TTC & Taking Clomid &/0r Metformin ~ Nov/Dec 2007

[nicjay]

Nicki, that's great news about your scan not finding any tumour, but bummer about no lining Don't blame you in the least for not wanting to take a chance.

Hope everything gets back to normal for you soon. Sorry I should have given you my well wishes in my last post

[*Belle*]

Congrats Leasha!!!

Hi girls just wanted to let you know I got a BFP too! we must have concieved naturally which is a miracle it has never never happened to us before in 22months of TTC. I tested on Friday last week but it was faint but waited until yesterday to do another and it was a dark line !!! wont have the bloods done until next week though to confirm.

Thank you for all your help and support girls.

Bel
xxx

[lynros]

Hi Theresep, thanks for the welcome and support. Seems like we are in similar situations. I think the injections are with the IUI - and that will probably be my next course of action also. I'd like to try all options before considering IVF as I feel it will probably take alot out of you both physically and mentally and that's something I still need to prepare for. Good luck with your 1st cycle of clomid - my fingers are crossed for you.

Hi Emmalina, thanks for your well wishes. I think you're right about the age thing. I recall my first visit to FS, and after going through my options from Clomid to IVF, I remember him saying " Well if you really want a baby NOW, than IVF has the highest success rate of all the options". By saying NOW I think he was subtling trying to hint "you're 36 you know". Good luck at the FS tomorrow.

Taking clomid isn't too bad for me. The only real side effects have been hot flushes but I take the tablets at night so as to lessen the burden. I'm still charting my temperatures. Is anyone doing this as well? I've mixed feelings about temps because I read somewhere that if your temp was 37 deg and stayed that way from days CD26 on, then there was no need for a HPT as you were pregnant. Well I've been 37 deg on many occasions right up to and including the day AF arrives - so that blows that theory out of the water cause I aint pregnant yet.

Good luck to all!

[theresep]

Good news for you Ickimum, regarding the clear scan! What a relief - lets hope the pill will be good for rebuilding your lining. Enjoy your Christmas break

Belle and Leasha, such wonderful news for the both of you - all the best for healthy pregnancy! Keep your fingers crossed for the rest of us!!

Hi and welcome to megsmum - hope you get your bfp in time for Christmas!

Lynros - i'm also still charting my temp! I stopped for a while, but after i had a lap, my FS asked me to start charting again, so i've just kept going - i've got it down to a fine art now, barely moving as i stick my hand out for the thermometer!! Not sure about your theory either, as my temp often stays high up until AF..... another of life's little mysteries... don't you just luv 'em

Best wishes all

[nicjay]

Hi lynros,

I chart my temps too, although this month I have only charted until 4 DPO - I am getting a bit over it all and I find that I sleep not so well when I am charting. I hardly ever get temps of 37, and never got even close to it the cycle I fell preg, so I don't know about that theory either. LMK if you would like to see my preg chart - I can post a link to it if you like. Anyway, as far as I am aware, the theory with the temps is that if they stay elevated for longer than your normal luteal phase then you *may* be preg - that's what happened with mine and as it turned out I was preg.

HTH

[Indadhanu]

I don't think it is necessarily the temps themselves, but the pattern.... if they stay above your normal LP temps (like Susannah said) then I'd say thats a good sign. Also, some people never have temps reaching 37, especially if they do oral temps... mine are vaginal (yes, very glamorous!) so they tend to be higher than oral temps.

The temps for this cycle (with my BFP) are in my sig. if you want to have a look...

[sryan]

Hi all,

Thought I would have a chat. Have been on another discussion.

Anyway I am on my 2nd cycle of clomid and really don't have any side affects (thankgoodness) though I do take the tablet at night before bed also.

I also temp, as I have given so much information on charting etc to my Prof (Repromed) and it has helped us tremendously to understanding things.

I am heading towards Ovulation, so I have my fingers crossed that this cycle will be my Christmas Pressie.

I wish you all the best and hopefully we all have BFP this cycle.

xxx Sue xxx

[lynros]

Hi Megsmum, glad to see I'm not the only one so over charting temperatures. I get quite obsessive sometimes about it, and it drives me crazy If you could send a link to your chart that would be really handy, thanks.

Leasha0986, I think you're probably right about the pattern although like I said, my temps are often around the 37 and stay that way til AF

Good luck to everybody counting on BFP's this weekend.

[nicjay]

lynros - I know exactly how you feel about charting, it's so easy to get like that I think. I'm really trying hard to just relax about it all this month. And we are going away for a few days next week, so I'm not going to pack the thermometer (or any HPTs )!! Anyway, I've put the link to my preg chart in my sig - I hope it helps and good luck!

sryan - good luck for your 2nd cycle That's great that you haven't had any side effects, and I hope you (I hope we all do!!) get your Christmas BFP.

[TaRhLi.]

Hi All

It is comforting to see some other here like me who are just at the start of this process. I have just finished my second course of Clomid (days 2-6) at a higher does than last time (now 50mg). Scan on Monday to hopefully see if there is any sign on follicle growth. Not feeling very confident as at 25mg supposedly had a day 10 follicle at 10 but by day 14 when futher scan done the lagest follicle was 8.
FS seemed to think 2 follicles measured together at day 10 scan.

So now on second cycle to see if this works. My FS initially indicated that I we would do 3 cycles Clomid, 3 cycles Clomid + IUI and then if nothing IVF. However as I had already had 1 Clomid cycle with no success I don't know if the 3 cycles means 3 cycles of taking the Clomid (working or not) or if it means 3 cycles with O.

Well fingers crossed for Monday, luckily for me I managed to get this in before Xmas or else a month would have been lost of not knowing if the increased dose worked or not.

Good luck to everyone and have a relaxing Xmas.

[theresep]

Hi KellyD, and welcome! I'm also on the clomid - you may have read a few of my earlier posts - this is my second round, at 50mg, cd 5 - 9. Today is cd 12, so will have the 'do not disturb' sign on the front door shortly!!How have you been with any side effects? I've thankfully avoided them so far. My FS isn't doing any scans to check on follicle growth - are you doing this because there is a question mark over your body ovulating naturally? It's interesting reading about different procedures that other FS do. I've also decided to have acupuncture while i'm on the clomid cycles. This second round, i feel like there is more 'movement' in my lower abdomen area, this makes me think that the wheels are turning, and my reproductive organs are busy doing their job! LOL - the thoughts i have sometimes are funny Good luck for your scan on Monday! And enjoy your Chrissy also. x

[nicjay]

Hi teresep and KellyD, I just wanted to say good luck to both of you for this cycle! I am 8 days into my second cycle on 50mg Clomid and just about to start our "week of love" LOL expecting to O late next week, a few days before Christmas thank goodness. The side effects this time around have been pretty bad - really bad moods, not sleeping well and headaches - but they seem to be easing off a bit now at least.

teresep - I had ovary pain for a few days leading up to O last cycle, so I'd say your movements are probably a good sign too. Hope you've got that Do Not Disturb sign up soon (if you haven't already!)

KellyD - I must be just about at the same stage in my cycle as you are - I take Clomid CD1 to 5 and took my last tab on Tuesday this week. I hope the 50mg dose works for you my ob started me straight out on 50mg and I O'ed first cycle on it, so maybe 25mg just wasn't enough?? Although I should say that I'm taking it more to correct a LPD and lengthen my short cycle, so I may be a bit different to you. Good luck for your scan on Mon, hope it goes well.

Good luck all.

[TaRhLi.]

Hi theresp & megsmum

My FS stasrted me on 25mg to see if we could establish O. I was diagnosed with PCOS in May of this year although always sensed something was wrong as pretty much since puberty (13) I would only have a period once every 8-10 months.

I went to a gynae in Jan 06 and had a lap & hysterscopy done to see if there was any reason but everything was clear with no endo & clear tubes (thank god) and the conclusion was I would only get a period after O occured which was infrequent. I was advised at that time when I wanted to get pregnant then clomid would be the option to have regular O.

After being diagnosed with PCOS, I got a referral to a Gynae here in Ballarat who also happens to be the IVF specialist up here (lucky for me or else I would have had to go to Melb) as I was having an extended cycle - 2 mths. After discussions with them I looked at the options and my partner & I decided that we better start trying due to the length of time this could take, my age (35 in Feb) and also genetic factors of a history of early menopause.

Hence started last cycle at 25mg to see if worked (and also to monitor that hyperstimulation did not occur due to there currently being approx 45 small follicles per ovary from the PCOS), the 25mg had no impact on the follicle growth, hence having a day 10 & 14 scan, although I did have the side effects of an increased body temperature and bloating.

This cycle only side effect is the bloating although I have started to get some mild cramping in my lower abdo, so maybe something happening but I don't get my hopes up. Monday will hopefully give me a better idea and then a possible rescan on Friday as well along with LH testing day 12/13/14.

Good luck to you both with this cycle as well, with any luck we will all have some good news for Xmas/New Year.

[TaRhLi.]

Hi teresep & megsmum,

Thanks for your good wishes. Side effects not too bad this cycle, only bloating. Last cycle suffered from increased body temp & bloating.

The reason my FS started me on 25mg was due to PCOS (approx 45 follicles per ovary at last scan) and didn't want me to either get hyperstimulation or multiple follicles grow, so starting at low doses and building up from there.

The 25mg had no effect on the follicle growth at all so will see if the 50mg works any better. If not it will be 75mg next cycle and so on. Fingers crossed for my Monday scan with hopefully some follicles growing, then probably the day 14 scan to see if there is a lead follicle.

theresep - it is interesting that you are not having scans... My FS won't let me proceed with a cycle without the scans and if there is any hint of more than 2 lead follicles they cancel the cycle as they don't want to risk having more than possible twin births.

Fingers crossed for you both.

[theresep]

Hi Kelly D and Megsmum - how are the both of you going? Well, i can take the 'do not disturb' sign off the door, as i've ovulated sometime during the last 24 hrs! My temp had been holding steady at 36.5, then this morning a good jump up to 36.85! Very pleased to see that rise I'll be heading to the tww thread now, so ......... i actually have a vague recollection of a dream i had a few nights ago where i saw two lines on a hpt!! Hope to see the both of you in the tww thread shortly! Best wishes to you, and have a lovely christmas

[Kristen160]

Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and like alot of you are taking Clomid.....first cycle. I have a few questions that I'm a bit unsure of. I had to take 5 days of Primulot tablets to start my period then following on days 5-9 took 50mg of Clomid. Ive been using maybe baby salivia tests to see when to pinpoint the time of ovulation. I'm now on day 17 and nothing is showing!!!! What do I do if I don't ovulate and don't get a period in regards to starting the 2nd cycle. That and does anyone know if the medication can give a false reading on ovulation teats?? Sorry to ask so many queations but I'm a little confused. Ive had some cramping on one side the last 2 days...could this mean ovulation. Ive been tracking my temp to and it is still steady.
Can anyone help.

[nicjay]

Hi ladies, how are you all?

teresep - yay for O! All the best for your TWW, hope to be joining you in a few more days Hope you have a nice Christmas and that we all get a lovely New Years present.

KellyD - I'm not having scans either, just had a CD21 prog done last month (which was 50, so a good result) and don't even have to have that done this month. But it sounds like your case is a lot different to mine, as I don't have PCOS. I definitely think that some drs treat patients with Clomid a lot more conservatively than others - I guess it depends on why you are taking the Clomid in the first place - my dr is pretty "hands off" I guess. Good luck again for today.

Kristen160 - Hi and welcome I haven't used Maybe Baby, so can't really comment on that sorry, I just use OPKs, temp and CM observations. I just checked my OPK leaflet and it says not to use them within 3 days of your last tab as it may cause false positive results, I am on day 11 today and am starting OPKs today (I take Clomid CD1 to 5). Are you getting a CD21 progesterone test done this cycle? If so that will tell you if you ovulated or not - as I said above my dr did it first cycle to check that the Clomid was working as it should and that the dose did not need to be increased. I'd be waiting until about CD35 if I were you and if AF hasn't arrived I'd do a HPT and contact your FS as to what to do next. I had cramping last month before O, so that may be a good sign, are you checking CM too? I'd start OPKing if I were you too - I start when I either see incresed CM or I get to day 11. I HTH and good luck with it all!

[TaRhLi.]

Hi everyone,

Well my scan yesterday was not so good for me, at day 10 have 5 leading follicles (between 18 - 22mm) each so this cycle has been cancelled due to too high risk for excessive multiples. Am also having to spend next few days at home resting as I am showing signs of Hyperstimulation.

So now have to wait for O to occur for the Hyperstimulation to subside and then next cycle reduce Clomid back down to 25mg as it appears the 50mg did too much. If the 25mg next cycle doesn't work then will probably have to start on injections so the dosage can be managed better.

Kristen160 - I was the same as you having to take Primulot for 5 days to start my period for the first clomid cycle (due to not having a regular cycle). I take Clomid day 2 - 6, and in my first cycle of 25mg had scan at day 10 to see if clomid worked (no leading follicles), as nothing promising had another scan at day 14 (still no leading follicle). So O did not occur in first cycle and no period at day 28, I rang my clinic who advised to wait till day 35. Still nothing at day 35. Was told to wait until day 42 and if nothing to start Primulot again. Period started at day 40, so started Clomid day 2 - 6 @ 50mg. This is the cycle I am now in with the 50mg being too much. I was advised that the probable reason for the delayed period from cycle 1 was due to the lack of O and as my body doesn't have a regular cycle it is still trying to figure everything out. Fingers crossed this cycle it starts between days 28 - 35, so I can start again on the lower dose. I also had the mild cramping in my first cycle, but this appears to be not because of a leading follicle but because in cycle 1 I had around 30 small follicles grow. So the cramping was from the growth of too many small follicles. I have also had cramping pain this cycle and that is because now I have 5 enlarged follicles. If in doubt call your clinic and ask all the questions. I am probably lucky as my FS clinic are really supportive and I can call them anytime with questions.

teresep - fingers crossed for you that your Christmas wish comes true.