Pregnancy after Miscarriage or Loss ~ February 2011

Thanks for thinking of me and my wee one.. it was hard and sad, but time. Feeling pretty numb really.

Forshelby - it IS so hard at the end... all those discomforts, the moodiness, the anxiety, the unkown .... you're so normal I just want to give you a hug. I am sorry that DP wigged out and ended up making things harder on you. About the hospital? First of all - sorry that the Dr was inappropriate. Honestly, it's not appropriate to talk like that to you about another patient.

About your vibe? I saw a lot of women go weak at the knees when we did our tour of the birthing suites.... we'd already been in there for two births before the tour. LOL. But I saw most of the women and some of the men just go weak at the knees, get all jittery and fidgettey and uncomfortable. So I think it must be kinda normal? My experiences have been different.

But think of it this way... that is the room in which you are going to meet your little one and go through what is the most wonderous experience ever, to give birth.

Ferrals - I am with Mildez - come to my house and do my housework please? Sorry you are bored, and congrats on being RAK'ed x2... I don't think it means 2 years - I was RAK'ed x 2 last year and it's expiring this year... but nice to dream.

T - hopes - hope you are feeling all dolled up now after your do.

TegamM - enjoy camping you brave soul... I have thought about trying to do it with Hannah... but only thought about it so far.

Reet - my cousin is a telco rigger too, always away. It's a tough job, and not for the feint of heart. Not long til you see him again.

India's Mum - YAY on such a good scan - congrats! You must be so happy, and anxious all at once.

Alish - well done!

Jenna - how is that GD going? Look at you 35 weeks now... with a little purple bundle. Set up the nursery? How is DS coping with your expanding belly?

Angel - thinking of you and Honor.

Sunshine - thinking of you and Obie. Hope you are getting through... any news on when Obie will come home?

Sorry if I've missed anyone... time for me to duck off now.

Forshelby and Dory you have me thinking about what I should do differently when I'm giving someone a tour of labour ward. I don't want to frighten the poor mummies to be away.

Forshelby-aww god love ya girl ramble away you have every right to bloody men!
And G strings i just have always worn i hate the undies creeping up your bum half the side in and half the side out so may aswell have all in hehehehe.
Surfboards:rolleyes: how gross are they you feel every drip and gush and ooze so foul i used them when i first got my AF at 11 i lasted 2 days then snuck into my sisters draw stole a tampon went next door to the local park toilets and practiced until i got it right and have never gone back to surfies except when i have had kids.

baahah what the hell went on in here today, wet bum cracks and smoodgy vag's... i cracked up laughing!!

kellbell - its tomorrow at 2.20!!!

forshelby - how funny! mines a 2004 as well! is yours a turbo one and dusty blue colour, cuz that would be freaky! they re beautiful cars im in love with it, we loved the colour that much we flew to perth to buy it!!

hi dory, jenna, mildez, reet, t-hopes, indias mum, ferrals, tegam angelfish and anyone i forgot!!

boo, im due exactly one week before one of our goods friends wedding, and its on the gold coast so dh isnt sure we should go, i think we should and i really want to go!! i dont know what to doooooo!

Dory - Oh I'm so glad my moodiness and uneaziness is normal! I just dont want to do anything or see anyone. And DP has invited our friend over for dinner. I was ready to cry and have a meltdown but he offered to cook, so I guess I can be social in exchange for not having to cook. It was my GP who was cranky and inappropriate. I was surprised as he's normally excellent. I'll give him another chance cause I like him so much. I hope you had as good a day as possible yesterday, I was thinking of you all day. :hug: Thanks for your perspective on my birthing suite terror :) As usual I feel much better after some good ole Dory advice.

Mildez - There was nothing in particular that gave me the jibblies, I think it must be a natural reaction. The midwife doing the tour was sweet and funny and made us all feel relaxed, but that room just made everything so real. It's like the first time the dentist gets out the drill lol. You know it's nothing to be afraid of, yet you automatically quake in your boots. I bet your tours are just perfect. The fact that you even consider changing your 'routine' shows how considerate you are, and genuinely caring of others. That kind of attitude can't be faked, and your tourees most definitely would pick up on your good nature. :)

Oh so behind so i'll just attempt a random few persies:

India's mum: that's great news! So glad you got a good scan.
Forshelby: I remember when I was in labour with DD and first went into the labour room for an examination. I noticed one of those hospital baby cribs on wheels next to the bed and had this moment of panic when i thought: "Oh my G-d! The baby really does have to get from in here to out there somehow! There's no getting around it! So i get where you are coming from. But i have to say that the panic was brief. I didn't feel that way through most of the labour. You kind of deal with what you have to at the time and yes it is intense but as you get to the most intense part of labour i think your brain kind of goes into this more 'basic' or primitive mode (as i heard a doula once describe it and that is really what it felt like for me). Even without drugs you feel kind of out of it and you are not fully aware of how much time passes. It all feels a bit foggy and i think your body protects you in a way. It helps you manage. (I'll also say that i found a TENS machine helped a lot with pain management. The gas was also good for me).
Dory: Hugs to you for Amelia's birthday.
Alish: Good luck for your scan tomorrow. Oh, and as to your friend's wedding i know it's hard but it may not be very practical: If you are still pg the airlines probably won't let you fly (too pg) and if you have the baby, well it depends when the little one has arrived. You may be feeling tired and sore and not so much like packing bags of your stuff and baby for a two hour flight!
T-hopes: hello! Hope you enjoyed having your sparkles done!
Ferrals: Can't believe you were actually bored! What about a sleep? Oprah! (Just kidding ;) ) Oh, and I wish i could wear G-strings. I love the idea (feels like the sort of thing a sex goddess might wear) but i can't stand the permanent wedgie!
Reet: Must be hard with your DP away so much. Glad you'll get to do the birthing class together though. Oh, and i'm with forshelby: do some reading on active birth and maybe see if there are any classes via your hospital or local physios. I found that really helpful. The book i like was Juju Sundin's (with Sarah Murdoch).
Kellbell: what does the raspberry leaf tea do?
mildez: Glad you got to do a bit of nice shopping for bubs. Very glad you didn't get stranded for hours with a flat tyre. Sounds horrid. Yay for your dad!
Melster: Yay for the great scan! Oh and a little girl...lovely!
Sunshine: thinking of you and Obie
Angelfish: Hope you are feeling well and Honour is well and BF is still cooking you meals!
Tegam: Good to hear about someone juggling four kids ok. I am feeling a bit wobbly about the idea of two! (I really want two or even three but i'm feeling a bit scared: Like what have i got myself into and will i lose my mind? My DD can sometimes make me crazy all by herself. NOw she's going to have help!)

Clairesmummy: Thinking of you xx

Sorry if i've missed anyone

AFM: Feeling so tired, still tormented by vague pg cravings and aversions. But in one way i don't feel pg and it's a bit unsettling. I can't wait to feel movement! But i'm not complaining too much. Everything is peachy with my little peach as far as i know!

Possums - what an excellent effort at persies.... and I couldn't have said it better about labour.... we all find our own zone.... and Forshelby will be fine, she will find hers. I found the gas yukky, which surprised me. I want to try TENS next time. Congrats on being the most pregnant-est you've been since DD... that's awesome. I know it's hard at this stage when you don't really feel or look UTD. But you have a secret and special time with little peach right now... its just you and peachy and no -one else. That is soooo cool. You'll be an excellent mum to 2 or more..... some say it gets easier after 1!

Alish - I am with Possums - if you're flying most airlines won't fly you as you're to preg, but I would recommend you call to check, and if you travel by other mean car, bus or train - that's a long uncomfortable journey and then if the wee one is already here, sometimes in the baby moon phase things that seemed important to you before, just aren't anymore as you fall madly in love with that precious bundle that you have been entrusted with. Once when I was all betwixt and between about something one of my work colleagues said to me, rather bluntly but it got the message across... " it's not just about you anymore". I needed to hear that to just shift my focus.

Has anyone tried an EPI- NO - I think that what it's called - a little device that you insert into the vay vay jay ( I am trying to recall Ferrals word for it... and I know I didnt get it right) to try and stretch the perineum? Just curious if you have and what you thought and whether it worked.

hi possum! how are you going??

thanks dory & possum - we were always going to drive up - dh dosent like renting cars & for the price it would cost to drive to melb & airfares & car rental its probably cheaper to drive!
i would never be going if i was overdue.. its just a hard situation to predict, only cuz u cant!
i feel bad cuz we missed their dd christening & their engagement and they are really good friends of ours, we used to live together when we were up on the goldy!

but youre right dory, i need to think about baby, and it probs wont be the best time to travel so we probably wont go, maybe we could go up for a little holiday once baby is abit older, im sure they will understand!

eeek no more sleeps! we r soo excited! just hope everything is ok!

dory - ive never tried it or heard of it, why do u need to stretch it? lol im pretty dumb about womens stuff!

im not sure if ill have time to jump on bb and tell you how i went as we are supposed to be going camping this afternoon, but i will try.. so if not i hope you all have a wonderful friday & saturday and i will chat to you soon! xxx

Alish-good luck today although you wont need it you will do great and bub will be perfect.

Forshelby-I have had my moments of feeling moody and generally crappy and snappy then for some reason i just think about how lucky we are to have Ella on the way and what a miracle she is we won lotto and i snap myself out of it i can never ever say how life sux and why me again after what we have gone through and that puts a smile on my face and a spring in my step MY GIRL IS HEALTHY!

Possum-enjoy the room to move and try not to worry it wont be long before you cant breath properly cant bend cant get comfortable and have feet and knees and a little bum stuck under your ribs.

Dory-it wasnt me who referred to the epi no thats the little balloon thing to stretch your woohaa out no way would i use one i used olive oil with my 1st son and massaged the perineum and i have not had a single stitch with all my kids just grazes but i had little babies i wonder how i will go with little miss if she is going to take after her dad:shakehead: and i think she will be bigger than her brothers.
My referrence was to the u/s probe (the dildo cam) that we all love so much ewww.

AFM-I woke up this morning and a thought just popped into my head i will have a daughter to bring home within the next 4 weeks a newborn baby girl after 13 years and 3 teenage boys i am so excited i am doing this again pinch me please is it real is my dream coming true?

Yeap your dream is coming true Ferrals definately. Just think it could very well only be 2weeks away (well that makes you term anyhow) I'm so excited for you and everyone else of course especially the March mummies as I'll be following shortly afterwards lol At 33weeks I still feel its ages away but I look at your ticker and your only a fortnight in front and think woow it wont be far away now. Actually its less then a month until I am term.

Alish thinking of you at your scan today but like Ferrals I think everything will be perfect.

How is our most pregnant lady Forshelby going today? Are you all ready for bubs grand entrance?

Not much to report from my end. A day of cleaning. I'd love to go through bubs things but DH will be in and out all day so I'll have to wait until I know he is away all day.

Ferrals its so real look at that gorgeous little face in your ticker - shes so close now

Rasberry leaf tea is supposed to make your contractions more productive - something like that. i never took it with ella but hoping for a better birth this time. What are some good books i can read someone mentioned some before but i can find the names of them now.

Im two weeks after you Mildez thats scary!!!!

Good luck alish with your scan today - it will be great im sure. i love the 12 week scan so so cute :D

Possum magic i agree on seeing the newborn bassinet it was so real that i was going to have a baby in it and i was going to have to push it out i can still remember that feeling.

Dory - Cant believe your Hannah is 5 months already. Ive never heard of that strecthing thing. Wonder if it works. I hope my ella has strected it enough for her brother lol

Forshelby what do you reckon your having? i reckon a little boy. How are your blood sugars going?

sorry to everyone i have missed. Ella has had enough of me on the computer time togo

Alish - thinking of you today... I am with Ferrals - no luck needed - your bubs will be gorgeous and healthy and you will be so excited that your feet won't touch the ground....GL camping. Oh, the perineum is the bit between the vay vay jay and your bot.. the short bit underneath in the nether regions. Some have the theory that if you massage it or use the epi no to stretch it there is less chance you'll need stitches. My Obs said that

Ferrals - yep dream come true, in no time at all you'll be enjoying your baby moon where apart from being an awesome mum your main job will be to just gaze at the perfection that is your little girl, and smile with pure joy. The epi no is basically to stretch the perineum, similar to massage. One of the ladies in my ante natal class bought one $180.... Glad you've never needed stitches or an episiotomy.

Mildez - you are so good cleaning. I think I am brilliant for hanging out one load of washing, putting another on, doing a little tidying and now resting.... why do you have to wait for Dh to be away all day to do bubs things? Look at you 33 weeks! Awesome.

Forshelby - I am with Mildez - oh glorious pregnant one! Hope the cooler weather is helping. Give that bump a big belly rub for me.

Ferrals - I forgot to respond to you last night..... I was EXACTLY the same during my 1st af. I cried and cried and asked mum if it was always so gross. (also only 11) Then my older sister came to the rescue with a pack of tampons. I've never looked back, lol. I think your perspective is awesome when it comes to snapping out of a crappy mood. I should be the same, really....... I'm taking this baby home! I think the fear of the unknown is getting to me a bit. I've never brought a baby home before. I should just relax... I have 3 nephews, a niece and an adopted niece..... plus 3 younger cousins. I have been around plenty of babies in my time. That's what I'll tell myself. 'Been there, done that... I just get to keep this one'. :D Oh, and *PINCH* yep, it's real.

Alish - LOL, yeah we get a bit crazy in here sometimes. :) No our car isn't a turbo, and it's silver..... but wow, pretty similar anyway! We stumbled across ours at the car auctions when we were 'just looking' and I instantly sold my car to get it.. lol. We're actually considering selling again though as it's quite expensive to maintain (as I'm sure you know........) and it really guzzles the juice. I'm not sure if you should be travelling all this way up to the GC a week before your due date either..... sorry! I assume you'd be driving?? Sounds a bit scary to me but I'm a worrier... hehe. good luck for today!!!!!!!!

Possum - Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, in my panicky state I forgot about everything I read which does say your mind kind of shuts down to a certain extent, so I'll just hold onto that knowledge to comfort me, hehe. I have actually read the book called 'active birth'. Maybe I should give it another going over.... So good to hear everything is peachy with your little peach, hehe. I remember wishing I felt more pg, and just dying to be HUGE and pg....... now I'm kind of missing the days of being slim and trim and having my body to myself! Can't win, eh?

Mildez - Ooooh I got a little shiver when you called me the most pregnantest, lol. I am feeling a bit out of sorts still, kind of queasy, but hungry at the same time (reminds me of the 1st trimester) and DEFINITELY ready to get this baby out. Since you're in the mood for cleaning will you come and sweep my floors???? :) Please? I'm pathetic and huge and whimpering over here for some help... lol.

Kellie - I still have no idea really........ DP says he'd like a little girl because he can picture me braiding her hair and painting her nails and making her all cutesy.. lol. For a while I thought maybe a boy, but all my dreams have started to be about baby girls now, so I'm totally confused. My blood sugars have been really good, actually. I know I shouldn't be annoyed about that, but every time I have to ***** my finger for a sample, and I get a perfectly normal reading I think 'THIS IS STUPID AND POINTLESS'. lol. It only really goes above normal (by a tiny smidge) when I drink cordial, or if I forget to buy a diet softdrink when I have a fizzy craving.

Dory - LOL, yes everyone worship my glorious pregnant bump. :D Last night when I was getting ready for bed in my stylish bra and undies, DP looked at me and said 'Man, your belly is massive'. Hahaha. A couple of his workmates saw me too as I dropped him off in the morning and also commented on how huge I am now. I guess they haven't seen me since I was slim and trim when I worked there too, so it must be a shock for them. But yes, I am enjoying the slightly cooler weather, it's especially nice at night time. I'll be sure to give my bump a big rub in your honour lol.

AFM - So I logged into facebook this morning to see what was new. And was SHOCKED to see my old boss has posted publicly on my wall trying to chastise me for my 'comments' about my baby shower. UM, EXCUSE ME, B***H?! How dare she judge me for being p................. off. She was one of the ones who didn't even bother to respond to my invite, so I assume this is her guilty conscience talking. I told her in no uncertain terms that I wasn't impressed by her intrusion, and that I will feel how I want, say what I want and BOLLOCKS to them. (worded much more elegantly of course.) I'm still just blown away she thought she had the right to 'tell me off' for feeling upset and disappointed! Typical of her though really, she always was patronizing, and when I had my mc, she expected me at work the very next day. She also told me it 'wasn't meant to be', and that 'there was probably something wrong with it so you wouldn't have wanted it anyway'..... oh and the best one? 'That's nothing. My sister had 5 mc's before she brought home a baby'. All this was told to me while I sat and cried hysterically in her office. Yeah. I'm sure you're all thinking of some choice swear words right now.

Anyhoo I'm so irritated by this I'm going to have a lie down for a bit and try to forget about her. In other news, I got stuck in bed last night when I needed to pee because my belly was sore. I think I woke up in the middle of a BH, because I couldn't get up on my own without squealing a bit... lol. DP luckily didn't hear me, I tried to be quiet. For a minute there I thought I might have to wake him to get him to roll me out of bed. :redface:

Forshelby-How dare your old boss i would have told her where to go you have every right to be p#ssed off.
And i have to roll out of bed to my belly just dosnt like me hopping up to quick i get these horrible ligament pains or muscle pains if i do so i roll out of bed or DH has to help me up never had this trouble with my 3 boys little miss ella might not be so little after all.

Forshelby I'd happily sweep your floors although I think there is probably over 1000kms between us however. Sweeping that is one job I can do with ease. Now vacuuming and mopping on the other hand is another story!

Dory I can't do bubs things with DH around as DH doesn't know bub is a girl and most of my stuff is pink. It would be an instant given away.

I can breath Ella has finally dropped or engaged her little butt is no longer wedged under my ribs i hope that means the placenta has moved out of the way.

Ferrals great news. I wonder if this means she will arrive in the next 2-3weeks on her own (provided placenta is out of her way of course) I'm just wondering as I've had 2 people comment saying I've dropped and when I mentioned it to DH he said he thought I had to and now I am peeing atleast 2times a night sometimes up to 6 and my fundus is definately several cms lower then what it was. I dropped with no1 at 36weeks and no2 I can't remember. Time will tell I guess when our little girls will arrive. I told DH our bub will be here on 19th March if she does what her sister did and he freaked out lol. Were so not ready and thats only 21days away.

I can't keep up with you all, so sorry.

Just letting you know that I am still here. Had the stitch taken out on Tuesday and still hanging in there. Playing the waiting game now.

Hope you are all well.

hi everyone!
scan went great! baby is correct size & heart is beating perfect! baby was jumping around in there, we even got to see its hand and fingers when we got a little wave! im so in love already!

yeah i think we are going to pass on the wedding! oh well!

yay ferrals, glad she moved!!

forshelby - that woman needs a headbutt! what a d*ckhead!!

dory - ahh i see! haha i might ask dh to massage it for me :P

yuck how long do the headaches last for??? its starting to bug me!

sorry for anyone ive missed! xxxxxxxx

alish~Congrats on the good US.

AFM ~ i am so done with winter here got another 12 inches of snow. In the am i was actually able to take a shower while Honor slept there was pounding on the door go check and it was the landlord yelling at me how i have to move two cars Honor woke up in a bad mood crying the bf was still on hour from being home from getting his lovely children he had been gone all night and honor had a bad night

Hope - phew.... last stages of your amazing journey of pregnancy with twins and on the cusp of the next part..... hope you go into spontaneous and a quick labour and get those darling little ones out and enjoy your new born cuddles. How was the stitch removal for you?

Alish - AWESEOME for your scan, and honestly you've made the best choice about the weddding... I know it's hard.... I have missed so many important things like that in the last two years... always seemed that I was in the middle of a high risk time of my pregnancies...... and it was sad to miss them, but in my heart I knew I was doing the best thing I could.

Angel - oh bugger for crazy landlords and 12 inches of snow and then bad nights.... it does get better!

Ferrals - yay for Ella dropping.... it is so nice to have the pressure off the ribs and lungs.

Mildez - OMG - in 3 weeks that would be 36 weeks gest. Wow.

Kell - how are you going? Not working as much this week?

Forshelby... oh the waiting, it's sort of fun, but sort of not huh? Uhm about your boss? She is obviously just small minded and you can rise above her pettiness. Be the bigger person and let her wallow in her misery... you are so much more than she is.

TegamM - hope your camping trip is going ok.

T- Hopes - did I tell you I love your avvy?

Reet - is your man home yet? Give Yogi a big cuddle for me. Hannah is so cute with the cats - she just about wriggles out of her skin when she sees them and breaks into the biggest grin. I am not sure they share the same joy yet... lots of tail pulling and eye poking before they will feel the love I am guessing. LOL. Fun times ahead. My cousin is a telco rigger too. It's amazing what they do.

AFM - I am sooo totally in love with Hannah. This is truly a journey into love. It is simply the best and worth all the hard and uncertain times. There is nothing better than just being with her and watching her... I think I will tell people my occupations now is "baby gazer". She had a swimming lesson yesterday, and is now actually starting to try to hold on to the edge of the pool, rather than having her hands clenched up and resting on the edge. It is just amazing. And she had lots of laughs and smiles yesterday too, even though she has a head cold. Pity I am coming down with it too. Oh well.

Belly rubs to anyone I have missed, as you know it's not intentional.

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Hope - phew.... last stages of your amazing journey of pregnancy with twins and on the cusp of the next part..... hope you go into spontaneous and a quick labour and get those darling little ones out and enjoy your new born cuddles. How was the stitch removal for you?

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I'm hoping that is what happens also. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I can't remember exactly, what term did you get your stitch out? I remember that you held on for a while afterwards. The stitch removal was quite uncomfortable. I had it taken out in my OB's rooms, not the hospital. Glad that part is over anyway.

Sorry if I have been missed. Having a lot of issues atm so will not be on until they have been resolved.

Hope - Obs wanted to wait til 38 weeks... maturity he said.... but with twins most twins are delivered by 37 weeks so I can understand why yours woul come out... now it's just the waiting game.... be patient my friend, your time will come and it will be glorious.

Damprye - Sorry I missed you in the round up.... sorry that things are not going well. Thinking of you and hoping to hear from you soon.

Hi guys, Back from camping! It was amazing and a lot of fun, yes hard work but worth it to see the kids play in the surf! Molly was mostly good too which made it easier! We think we will try going once a month or so! Grace is beside me at the moment holding Molly getting the best cuddles....so lovely to see the sisters so in love!

DH had to go straight back to work, whicc left me with all the unpacking and washing AHHHH and on top of it all someone wanted to come and look at the car. Hope someone buys it soon, sick of showing people.

Gotta run, Mollys cracked it and the kidlets need to get to bed. Talk more tomorrow lovely ladies!

Ahhh Tegam how sweet with your girls so in love. how gorgeous :heartbeat:

Dampyre sorry to hear things are tough - come back soon

Dory - did two mornings this weekend only working thursday this week - i have 2 and a half weeks to go yipee i cant wait.
Your Hannah sounds gorgeous. its just beautiful the way you talk about her

Angelfish - wow alot of snow. it has been stinking hot in brisbane the oppisite to you. hope Honor has a better night - big hugs it does get easier

Alish - yah for a great scan. so happy for you

I only have one week till we get to see our little man again i cant wait to see how much hes grown. I get heaps of huge kicks and rolls all the time hes soooo active and strong so diff to Ella she never was a huge mover when i had her.

Bellyrubs to everyone i have missed hope everyone had a great weekend

hey everyone..

Hey kellbell....how far r u now

tegam....sounds like a great trip

dory...thats so lovely....i was sick the first few mths of my dd.....but i fell in love with her a bit later on......its so gorgous..

Angelfish.....arrgggghhhh i hate it when people wake babies up from there sleep

alish...im so glad everything is all good...hopefully u can relax a little now

hello to everyone else


atm........omg.....last night i woke up with vomit in my mouth....i scared myself half to dealth and didnt know what was going on....it burnt all the way up....think i got heart burn in my sleep and it must of come up......i was in so much pain it was so horrible.........got my obs app today.....hopefully i wont forget it this time.....baby brain.....

Oh melstar so bad so early, you'll have to sleep sitting up soon!

Kellbell: 31weeks wow time flies (when its not you whos pregnant!)

Hey ladies,

Tegam-nice to hear you had a great camping trip and i remember when i had my 3 boys 4,2,and a newborn very hectic at dinner/bath and bedtime but so much fun.
Now i will have an 18,15,13 and a newborn what a difference they can cook me dinner pack their own lunch boxes ect while i have all the time in the world with Ella no more hectic evenings with all little ones i am sooo looking forward to it.

Melster-i have never had heartburn until this pregnancy and only when i eat acidic food but yuk is it awful.

AFM-I have a busy week this week i have my next scan on thursday cross fingers the placenta is well and truely out of the way now for a natural birth i see the OB on friday so that should be the decision day.

Ferrals that must be a relief to finally have some answers re delivery. Your boys are going to be so helpful with little miss Ella. My eldest (although not as old as your boys) should be very helpful in the fact she can get herself ready for school and pack her lunch etc if I'm desperate. I usually do it for her but she is capable of doing it herself if I have a bad night and I'm lucky the school bus stops right outside our front door.

Well its day 8 of the runs for me (so sorry about the TMI) and my day started with a migraine so I called in sick for work. The chocolate bar I ate made my migraine go away so now I'm feeling pretty good. I'm even having a good day now with the SPD.

Ferrals I delivered a bub the other night which was due same day miss Ella is. Made me think of you and your little girl. He was doing really well and weighed just over 3kilos so a great size.

Not much to report from my end. Only a few days to go before I can deliver locally if bub was to arrive (which she wont) if it were to happen before then I'd still be on a plane to Sydney so I'm hanging out for that milestone! 2days to go.

S&S if your out there I hope all is going well with you and your little Obie!

Dampyre thinking of you nd hope your back soon.

Melster sounds aweful the vomit in your mouth. Hope your Ob appointment is superb!

Mildez-thats no good having the runs your poor old pooper must be red raw by now.

And i know what you mean Miss Ella could come anytime now but they way she is wriggling around in there i thinks she might be still a little small at our last u/s she was only 4lb 6oz about 2kg and she still flips around she was transverse last night for a few hours OMG! my belly looked weird i had a head poking out one side and a bum out the other and it was pretty uncomfortable so i think she will have a bit more weight to put on before she arrives i am hoping she might show around 37-38 weeks just before Abbi's Bday would be nice.

Oh! what i'd give to have a bus stop at the front door of my house we have to drive the eldest to the train station at 5am for him to get to work and the 2 younger ones go to high school about a 10 min drive away so i have to have them there by 8am i just drive them in my PJ's hope i never break down:redface:.

Anyway 44 days to go for you getting closer now have you packed your bags ready?

Ferrals fortunately other then the first day I've only been hit with the runs approx 3times a day so my butt feels fine and it hasn't effected out sex life lol stupid veins DH can't keep up with me. He is probably going to be relieved when little miss is out so my libido takes a nose dive.

My hospital bags are 1/3rd packed. I've got a few pj's, undies, pads, toiletries and non maternity fat clothes. I haven't added bubs things in yet but have a small packet of nappies, wipes, just need to add her things. The hospital provides crap stuff (if they didn't it would be pinched) so I wont need alot and I'd prefer to not have to wash as soon as I get home. I also desperately need to add camera batteries before I forget and charger (there so important)

We are moving in around 12months and I'll then have to drive the kids to the bus stop or else 40kms to school (its out of town)

mildez...i remember with dd my battery memory was nearly full and they didnt know how to delete them so i only got a selected few of my csection.......this time i swear i will be ready lol

ferrals....well i do hope u get some good news then

tegam......lol i just might.....

Had my ob app and everythings all good.........except..........he is away again from the 4th till the 14th and im due the 19th.....i got the fill in with my dd coz he was away..ill be spewin if i dont get him again......and he said about having a csection...............so anyones recommendations on having a vaginal after a csection? He said it can be dangerous if it burst etc....my dd just over 2.....so do u think it will be ok? Or is it safer to have another csection?

Also got what we owe child support........but we dont know if this is the final figure or what this is but they say we owe her 5700.00 and she has already text us demanding the money.......but we dont know what this amount is and if its the final amount or what........if this is the amount then im kinda ok with it as long as its no more....she has already said she wants it to buy a car.....so a cent wont go on those poor kids....we will still fight it......will be interesting to see if thats the whole amount

melster - i dont get my ob if he isnt on call when i go into labour , its really annoying, like why spend an hour each way travelling and all that money to see him if he isnt going to be there? if i want him to definatly be there i have to pay 2grand! grr!
sorry, i dont have any advice for you, first pregnancy :)

Melster~ it sucks with child support i think at times that the parent should have to show recepits to prove that the money is being use on the children especially that much money. My bf ex use to send him demanding text messages but she has stopped since they have been in and out of court since then. If you can fight as much as possible. CS was way off what they said my BF owed he went to court come to find out he owed nothing. They were behind on the paper work and deposited his checks ( 3 weeks late)

Dory~ i know what you mean about just looking at your baby as they sleep i know at this point that i need my sleep but just watching her loves to fall asleep with me holding her and i will just look at her. As far as her sleeping its gotten better she has her good nights and bad but in my eyes its all worth it. I was out for a couple of hours the other day bf had her home i come home i walk over to her and said hi and she smiled and cooed at me made me so happy.

This will be a selfish post-Oh no girls i have Diabetes so unfair. My levels came back high. I have felt really well nothing like i felt when i had it with ella. Now i have to trapse into the middle of the city to see someone im sure will cost a fortune and theyll push for an induction which i was hoping to avoid. Im so upset boo hoo for me :-(
And i went to my OB with my pants inside out what a crappy day all around :wall:

Hi everybody!

Hope everyone is well and feeling rested!

Forshelby - your ticker is getting me excited!!! Its almost run outta space to tick too!
Dory - thanks for the avatar comp :) I love it too! And cant wait to add a little pink or blue bundle to it :D
Tegam - so nice to hear you all had a happy camping trip! It must be so nice to be out in the fresh air with the family! Monthly trips sound amazing! Damn Melbourne and its cold weather!!! We'd love to get away more if there weather was better!
Ferrals - yep your little girl is sooooo close now! Im so thrilled just thinking about how much you are gunna enjoy all those newborn girly cuddles! Oh yeah and congrats on the double RAk!!! OMG! How loved you must feel! :) PS have you heard anything back from Murraycod?
Dampyre - sorry to hear your having problems, hope they sort themselves out soon x
Melstar - ohh yuk! Heartburn sounds horrible! Ive managed to completely dodge it so far! Im carrying quite low so dont know if thats why?!
Possum - I know what u mean by not feeling preg, my belly really popped out but i didnt overly feel preg till about 15wks! Bub is getting bigger - a 'lemon' now! Love checking your ticker! :)
Mildez, Kellbell, Alish, Angelfish and all those ive missed.... A BIG :hello:

AFM - Spent a while in emergency yesterday with kidney pain, all ok though, they did a renal scan and had a peek at bubby which is was nice and its just the Hydronephrosis playing up and bubs pressing on everything, so ive been put on rest this week which is nice but i always stress about work - i feel guilty for being at home! Why am i such a worry wart!!!??

Before yesterdays drama's we had a nice day looking at prams and im officially soooo confused as to what type to get and what style!!? We looked at Valco, iCandy, Emmaljunga, Buggaboo, Mountain Buggy, Baby Jogger etc etc! IM so confused! Anyone have any recommendations? Nothing seems to tick every box for us and im not sure which way to go!

In your experiences, how important is it to have a pram that faces towards you? Did your babes ever get distressed facing the other way? I know my nephews used to scream when they couldnt see my sister but how common a problem is that?? :help:

kellbell - sorry to hear about the diabetes, you poor love, must be a shock when you feel so well! BUt i have to chuckle about your pants - you poor darling!! How embarrassing!

T-Hopes-having my 4th i can honestly say the lighter and easier to get in and out of the car the better i think chunky prams are a waste of time they are to big and bulky and heavy and in no time bubs like to be in a sitting position to see everything i like a good quality 3 wheel stroller that lays right down for a newborn and can sit up for a bigger bub i have got a you beaut mountain buggy which can be a jogger also it was $600 but will last up to 40kg what 40kg kid will still be in a pram then i have got a sheepskin in it for the newborn comforts and it is sooo easy to push even one handed.
I suggest taking one for a walk around the store use it one handed and try to fold it up and pick it up and see how you go.

Kellbell-sorry about the DB what a bummer.


AFM- DH court case was today it went a bit both ways we got the charges of the false kicking allegations dropped but the assault charge for the hit still went ahead so DH has lost his security licence for good and is on an 18 month good behaviour bond we have to pay $140 in court costs and $550 for a dental bill the d#ckhead had after the incident.
And to prove that they are just money hungry compo chasers they asked the judge to be awarded $12,000 for future dental work :o the judge was on our side and asked them for proof of dental work needed and a quote and they said they had to wait for his teeth to go bad first before the dentist will touch them so the judge said well i am not awarding you anything and said when and if you need dental work go to the victims compensation tribunal and put in a claim and you have to prove to them that dental work is needed and there is capped compensation amounts for different parts of the body and 2 teeth are not going to cost $12,000 so it is up to the tribunal to decide and they will not pay them if they cant get the money out of us so lets hope they are full of sh#t and dont get a cent

Hi ladies, sorry no proper persies. I'm out of data for my internet so doing this on my phone. Tedious! I have been reading and lurking tho.

Kellie- I have GD and was really upset when they told me. However I've been lucky as it seems mild. I was told to modify my diet and it turns out I can enjoy all things in moderation. My best tip is to stay away from sugary drinks. If you want to talk more pm me. The fact you feel good is a positive sign.

AFM- Bubby is still partially engaged, but is now facing the right way. Not much else to report.. I'm getting increasing pelvic pressure and pain, and people are commenting my belly has dropped. I had some semi regular cramping and backpain last night which woke me up, but when I woke up this morning I realised it was def. Not labour since I slept. lol. While at the dr this morning I was watching a young mum try to comfort her sick little boy. He was no older than my first bub would have been, and today is his/her angelversary. Anyway he was getting really distressed and vomiting so she asked reception how long it would be. I overheard she was seeing the same dr as me and the receptionist said there was one more in front of her. I realised it was me, and asked reception to let her go in first. The young mum was so grateful, I nearly cried for her lol. She seemed so surprised I would wait longer to help her out. I was more surprised that reception didn't just switch us around without me having to ask. When I realised they did nothing to help her except give her tissues to clean up her boy, i was annoyed for her. I am not ill, surely a sick baby should be seen first?

The most surprising part was the old woman giving me dirty looks and rolling her eyes after I gave up my appt time. Maybe she felt like she was more important?? No idea. Anyway it makes me a little sad when I do something random to help a stranger and people are shocked. People should have more empathy. Besides, if it was MY baby, I would have appreciated a non urgent patient stepping aside for me. Anyway I'm harping on lol, I just hope I managed to brighten that poor lady's day just a little.

I will try to keep up but can't promise anything until my internet is up and running again. :) Big belly rubs to all!