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    Default Down Syndrome marker found at 30 wk scan

    Well dont know how much you can help but had a worrying follow up scan today which showed Echogenic Intracardiac focus in left ventricle of heart and at 19wk scan they also found choroid plexus cyst but that seemed to not show up today

    So was wondering if anyone else had had these things show up and gone on to have a downs free baby or otherwise?

    From what i have read on net seems that these indicators dont mean automatically that it is downs, but it could be as well, very confusing

    Anyhow hope someone can shed a bit of light re their experiences with these things

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    HI Belinda,
    I am really sorry you have had such a stressful ultrasound.
    This is a marker, that doesn't mean it is. In the absence of other markers in my experience it would be unlikely.
    Have you had a talk with your ob?
    It is really upsetting that you have just been left with this 'possbility' with no further direction. I urge you to phone and ask to speak further about this. Again, in the absence of any other indicators I believe your babies risk would be low.
    I am sorry to not be of more help. Sending you lots of love... :hugs:

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    Thanks for your prompt reply

    I have appointment at hospital on thursday, but thats a long way away left with your thoughts!

    I just wish i knew more but i know without invasive testing thats not possible

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    Hi Belinda,

    First of all lots of hugs to you.
    I was told by the genetic counsellor last week not all markers on the heart means the baby is going to be born with down syndrome. Some babies can be born with problems with the heart and be healthy in all over ways. I'd say try not to worry but i know you will as it's easy for me to say don't worry.
    Talk again to your OB and see what to do next maybe more scans will help and also like you said they might do a amnio. Not sure what stage they can keep doing them up until.

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    With my DD at the 19 weeks scan it showed an echogenic focus in the left ventrical. Also found to have only a 2 vessel cord, not 3 vessels. So that was 2 markers for Down's. So i had a follow up scan with a specialist at 21 weeks. After, i had a 1:2900 chance of her having Down's, which for my age at the time(18) was quite high risk. But decided not to have an amniocentisis. DD is now a perfectly healthy 20 month old. So for us, it wasn't an indicator that she had it. Apparntly about 4% of fetus' have this and go on to be a healthy baby.

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    Belinda did you have a 12wk scan ? If you did what was the result from that ?

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    i chose not to have it Michelle, kind of wishing i did but cant go back and change it so not thinking too much about it

    But from what i have been reading its just a marker, and not inconclusive of anything, but doesnt stop the worry as you would know, heres hoping all is fine

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    I haven't been what your going through now Belinda, but you guys are in our thoughts !! I hope you get all your questions answered on Thursday. :hugs:

    Love

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    Some days i wish i never had the 12wk scan done. But like you said you can't go back and change things.

    I'm going to pray for you that everything is going to be okay. I said in the May thread if you need to talk please email and if you want someone to talk too on the phone send me your number and when the best time to call is and i will call, that's if you want someone to chat too.

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    Thanks girls

    I am still pretty numb about it all really, and not completely depressed about it yet, but i dont think its fully hit me yet of what went on today

    Thanks for the offer Michelle I have a good support system here if needed but do appreciate the offer and know you are there for me if needed

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    That's great you have a good support system there.

    Thanks also for the offer if i need it. I think I've gotten through these last few weeks just and i have a couple more of not knowing but i know i will get through it.

    Hope all goes well with your appt on Thursday and you get good news and all this worry was for nothing.

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    Scans sometimes has alot to answer for.

    I had a scare few weeks back with the scanner saying that she is just going out of the room because she has an alarm bell ringing and going to get someone to come in for a second opinion.Considering I was 32 weeks along,My thoughts were....Why wasnt this picked up before in previous scans.

    I was told that my babys chin looked small and set back.But they couldnt see too clearly because of the excess fluid,which is why I was having the scans in the first place to keep an eye on the amount of amniotic fluid I was carrying. After looking and looking for half an hour,they were not sure whether is was what they thought or not and said what they think it could be because he has a prominent top lip which was what made his chin look small and set back.They then showed the Doctor a picture they took there and then,and he said...no thats fine,im happy with that.And he told me that he thinks she just saw a profile of the baby which made it look bad and set her alarm bell ringing,but all the other profiles and the profile he saw looked normal. And then after showing him the picture of my baby she said to me,"Ok that is that,he is happy".But like you said,It doesnt stop the fact its happened and that you are left with the worry.I think about it alot even though i was told all is fine with my boy.

    After looking at a picture taken of my daughter when she was 2 hours old...she has a prominent top lip and small chin.I think thats what they could see and its hereditery and normal looking.But after that long winded story,im just explaining that even sometimes the person scanning can be wrong
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    This is something that those who advocate ultrasounds often fail to consider. What are the parents supposed to do when something is found? In a few cases, things can be handled surgically in-utero. In the vast vast majority of cases, nothing can be done until the baby is born and then if it is a genetic issue, than little can be done.

    Many times, the so-called 'problem' is found to be non-existent at birth. It might have been an 'artefact' from the ultrasound scan. It may have been operator error. But how much worry and anxiety have parents gone through? Often pregnancy and birth are worrying enough, without being concerned about 'phantom problems" that can't be solved. How many babies have been aborted because of false positives?

    I am all for appropriate birth technology, but it seems to me that as a society we have adopted ultrasound as the "wonder technology" without considering some of the downsides it has. What are parents looking for when they seek an ultrasound? Reassurance? The perfect baby? The perfect birth? Unfortunately, ultrasound cannot give us that. It cannot even give reassurance that everything is OK. The error rates for ultrasound are unacceptably hgh.

    Ultrasound can be useful for a very small number of obstetric problems. As a mass screening device it is a failure, simply because the high number of false positives and false negatives it produces. Given the dire needs of our health system, and the fact that ultrasound consumes a huge amount of diagnostic resources, one has to question its routine use.

    A few thoughts.

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    Hi Belinda

    I hope all goes really well at your next appointment. My son was born with congenital heart failure, but he's now a healthy and active 3 year old.

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    One mark doesn't mean a thing Belinda. A girl I know just recently had a bub with downs syndrome and not one scan showed anything so it works both ways. I hate the fact that they are making you worry over possible nothing. I'll be thinking of you on thursday hun.

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    Thanks for those with reassuuring words

    Well i have to just explain, they found the brain cyst things at 19wk scan but they had dissapeared by this scan, but the heart thing was found, so would that be two markers i dont know, but like others have said sometimes nothing is found at all and the baby has downs etc.

    I am quiet aware there are no garantees either way, but 10wks of worry isnt appealing to me at all!

    David: I dont understand how your post is relevant here? I am aware of ultrasound technology and its pros and cons and it wasnt what i asked at all in the original post.
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    Belinda can you have the amnio done so you know what is happening and don't have the 10wks of worry ?

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    i really dont know until i see doctor, i presume it can be as sonographer talked about it to me, but i said to him well whats the point at this late stage, but i didnt realise that initial results can come back within a week, so thats not the weeks i presumed it would take

    will know more after talking to doctor on thursday i would say

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