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    Hi Sazz - it's lovely to see you again and hear all about your gorgeous girl. She's soooo sweet!

    Hi BW - hope you guys are doing well.

    Glad you and Adam are settling in well Neptune and sounds like the feeding setup you've got there suits you well. If you get your 'baby things' done for the day then you're good, don't worry about anything else.

    Kelly, I absolutely agree with BG - just gotta ride it out hon. If she needs to be with you and that allows you both to get the most sleep, then do it. Slings/wraps/carriers are great for babies at this age to get some sleep & maybe even get some other stuff done while they sleep. And in the early months they are very prone to getting overtired - and overtired babies do not sleep well (if at all). I know it makes no sense, but that's just the way it is



    It's just a few weeks out of your life, then it too will pass

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    Kelly - Sorry I'm a bit pushed for time, but I just wanted to say that there were times when I just let DS sleep on me - in the HAB, or on my chest while I 'watched' telly or in bed with me. If that's what it took, then that's what I did. I didn't start out like that - but I found that I was frazzled and exhausted and I would do anything for him to sleep. And sometimes, I would nod off too. DS co-slept more than i thought he would. Sometimes just in between feeds or sometimes almost all night. It wasn't in my 'plan' but I just ended up doing whatever seemed to be working (which changes all the time). I think it just pays to remember that they are still so young and some babies sleep all night alone in their cots - and other's don't.
    Gradually things will improve - but I think you need to feel ok about taking your cues from DD, and doing whatever feels right to you.


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    BG, Marcellus & Lenny

    Thanks so much for your advise and encouragement, it has been invaluble these past few days while I was struggling to make sense of what was going on.

    I am happy to report we have a breakthrough. Tara has slept in her cot for her afternoon nap and is again asleep now in her cot after her evening feed. It appears that she doesn't like lying flat on her back to sleep as when I put her down she would start to wake up, so as much as I don't want to do it I have propped her up slightly on a flat pillow and she has gone off like a dream. I think she might have freaked herself out the other day when she did a massive vomit when laying flat in her cot and ended up when it all over her face.

    When DH gets home from work tonight, we are going to try and place some pillows under her cot mattress to try and lift it slightly. I have got online and ordered a Cot Wedge, so will have to improvise until it arrives (hopefully soon). Fingers crossed we are on the downward slope now and that she sleeps well tonight as I am really struggling with the very limited sleep at the moment.

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    Cool bananas Kelly! Hope you get some sleep

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    Kelly,

    I used to have to sleep Jasmine on a bit of an angle as she was a very colicy baby - so would have sore tummy's a lot. Lying flat just did not work for her. I placed towels under her bassinet mattress to get a small angle happening and that seemed to work.

    Hope Tara's good sleep continues!

    AFU - well Jasmine has decided to start practising moving in her sleep. Last night she keep waking up as she had moved onto her tummy and was trying to crawl! So that is a new one to add to our sleep problems... hopefully she will get the hang of it soon and will stop the nighttime antics - although it is so cute that she is doing it, it worries me that she will get stuck or something.

    Hi to everyone else - hope you are all well. Got to run - little miss is waking up.

    Janie xxx

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    DS was and still is a side sleeper. He slept a million times better on his side than on his back. I know that some people don't recommend it - but it worked for us. We used a rolled up towel against his back for support and he would be quite content.

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    Well I got some more sleep last night, more than DH. DH was stuck at work late and didn't get home until 11.30pm so missed the last night feed which he normally does, so he elected to do the 2.30am feed. Well after that feed DH couldn't get her back to sleep and then she became an overtired baby (which he didn't know how to deal with) so at 3.30am I stepped in to quiet her down which took almost an hour an then into our bed to sleep.

    As DH is home today for Ballarat Cup public holiday, I thought I would get out on my own and do the groceries while he looked after Tara. When I got home he told me that she screamed for about an hour before she settled in his arms, I think she missed me, and to try and get her to settle he gave her a small feed only an hour after her previous feed. So now I am back to a clingy baby that wants small feeds as her feeding pattern has been mucked up. Grrrr, I know he was trying to do what's best but now I'm dealing with the consequences.

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    Hi Everyone

    Firstly I must apologise for highjacking this thread, my post are so all about me at the moment, but hopefully things are on the improve so hopefully will be more sharing soon.

    Anyway, another me post now... I am celebrating this morning.... It is called getting 8 hours sleep . After the shocking day yesterday and I think 5 days of Tara being so unsettled and not sleeping very much (as per the bags under her eyes.. not to mention mine) she had a feed at 5pm yesterday and went to be for about 45mins, she then woke up screaming but I just picked her up, got some more wind up and she went back to sleep in my arms at around 6.15pm. So back in the cot and there she slept until 11.00pm, then fed and everyone was back asleep by 12.30am. I was dreading her then waking up at 2.30am for her next feed, but she slept through until 4.45am. Another feed, back to sleep and then up at 8.15am. She is now back in bed for her morning nap, so hopefully we are on the improve with both sleep and hopefully starting to move away from 8 feeds a day to hopefully 6.

    I was reading up on overtired babies yesterday so am trying the 1hour feed, play, sleep routine with her (although just feed, sleep at night). As soon as I notice she is getting tired back in bed she goes and even if she grizzles I let her be, only going in every 10 minutes or so to make her know that I'm around and to replace the dummy and give her a head massage if unsettled. It seems to be working as she is dropping off to sleep on her own without me having to constantly hold her. We will just have to see how she goes over the next few days.

    Oh, going to be a hot on today.. So an inside day for sure with a/c on and all blinds closed. This should help with the sleeping as well as with the blinds closed the house can be pretty dark.

    Hope everyone is going good and if you are where the heat is, I hope you and your littles ones can stay cool.

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    Good to get some sleep Kelly!

    A is off for the day with his granma and auntie. I am working

    It is cold and wet here.

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    sleep makes everything seem less overwhelming doesn't it Kelly? dont' feel bad for speaking about yourself for asking questions - you're a new mum - we've all been there hun!

    E is just waking so i best dash - looking forward to that cooler weather hitting her Marcellus...

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    Sounds like things are working out better now Kelly. that's great! I found Celeste didnt like to be flat on her back either. She had a hammock though so already her bed wasnt flat. We also put rolled up towells (well cloth nappies actually) under the top of her change mat to help cause I'd change her right before going to bed and didnt want any colicky/refluxy thing to start just before going to bed.

    I have a friend with an 8week old who wouldnt sleep anywhere but on her also. She ended up going to the specialist place you stay at in SA for help for 3nights and they helped get her night routine better but she still stays in her arms all day. I'd forgotten about some of the things I did for Celeste but reading here has given me some more ideas to suggest to her! So thanks people, and thanks Kelly for posting it in here!

    Celeste has had a rough couple of nights with the heat here. It's been over 35C everyday for 11 days with the last few 43C. Blah!!!! She is hot from teething too. I had her in bed with me last night again but I dont sleep well cause she insists on being on top of me. Plus my tonsils are up again. Ah, enough grizzles from me, I've got it pretty good really.

    I took Celeste to her daycare lady today. I had talked about it from when we got up so she knew we were going and she lined up at the door, keen to go, saying "Kathryn?". All the way in the car she was saying "Kathryn,... love". I wondered if she was saying "leaf" as she had picked some up on the way to the car so I asked her but she was definately saying "love". I just had to tell her when we got there. I'm so glad she really likes her. Acutally she didnt want to come home!

    Bushfire started in the national park here overnight from the lightening we had. It's threatening 20 houses. Scary stuff!

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    Hello - only have a few mins so just wanted to post a quick message to Kelly - a towel rolled up under the cot mattress and also the change table mat does wonders for babies that are hypervigelent due to reflux etc...it helps Archer settle. Not sure if you are wrapping Tara, but a light cotton muslin wrap might help her settle if she is still having her arms/legs go everywhere - the startle reflex is with them for a few more weeks, so that could help! Sounds like you are doing a great job and that she is starting to sort out a good sleep pattern - hope the night sleep stays as you do feel a heap better with a good nights sleep..oh, for my shower, I put Archer in his rocker or on a mat in the bathroom while I have a shower - that way he can see me and I can have a shower without worrying that he is upset...makes shower time sooooo much more enjoyable!

    Hope that everyone else is doing ok in this heat!

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    Hi Everyone

    After celebratign 8 hours sleep, we have taken a few steps backwards today. Yesterday was perfect with only 6 feeds and sleeps etc, but last night I got about 4 1/2-5 hours and today has been a nightmare.

    Tara had a feed at 4.30am and then woke up at 6.30am so I got DH to put her in bed with us (the only way to make her sleep longer) and she slept until 8.30am. However since 8.30am and her feed she stayed awake grizzling, crying and only cat napping and having a further 3 feeds up to 12.30pm. I have to be careful about how much I feed her though as she is prone to projectile vomit if I give her too much, so because she keeps wanting more and more to eat I had to give her lots of smaller feeds so they stayed down. She finally slept from approx 1pm to 2.30pm when she woke up for another feed and it is now 4.30pm and fingers crossed she seems to have just dropped off. She is so tired and the bags under her eyes are getting bigger, but she just gets so overtired and as much as I try and passify and calm her down she fights going to sleep so much.

    FG, I have been swaddling her still but only from under her arms down. She likes to have her legs covered but if I wrap up her arms she will scream and fight for what seems like ages to get her arms free as she likes to sleep with them above her head (every scan from 11 weeks onwards always showed her hands above her head). That is the main reason we have put her into her cot as she kept hitting the sides of her bassinet when asleep and waking herself up.

    I have found that propping her up has helped heaps, we have her sleeping between a baby support as well so that she can't slide down or slip to one side or the other and possibly get caught under any of her blankets (which we will need for her over the next few days as the weather is going to get cold again). Only positive move forward we have made is that she still likes to fall asleep being held, but we can generally put her into the cot once she is alseep and she will stay asleep (so long as she is happy to continue sleeping that is).

    Ah, thank god it's friday as DH generally will do the last late night feed and first early morning feed for me so I can get some sleep. Hopefully she doesn't play up like last time when I had to get up anyway to soothe her as she was too overtired.

    Thanks for all your support everyone. It has been a very tiring and trying week for me and with no other support (apart from DH) you have all been my sanity and kept me going.
    Last edited by TaRhLi.; November 20th, 2009 at 03:41 PM. Reason: sleep deprived spelling mistakes

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    Spoke to soon...

    She didn't sleep but whinged and wanted another feed, so that's already 8 feeds since 1am this morning totalling 590mls already with still another possible 2 feeds to go.

    And surprise, surprise, she is awake and showing no signs of wanting to sleep. I am seriously going to lose my mind at this rate.

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    This too will pass Kelly.
    It's impossible to have any perspective when you're sinking in sleep deprivation, but I promise you this is but a short part of your life. Do whatever makes things easier and gives you and Tara the most rest. Yay for Friday's and extra DH help

    Oh, and at this age with her immature digestive system and all she might be more comfortable with more frequent, smaller feeds. She may also be having a growth spurt. Hang in there - if she doesn't want to sleep, maybe take her for a walk or stick her in the sling and do something else for a while

    That's so lovey that she loves her carer Sazz! Hope you're both feeling better soon and stay safe from the fires.

    DS signed I love you the other day

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    Just thought I'd pop my head in and say to everyone. I'm so sorry I haven't been in here for such a long time.
    So many new "faces" which is just wonderful to see and that this thread is moving again.

    I have to admit that I haven't read up on what you are all up to but I do promise I will do that soon.

    Just to give you a little update on us though....DS is now 2 years old and he's just absolutely delightful. He lights up mine and DH's life every single day.
    We are also back ttc #2. We have been "officially trying since September but in saying that we've never ever prevented it since having Sage. I've been to see my Ob/Gyn and have had monthly progesterone tests and I've "o'd" each time but still no pregnancy. My Dr gave me a Clomid script back in September but I've been very apprehensive about starting it as I hyperstimulated when ttc Sage and I honnestly don't want that to happen again if I can help it. So I'm off to have a scan done on the 2/12 to see if I have any signs of any cysts and will go from there if I'm not preg by then.
    So thats my little bit for now and I promise I'll try and pop in and be more up to date on everyone very very soon

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    Hang in there Kelly! Thinking of you. I'm not sure what else to say to help though...

    Aw that's gorgeous Marcellus! Celeste wont do that I dont think as she tends to talk now more than sign. She says "Love" though and only a few weeks back said "I luff" to me when I said it to her. ♥

    Hi Mako!! Best of luck with the natural TTC. hoping it happens for you very very soon so you dont need to balance that tricky med taking. 2/12 is not far off so hope you get some good answers quickly!

    Celeste is talking up a storm lately with several new words every day. She is on again/off again with the toilet training so that will be a while away me thinks and she definately isnt interested in her big girls bed yet. She now has a very flat feather pillow in her cot though so progressing to the bed slowly. She was so cute today when her very best friend was sad at swimming, comforting him with pats and hair stroking! And they had lots of kisses after. CUTE!

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    Hi Ladies

    Sorry i have been so slack it has been such a busy time for us at the moment

    Welcome Kelly, hope Tara settles for you soon and you enjoy manyt more of those nights of 8 hours sleep!

    Sazz - Beautiful about the carer, hope everything is okw ith the bushfires?

    Mako - Good luck hope this TTC journey is short and sweet! 2 1/2 already that has gone so quickly!

    Marcellus - Wow always interested in signing but never had enough time, what a beautiful moment for the two of you!

    FG - Just realised today is 12 months since your BFP woohoo!

    Huge hello to everyone else

    Well i am now the proud mother of walking talking 1 year olds and it just blows my mind! Kids turned 1, two weeks ago and were spoilt rotten very emotional but so proud of my clever monkeys.
    Also our first IVF cycle turned out to be a complete rollercoaster from 1 egg to 12 and then then not growing properly due to a cyst (which they thought was the initial 1 egg) so 24 injections and then we were cancelled. So we are now right in the middle of another stim cycle which is much harder when you have kids organising appointments, EPU etc. But hopefully 1st time lucky We will see...

    Shan
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