No respite until next year.....

[Arimeh]

Yeah I got no ideas either

And even if I had some suggestions - you would have tried them already.

I hope you can get in to see someone sooner - and I wish I was there so her and Aricyn could run amok together and we could have some.. drinkies...

[Lulu]

Trill, he is half the problem. He is just LOUD LOUD LOUD, totally doesn't understand about the need for a tight routine. He does help all he can and often ends up walking her in the pram at 10.30pm. We are both at wits end and I've asked that he doesn't come over for a full week so I can tackle it on my own *sob.

[Jennifer13]

Trill, he is half the problem. He is just LOUD LOUD LOUD, totally doesn't understand about the need for a tight routine. He does help all he can and often ends up walking her in the pram at 10.30pm. We are both at wits end and I've asked that he doesn't come over for a full week so I can tackle it on my own *sob.

You can do it. Lulu. Night time does not sound like the right time for him to come and help. But it must be tricky as I'm guessing he doesn't have a stack of free time during the day. He needs to respect your rules, otherwise, how can you expect Beth to? Sounds like you've already tried to sort out some aspects of the problem.

[Pretty Butterfly]

Oh hon....

I only have one suggestion, and a good chance it wont work, sorry.....

Can you shake her up, and start all over??

Move the furniture in her room around, and put new covers on the bed. Buy a 2 big kids clocks, and put some stickers on.

One for nap, two stickers, (up and down time)eg, sticker at 12.00 and 2.30....

One for bed, two stickers, (up and down times) Show her her sleep times...and show her the sticker time when you get her up, lots of praise...

She can take her blanket to bed of course....

And when she comes out, she goes straight back in...even if it takes till the 2.30!!

If she sleeps AT ALL, she gets a sticker etc for being sooo good.....

It would take awhile, but could get her into a good routine, IF it works....

thats all I got babe, sorry.....

[Lulu]

One more thing thats going to pee me right off - when I went to sleep school when Mitch was 3 months the place was full of women with MINOR problems with their kids. Out of the 8 or so of us that were there, 2 of us actually had real sleep issues.
Seriously, whilst I was up every hour trying to resettle EVERYONE else was quite happily going to bed and sleeping through the night. Most of them had problems getting the child down for a day sleep. BIG FRICKEN DEAL.

so now there is a waiting list of MONTHS and if and when I get there its full of minor issues I'm gonna go off my tree, I really mean it.

I'll be back later to reformulate a plan using some of these responses. I really appreciate it xoxoxoxo

[Jennifer13]

so now there is a waiting list of MONTHS and if and when I get there its full of minor issues I'm gonna go off my tree, I really mean it.

You won't need sleep school, Lulu. (Sounds like it was a great place ) You CAN do this and you will. I really hope your new plan gives you some much-needed strength and resolve! Let us know what it is!

[Lulu]

WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT - I forgot to ask for a referral for Beth at the Drs today .

I think the first step is to clear Dp out of the way PROPERLY. Yes he lives miles away but when he is working around this area he 'pops in' and doesn't leave for days, or forgets to catch the bus home, or whatever. I think I'm happy for the help but he doesn't actually help at all. I'm pretty sure he has adult ADD (not joking), he simply cannot concentrate on anything. One minute he is getting Mitch in the shower, next he is in the vegie patch at 8pm, then he is feeding the dogs .

Last weekend Dp took them up to his place and I was supposed to get some rest ready to take her on this week but they both got so very ill and thats out the window now. I might see if they can try again this weekend just so I can catch up (I'm totally fine during the day - I thrive on sunlight!) and be ready, get her bedroom sorted nicely.

They are both resting on the couch now, I hope she sleeps even though its getting a little late in the day...bugger it all.

[Astrid]

huge sweetie. Gosh can't really add more than what has been said. The whole sleep school thing seems like a pain. I can see why they are full, the moment someone's baby/toddler is unsettled for a couple of days, someone will always suggest sleep school for them

We will be getting the spare bedroom set-up soon, so if you want a cheap holiday come down here. The kids can get together and run themselves ragged chasing the animals. You need a break.