Oh by the way, I'm talking about a walk behind walker. Jazzy could never go forwards in her little steelcraft aeroplane sit in walker either. We got ours second hand and really thought it was a second hand dud, but alas, it were our little Possum. she never really got into the jolly jumper or jump n spin pink plastic monstrosity that takes up half the room, so I guess it's just horses for courses and like I said, any present he can use and enjoy will be a great present. I'm glad to hear it worked so well for your little Jazzy, Janie. Maybe we will try again at Christmas.