What do you think?

[aussienic]

A friend posted a link to a blog on Fb today asking thoughts on this

Basically this woman has 6 children (very cute ones too) 1 is adopted.

She has a sit time thing. She trains her children to sit still for certain periods of time. She has a timer and starts with 10-15 mins and if they move ect she uses a "tool of correction" on them.

She claims she has them "trained" to sit still for an hour or more at church and other functions. they are allowed to have books (bible study books) and blankies ect but they are not allowed to move.

When going out for the first time after a training session she has the timer and the "tool of correction" clearly visible so the children know what is expected of them

now i have nothing wrong with the "training" side of things. I would use a different technique. I personally think explaining to children what you would like them to do and maybe practicing at home is fine but I don't agree with the tool of correction.

That is what she calls it so I don't know what it is exactly but it is used for smacking if they don't sit still for the required amount of time

What do you think? agree or disagree? would you consider this a form of child abuse or just discipline that is a little over the top?

[Catastrophic]

Disagree...
Thats just so bizarre. I can't get my head wrapped around it enought to give you a proper reply.

[megs]

Disagree.....

I too can't quite get my head around it. Whilst I'm all for children learning that when they are in certain places, e.g church, restaurants etc their is a type of behaviour expected from them I would never dream of making them practice it at home under the fear of a "tool of correction"

Bizarre alright

[aussienic]

I don't neccessarily (sp) disagree with the practice at home. Like if I was going to a formal wedding for example and the kids were invited I would sit them down at home and explain what i wanted them to do and what the bride and groom expected of their guests and maybe even say lets sit down for a few minutes and pretend we are at the wedding but I would never smack them if they didn't get it right. If they played up I would take them outside. and besides that I have taken my children to events like that and out to dinner and they sit perfectly without even "practicing" at home.

It really is the most bizarre thing and I don't think they are trained I personally think they are scared

[Catastrophic]

I'm all for telling kids how to behave and what is expected.

But I would never make them practice for up to an HOUR, and then if they don't get it right, belt them one, thats just using fear and power, which i don't think parenting is.

[beckoes]

i dont like the sound of it atall. sit still or you get beaten? they must be too terrified to move.

[Cherished]

It really is the most bizarre thing and I don't think they are trained I personally think they are scared

yep. I doubt the kids will see it as "tool of correction" when they are older but will see it for what it is, something that they get hit with if they don't sit still. Besides children don't sit still and they find it hard to be quiet, I don't think there's any need to go that far even if they are somewhere that requires them to be on their best behaviour. If adults want kids at a wedding or church or anywhere else then they should expect wriggling and noise and possibly even disruption. What kind of power tripping parent makes their kids practice for up to an hour?

[MummaBee]

Im sick of people judging other peoples parenting yes it sounds harsh but it sounds a bit over the top and like we dont know all the facts too. With my first kid all i continually worried about is what people thought of me as a mother and its because everyones continually judging people. If you havnt seen her hitting them than i think its silly to jump to conclusions. Caught me at a bad moment lol

[Pandora]

Maybe who was asking for it? I hope you don't mean the 18month old??

I agree with Cherished1 when someone posts a thread asking opinion, then as a reader you should expect to read an opinion.

Why not post yours rather than being upset by other peoples'?

[*Sparklez*]

Being a mother with very rowdy children and a son with ADHD, I can say I would never resort to this.
Children are children, and more and more these days time is flying by and most children don't even get to enjoy childhood before they are made to act 10x their age, that too me is sad.
I'm sorry but taking pics of belting, and an obviously distraught 18 month old IS abuse, no matter which wu you try and justify it..
This lady obviously thinks she is doing the right thing but
Let's say a law enforcement seen this, she would be charged and definently, well more than likely have child services on her back, worse case lose her children all together, she adopted a child? I don't think anyone would of given her that child If they knew this such thing was taking place.
I'm sorry judging or not judging this woman needs to be judged and corrected, I'm all for discipline but not to humiliate and punish a child on a world wide source. Eg. The Internet.
This is wrong and if I ever seen this I would report it. One smack can do harm that last a life time not to mention become fatal.


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[loulabelle]

Not something I'd do that's for sure. I haven't seen the blog so can't really say what I think. It's sounds a little weird though.


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[aussienic]

As Andie said it is the technique she disagrees with and thats what I think as well. I just don't get it. If you want to read through the blog I can PM it to you. It is an interesting read. Generally some bits are ok but some bits were really weird to me. Like the mum taking time out to pray ect when the day gets to tough. (she goes to her room to pray to get through the day) I have nothing against praying but she seemed a little over the top with it.

She does say though that she speaks in a quiet calm voice and I also know words on a screen can be taken in many different ways

[loulabelle]

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[Starfish]

Can you PM the link too please...

I find it hard to understand why anyone would work so hard just to make a child do something that is unnatural to them (i.e. sitting still for long periods of time), rather than working WITH the child and expecting something apporpriate for their stage of development (e.g. playing quietly or something...). But I'd like to actually see it before I comment any further.

[onthefly]

What on earth is a tool of correction?
I couldn't sit still for an hour like that, and asking your average kid to do it is just unreasonable.

[Catastrophic]

What on earth is a tool of correction?
I couldn't sit still for an hour like that, and asking your average kid to do it is just unreasonable.

sounds like a smacking tool :-(

[aussienic]

Can you PM the link too please...

I find it hard to understand why anyone would work so hard just to make a child do something that is unnatural to them (i.e. sitting still for long periods of time), rather than working WITH the child and expecting something apporpriate for their stage of development (e.g. playing quietly or something...). But I'd like to actually see it before I comment any further.

Just sending the link now.. Sorry I didn't see the message till now

[glorious]

it is a little upsetting but perhaps she is an EZZO fan? so while she loves her children and has a huge faith in her christianity she is choosing some not so "nice" aspects to parent with.

i dont think everyone has the tools all the time to be the worlds best parents.. i am sure the kids will give it back to her at some point in the future..