bj don't stress just yet. I remember the nurse yesterday telling me that even if you get that kind of discharge it doesn't nec mean the bad news. Looking at your sig you have a frozen bub on board right? So no prog support / gel? Cos that can often give you discharge like that particularly towards the end of the 2ww.
Just think, stressing is not going to help so try to chill about it. We don't have a lot of control over these things so the best you can do try not to worry yourself too much. I know its easier said than done - try keep yurself busy and pampered by your DH. And at least you are only 4 sleeps away from BT. Your on the home stretch now!
Jaki80 - so sorry hun, take care of yourself this weekend.
BJ - that could be old blood from an implantation bleed. Don't give up!
Loops and nix - GL with your 2ww's
AFM - going CRAZY. DH is away for work until Sunday afternoon. I am currently 12 days post transfer of a blastie... and although I swore I wouldn't, I caved and POAS today.
Now I'm freaking out because it showed up positive within ten seconds. All I am taking is progesterone and estrogen, no pregnyl etc, so my mind is telling me that perhaps this is a positive, but I can't believe it. Previously when I've POAS I'd had pregnyl in my system still and got some light positives but they went away closer to test day.
I just don't know what to think. Don't want to get my hopes up yet again.
Just sticking my head in here. I've not posted in the TWW thread before as I am normally too emotional... but here I am! Feeling strong today. I cried a lot after EPU (in the clinic) for no reason whatsoever. And I was pretty calm with ET as well... soooo different to last IVF cycle where I was bouncing off the walls.
MrsP - sounds really good for you. FX'd.
Jaki - sorry to hear your news.
Bronsie - have you tried Sharkeys? They helped to regulate my natural cycle, but I had endo (unkonwingly) so I never got a BFP. Since my endo op i've been doing IVF and not herbals, though some people do both.
Daisie - I cried after both my EPU's too! But then again on my ET day I cried towards the end of "Bride Wars" the movie!! It seems it doesn't take much to set me off at the moment!
Good luck hun with your 2ww! FX for a BFP!
Mrs P - hope its not the support and a true BFP! Only a few days to go to find out!
Nix - No I'm not on any prog support so it can't be from that. I am trying to stay calm and not think the worst but don't know if I'm convincing myself. Nothing has changed, AF hasn't arrived but it has been 2 days of still getting the light brown colour on and off, but only when I go to the bathroom?? If it's going to come I wish it would just come and stop torturing me! I guess though I am still praying for a miracle and hoping that this is just something else going on in there....
Mrs P - Any further developments? It sounds very promising to me! Good luck!!
Daisie - Hi and good luck with your 2ww, its ok you can get as emotional as you want in here, we all have our days!
bj - it's still sounding like possible implantation bleeding hun. The spotting I had was a bit on and off too, and was brown.
Brunette - not nosey at all My boobs are sore and are definitely bigger plus the aerola (sp?) are noticeably larger. But I think the bigger boobs may be from the progynova I am taking. This was my first transfer using pessaries so not sure if any of this is associated with that.
Also - I've had some wierd cramping sensations in my abdomen, not like AF cramps though, and last weekend I was lying on the couch and I sneezed and got this massive cramp/pain all the way across my lower abdomen, near the ovaries as well. Kinda wierd.
Also - I think my sense of smell has improved, which could be a figment of my imagination of course, but I was at the shops on THursday night and everything SMELT strong to me! And the final thing would be the brown spotting I had around 6-7 days post transfer.
Well tomorrow is test day so I will finally know for sure. Fingers crossed.
Mrs P - Thanks for that. I haven't yet noticed any signs, other than a bit of twingeing in the lower abdomen. Also (probably TMI) but I am a little constipated and I think my sense of smell is heightened, but I am probably just imagining it all .... No sore boobs at all yet, though on the last two IVF cycles I had swollen boobs and they were sore/tingly and they were both BFN.
Mrs P - Again I'm going to pry way too much....Was your spotting actually spotting or was it more of just a light brown colour on the loo paper? Or could the difference just be that I'm not on the pesseries? You must be so excited about tomorrow....Did you tell your DH about the HPT?
Brunette - I haven't had sore boobs either but I usually get them before AF so that's got me stumped!? My cramping today kind of feels like a stitch right up near my ribs and some twinges in my lower abdomen. It is so hard not to read into things either way!
BJ - It is so hard to not read things into everything, isn't it? If we weren't in the TWW, no doubt we wouldn't even notice the twinges/cramps etc. I try to tell myself it's nothing and not get my hopes up, but then I go and do stupid things like work out the date the baby would be born based on day of conception, and what starsign the baby would be On the last cycle I had two embies transferred and every night I would say goodnight to them and good morning, and then when it was a BFN I felt like an idiot. So this time I haven't done that - and then I feel guilty as if I've given up on them when they might still be there and doing fine! Aaaaagh.
Mrs P - that sounds so promising. I've never had such a strong second line, I would be feeling very hopeful! When is your BT?
Daisie - hello and welcome! I have endo too, which is our only diagnosis, otherwise we're "unexplained". How about you? There's nothing like the support from these women to keep you strong. And it's a great place to let your emotions fly too!
AFM - I couldn't tell you whether I thought I was pg or not. Friday and Saturday I felt nauseous, crampy and very emotional, but then yesterday I had only mild physical symptoms but was crying at nearly everything! DH thought it was the buildup of the crinone that had me feeling so lousy, but if that were true wouldn't I have continued to feel that way Sunday and today? I just scoured the house looking for HPTs, even though DH and I agreed we would wait until BT. Thankfully I couldn't find any, which will help me keep my resolve. I don't know how I'm going to wait until Wednesday. I'm so hopeful, but so scared of being disappointed.
Last edited by Sal79; December 7th, 2009 at 08:42 AM.
Just popping in here to tell you guys of my experience I remember how I felt in all of my 2ww's and i was going crazy for info. I have been reading for the last couple of days and my heart and support goes out to each and every one of you.
The background.
I am 24 weeks pregnant from a transfer of 2 fresh 3day embybabies. It was my first boost cycle and I only had 2 eggs (out of 7 that were retrieved) fertilise. It was an experimental cycle because we didnt know how my body would react as my other cycles were the long ones . I had decided that I wanted to try the boost as I was running out of time before the medicare changes. After egg collection my FS did not hold out much hope as I only had 2 eggs that were mature. FS said that he knew exactly what to do for the next boost cycle and that we could start again really soon. Guess he REALLY didnt expect it to work lol.
Before this successful cycle I had 1 fresh cycle resulting in 1 blasty and 1 frosty blasty. Both BFN's.
What happened.
Day of transfer - had both 3day emby's transfered with no problems. One was a good 8 cell, the other was an ok 4 cell. I insisted on having both done, it was suggested that I have the 8 cell put in and let the other try to get to blasty. Nope. No way, no how.
I am pretty much done with blasty-waiting. I think that too many good, fertilised eggs are lost doing that. I firmly believe now that the embies are better off in my tum or frozen when they get to day 3. JMHO of course.
Anyways, after transfer I went straight down and had a strong coffee as I read somewhere that caffine is good. Went home and cried for the rest of the day, just felt sure it was all a big waste of time - wasnt going to work.
2-5dpt felt bad. Had pains in ovary area, irratable - basically AF type symptoms. 7-9 dpt got sore boobs and had definate pmt crampy pains. Knew it was caused by the horrid progesterone injections (no crinone this boost cycle). Ugg.
10 -11 dpt- weird stabbing pain in lower left side with a kind of dragging downward feeling. Thought a huge AF bleed was imminent. The stabbing pain almost felt like it was in my ovary. It was the only out of the ordinary pain I had. I now believe it was implantation.
11dpt- went to pub for lunch and had a medicinal guiness cos was convinced that i was definately BFN. No symptoms of pregnancy at all, everything seemed to be related to progesterone support.
12dpt- got totally fed up with waiting and decided to do a hpt while there was a chance that prog.support would cause a second line. Just wanted to see what it would feel like to get a bfp, even if it wasnt real. (yep, I had totally lost my mind at this point)
Did a hpt first think in the morning. Was negative straight away. Shrieked at DH like a mad woman that I "knew what negative looked like when i saw it" and to leave me alone when he wanted to check to make sure. ( not my finest moment but things arent always rainbows and sunshine when it comes to ivf). So, i threw the test away and cried for half an hour.
In the meantime, DH retrieved test from bin 15 minutes later. He sat and stewed for a while due to my previous reaction and then he came to me with the test. "Look at this" he said. "I might be crazy but i think i see a faint second line"... WELL. I snatched that thing out of his hand like it was a winning lotto ticket and peered at it like a mad scientist. OMG it f*ing did have a very very very faint second line!!! I made myself be calm and told him was most likely high progesterone levels, I would try again tomorrow morning. Went down and bought 5 hpt's for "just in case".
That day, no real symptoms to speak of, just some AF style cramps.
13dpt. Did second hpt at 4 am, faint second line still showing - it was 8 days since last progesterone injection, according to google it leaves the system after 7 days. I allowed a tiny bit of hope to creep in.
The next day, 14dpt, went for blood test. Result BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very high HCG levels, possibly multiples. Interesting to note, even though my levels were very high (around 900) the hpt only showed a really faint line, even at 14 days after transfer.
IN TOTAL AND UTTER SHOCK. (still kinda am) Had scan after a few weeks, both embybabies from transfer had implanted. At 8.5 weeks one of the little heartbeats disappeared, vanishing twin syndrome. Was a sad but had to focus on the one beautiful healthy baby that remained. Took a few weeks to get over it but I am fine now. I am still absolutely AMAZED that this cycle worked and resulted in a baby. I was pretty much convinced that it only happens for other people.
Kept doing hpt's even after i got the bfp. Compulsively. They were faint for ages.
In summary -
-Horrible but true, symptoms mean nothing. Progesterone injections and crinone cause AF symptoms. AF symptoms are very similar to early, early pregnancy. So we cant win lol.
-Hpt's are the enemy. Although resistance is futile.
-You gotta have nerves of steel in this game. Its a gamble. You lay your money on the table and with bad odds, you give it a shot. Be prepared for disappointment. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
- HOWEVER, remember that it does work. As long as you have the resources, keep trying. IT CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU.
Big hugs girls. I have my fingers and toes crossed for everyone.
Sammie
Last edited by sammiejam; December 7th, 2009 at 01:40 PM.
On the last cycle I had two embies transferred and every night I would say goodnight to them and good morning, and then when it was a BFN I felt like an idiot. So this time I haven't done that - and then I feel guilty as if I've given up on them when they might still be there and doing fine! Aaaaagh.
Looks like I was right....another 
for me. I'm just going to go and hide in my cave for a while.
Look after yourself today.
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