I started second guessing, not feeling any symptoms etc and then this morning, even though I know it's too soon to test, even if it has worked - getting the negative should have made me feel better (at least I know the trigger is gone) but it didn't, it made me feel like crap! As darling Amy_jb has said - it's too early and don't worry, she didn't have any symptoms and neither did I with the twins (I had mild cramping with the twins but that wasnprob from the pessaries as well) - but with the twins cycle, I just felt so positivenit would work.... And now I'm stressing and actually thinking, well what if it doesn't work??? And I don't know why I feel so shocked that I'm even thinking that? I should have been thinking that from the beginning - but I wasn't....
Soooooo I'm feeling a bit lost. Today is 3dp5dt - if I was going to have an implantation bleed - roughly when would it - or should it happen? I know there aren't many people posting in here, but stalkers if you are stalking - please feel free to jump in with any knowledge, personal experience or advice - when would an implantation bleed happen if it was going to happen? And while I'm asking - does anyone know where to find the chart that outlines what happens each day in an IVF cycle post transfer? I remember when I was in the 2ww with the twins - there was a chart somewhere on here that outlined what was happening 'in there' each day after transfer on a day 3 transfer and a 5 day transfer? Does anyone know where I might find this chart? All I can remember was I think that day 3 after a 5 day transfer is when implantation is supposed to commence? I think?.... Okay so I've been going really well in the 2ww until today... Nowi can feel the obsessing and stressing beginning
Popping in as a stalker- I never had implantation bleeds on IVF cycles, only from natural pregnancies for some reason. One was about a week after ovulating, one was the day my period was due.
I also didn't have symptoms at 10dpt, if I ever had symptoms on a successful cycle it was closer to when period was due, so try not to freak out about symptoms yet, I know it's hard.
There's nothing you can do at this stage to know either way, so just try and hang in there. I spent the last 2ww googling everyday - symptoms 8dpt, symptoms 9dpt, etc,etc, it drives you mad but it's impossible to just relax.
Sneaking in... I never went for my BT when I did my IVF cycle as I knew it was AF and no way did I want them to call me and tell me what I knew. They got a bit cranky that I didn't go.
Yes it is quiet but you have lots of stalkers
Stalking too, but not much positive to add. Like saffy I only ever had implant bleeds in my natural pg and not the ivf ones.... I have no idea where to find the charts, I don't think I have ever seen one.
Well, I didn't go for my BT today, so they rang me and told me I still have to come in. Bugger, I already know what they gonna tell me!
3rd time lucky, I never had implantation bleeding in any of my pg. I can't compare natural v IVF pg, as I've never (not to my knowledge anyway) had a natural pg. Lack of symptoms, well, I don't believe I had any in my very first successful cycle. I guess b/c I didn't expect it to work the first time, I wasn't looking for symptoms. I do remember waiting for AF and it just never turned up, so I might have had cramping thinking AF is on the way, I really can't recall. And I might have had sore boobies, but I wouldn't have taken that as a symptom as I get sore bb a week before AF. As for the testing hun, I can honestly say I know exactly what you mean about the doubt creeping in. I would say don't test anymore until the night before your BT or if you really want to, test 6 days post your transfer. I've always had a result either way around 6 days post transfer, but I know some ladies don't get a positive until right up to the time AF is due. Big hugs in any case hun, I dread the 2WW now, I wish we could know straight away! lol.
OK, I'm copying from what myturn one posted for a 5 day transfer :
-1dpt - embryo is growing and developing
0dpt - embryo is now a blastie
1dpt - blastie hatches out of it's shell
2dpt - blastie attaches to the site
3dpt - implantation begins
4dpt - implantation process continues and morula buries deeper into the lining
5dpt - morula is completely implanted
6dpt - placenta cells begin to secret HCG
7dpt - more HCG is produced
8dpt - more HCG is produced as fetus develops
9dpt - HCG levels are now high enough to be detected on a HPT
Re: LTTTC Two Week Wait 2013 # 4
I'm the same after the progesterone, I always bleed really heavily. That said, I have really heavy AF without the pessaries so I share your pain on that one! Re the blood test, you don't have to go if you don't want to - however my FS has always told me I should get the BT, even if I have got a negative POAS beforehand because they like to see what your other levels are doing at the end of the cycle regardless? However - it depends on what your FS tests for? Eg I know some clinics only test for pg - eg: HCG only, whereas my clinic tests for the 3 main hormones as well as HCG (oestrogen, progesterone and LH).... Maybe youncould ring your clinic and explain yout situation and hownyour feeling - and ask if therenis actually any benefit in having the BT if you feel like it hasn't worked? They may do the whole "some people can still have a period even if they are pg thing" - which tbh I find pretty unhelpFul when your already feeling like crap. I know there is merit in what they are saying from a medical perspective, but us ltttc'ers know our own bodies pretty well... If it were me I'd just be asking for their advice and what your personal FS wants you to do. If they get insight from this cycle for your next cycle - then I would probably do the BT (even though I'm sure a visitnto your clinic and the ensuing phone call is probably thenlastbthing you feel like!).
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