Thankyou all so much for replying!

I found the pelvic pain really bad for 6 months after giving birth to DS 1, so that was definately the first thing to start aching with ds2, I am now just counting every day I don't get the pelvic ache as a bonus!

We have just been out for lunch to the ILs and I really could go to sleep now, and had a sleep yesterday arvo for about an hour.

I was tired like normal up till around 12 weeks, but it feels like it has come back with a vengence!

I reackon I will have that beached whale feeling by 30 weeks this time! LOL

Seventh Heaven - this baby feels like it is sitting really high in my uterus as well, all the movements and kicks are right at the top as well.

Considering the pregnancies are harder, would you rate your births as easier???? ( I hope so! )