Thanks for the quick replies girls.

I've already tried the sitting in the room thing. It drove me nuts but I did it anyway, and I did have good success....for awhile.

Its all been a house of cards around here. See they have started daycare therefore they have brought back any number of viruses and they have both been sick on and off for WEEKS. So that threw everthing out the window big time. So of course since I have been working Im at the point of exhaustion when I get home. Then this starts. Then it gets harder to get 2 little ones to bed with they are sick. Then they both got clingier.

I get that things will blow out their routines but surely this is a part of normal, everyday life? I first thought that with Dp leaving for half the week it would have affected them, but ffs - there are FIFO families...do they have these problems too with things constantly changing?

I know I've got a handle on parenting ok? Seriously I have a 16 yr old asleep right now that never had any of these problems. No wonder I wanted 5 - I thought ALL babies were that easy.....

Fark, Im so tired.