Hmmm...thread seems to have got off topic a bit - I still think the Strider Plus looks a great P&T alternative with lots of options to personalise as lots of people (me included) LOVE the option of a travel system/bassinette but you don't have to buy it tall (the accessories) to still have a great pram for 1 or 2 kiddies. I am wondering if getting UTD cos I want a new pram (even tho I love the one I have) is a but extreme tho! (only joking - no plans for #2 quite yet LOL)