DIET - genetically modified foods in pregnancy

[tinkerbelle]

It is the GM feed that the meat growers feed the animals that you should try and avoid - so yes you are right, no meat is genetically modified itself, although who knows in the future? I trust the Greenpeace true food guide on which brands to avoid and which to buy.. not anything said by the food manufacturers and breeders.

[Trillian]

So you won't take my word for it then? Obviously I can't vouch for all meat producers like us, but you really need to clarify that and do some of your own research before you make such bold statements. I wouldn't be trusting Greenpeace 100% either, just as I wouldn't trust PETA because their business is to spread lies and propaganda to suit themselves. Just google PETA and muelsing and you will see what I mean. I'm not saying that you shouldn't make every effort to avoid it if you want to do that, but I am saying that you should educate yourself further than taking Greenpeace's word as gospel so you aren't taken for a ride and ripped off and sold something that doesn't exist.

[tinkerbelle]

I've been researching this personally for two years, I am happy with what I have learned thankyou. And no, I dont take the word of food suppliers, why would I? - most of them only care about making a buck, not about my personal health. Greenpeace has strict criteria for what they allow onto their list as well so I am happy to trust them.

[turtleschell]

Thanks for this, I had no idea!
Looks like I won't be using Leggos anymore

[Trillian]

And the people who produce food to meet a particular market such as yourself aren't out to make a buck either? Because I'm sure they aren't doing it for free. Can your butchers tell you with 100% certainty that the meat the sell isn't fed gm food? Do they personally know their suppliers and what they feed their stock, are their suppliers 100% certain that the feed they use isn't derived from GM crops?

ETA - I just checked out the true food link and all they list in their 'red' category for meat are;
Pace Farm Eggs
Baiada
Bartter Enterprises
Inghams
Steggles
Sunnybrand Chickens
Don Smallgoods
KR Castlemaine
Primo Smallgoods
Watsonia

so there is no mention there of beef or lamb at all? And those on the green list, how can you be sure that your butcher is sourcing it from those places? I ask because at times business may change suppliers and you may not know that they have so you may not be getting what you pay for.

ETA #2, I find it somewhat amusing and possibly hypocritcal that the true food network, run by GREENPEACE lists NESTLE products on its GREEN list!!!! Definitely not credible in my eyes now.

[tinkerbelle]

I tend to eat chicken and fish only anyway, thats my personal choice for the above reasons you pointed out..
What the? Me? A food producer for a particular market? You got to be kidding.. Im just an educated consumer..
I find it somewhat amusing that a food supplier seems to have taken so much offense to my post... when I was only trying to provide information that might be of help to others.. but what more could you expect really.
After all - if consumers know the truth about their foods, and make educated choices, food suppliers will no longer be able to cut corners and make unethical decisions. That is my hope for the future, and my purpose for writing this post.

[Trillian]

All I am trying to say is that not all food producers are the bad guys. We are a small family run business. We don't earn millions of dollars a year and we don't have to perform to increase returns to shareholders. And yes, you do fit into a 'market' whether you like it or not - as does anyone who prefers to buy a certain product. Yes you are an informed consumer, but you are able to find the products you want because the producers of those products have realised that there is a market for organic food, or food free from GM so they are going to cater for it and source, grow or sell the foods you want. So I'm not taking offense, but I am trying to educate as well by saying that some of what you said is misinformed and explain why so that others can make their own decisions. I'm just like you, trying to make sure that consumers know the truth about food . You should pop into the Ethical and aware living forum and see what discussions we have had there as well.

[Phteven]

PMSL @ Nestle being 'green'. I guess that if the destruction of rain-forests, dumping formula on the 3rd world and using child slaves for chocolate is green then me and Greenpeace have different ideas about what constitutes being green.