We are struggling big time here, lots of yelling because I am at the end of my rope so I know something has to give and am about to sit my squids down for a family meeting tonight to talk about our family and how it should work and run and wanted some help from you lovely people.

A few questions and ideas about natural consequences.

What are the consequences for a bad attitude and talking back. DS (4.5) has this habit of starting all sentences with NO but etc. it's doing our head in, we often need him to do something simple - like brush teeth, toilet, put on pjs etc. and its followed up with NO.... What can we do here?

Both kids are talking/arguing back whenever we ask them to do ANYTHING = could be as simple as get your shoes on so we can go to the rockpools - special outing and both were excited but do you think they could get their shoes on? Do we just warn once and then not go if they don't do it? Maybe we are being too soft.

Lots of wrestling going on and we warn them to stop before they get hurt but they ignore. What is the consequence here? Let it go til they do get hurt? Not sure I am prepared to do that plus I think if we ask them something reasonable they should do it. Not mindless obedience but if we ask politely and calmly for them to stop something we expect them to stop.

DD fell off a stool and scraped her arm today= not sure how many times we have told them not to monkey around in their room and climbing up on that stuff isn't allowed, I comforted her but also let her know yes it will hurt and that is why we ask that they should listen and not climb. Felt like I was saying - serves you right even though I didn't say it.

Rambling a bit now but am seriously over the ignoring, attitude and talking back and need help please!!!