thread: What happens when you move state?

  1. #1
    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    What happens when you move state?

    DH was talking to his Mum tonight & was saying how if we moved to QLD (not on the cards that we will, but something I think DH would like to do, seems his family is there)
    That Evan would most likely be made to repeat the year he is in.
    I butted in & asked why? he DH just said because they have a different system up there..

    Is this true? Would they just hold him back or would they do some sort of test to assess where he is at? OR would they just put him in the grade he is meant to be in no questions asked?

    Evan (all the kids actually) will be among the oldest in their grade as they all have birthdays at the end of the year. So will all be 5 turning 6 when they start. If Evan was held back a year then he would be even older.

    so how does it work when you change schools & States?

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    Registered User

    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
    14,682

    FJ - I moved from Tassie to Qld when I was 14. The systems are different - high school in tassie goes from year 7 to year 10, then you go to "college".

    Up here, primary school goes to year 7, high school from year 8 - year 12.

    I finished year 8 in tassie, and when we moved up here in the January, started at the beginning of feb in year 9.

    Does that help at all?

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    LOL not really as I aleady knew that primary goes to yr 7 in QLD.
    But what I want to know is say we moved at the end of the year when Evan would be starting grade 1 in 2009. Having just finished Kindy here in NSW. Would he be made to do "preschool" (same as Kindy in NSW)in QLD or would he just automatically no questioned asked go into yr 1 as normal.

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    Registered User

    Dec 2005
    5,951

    From what I have found on the net tonight, the new school will evaluate the child's circumstances/education to make the best possible placement. The old school will provide a Student Data Transfer Note to the new school.
    So from what I can gather from what I've read, they will look into where he's at with education, and see if he can go into the same grade he was in nsw, or if he'll need to go down.
    This all changed in 2006.

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    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    4,427

    Hi FJ, I am a primary school teacher in NSW and have family who teach in Qld public primary schools. When you get there your child will be assessed. A lot has to do whether a child repeats a grade level. Most common factors looked on are the childs age, size (if he is tall and big for his age), social maturity and learning abilities.

    If your child is older for his grade like you said and has done well at school this year and socially ready then he should not be made to repeat a years work that he already knows. If you want more info on this let me know.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    thanks, that answers my question well enough. As I said moving isn't actually on the cards at this point in time. I just wanted to know what would happen if it was.

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    Registered User

    Aug 2006
    On the other side of this screen!!!
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    He would probably go into grade 1 as normal.

    I find the notion that he will be made to repeat a grade laughable since the QLD system is one of the most backward (and out of kilter with other states) in Australia. Sorry don't mean to offend anyone one but as a Defence family it's a real sticking point that some states just won't get with the program. Oh while I'm having a vent I'll b!tch about them scoofing all the water out of the MurrayDarling before anyone else gets a chance. BUT they do grow nice strawberries in winter .

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    He would probably go into grade 1 as normal.

    I find the notion that he will be made to repeat a grade laughable since the QLD system is one of the most backward (and out of kilter with other states) in Australia. Sorry don't mean to offend anyone one but as a Defence family it's a real sticking point that some states just won't get with the program. Oh while I'm having a vent I'll b!tch about them scoofing all the water out of the MurrayDarling before anyone else gets a chance. BUT they do grow nice strawberries in winter .
    LOL

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    Registered User

    Jul 2004
    5,756

    I knew someone who did this. They actually skipped a grade when they went up there. From memory i dont think they did an assessment on them either.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    Yeah see i think I a friend of mines son skipped a grade too, I will have to ask her.

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    Registered User

    Dec 2005
    5,951

    They only bought out all the changes to Qld Education in 2006. The Student Data Transfer Note is now a nationwide scheme to help it may it easier to transfer from school to school, or interstate.
    From what I read, they've done a lot of the changes so they're in line with other states. Funny how everyone bags Qld schools so much, yet they're now doing what other states are doing.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2004
    Cairns QLD
    5,471

    I think its still differnt with the change over from primary to high school, isn't QLD the only state that primary is till yr 7?

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    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    4,427

    Yep you are right FJ. Its the only state.

    Jodi is also right about each student int he public school system has a student record card that gets trasfered to their new school (if public). It just has their enrollment info and if they have had any counsellor assessments or special reprts ie. speech, behaviour, and a copy of their school reports from previous years. Its mainly so the new school has some data on the child to know where he fits in and what they need to do for him to help him at school.

    Antheia- the assessment would happen without you knowing. They dont get the child to do anything written. The school assesses the child mainly by looking through thier record card, even just having a couple of minutes with the child when showing them around the school.

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    Registered User

    Aug 2006
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    No it's not the only state. SA and NT are also primary until the end of grade 7, then grade 8 is high school.

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    Registered User

    Jun 2007
    Melbourne, ready to meet peeps IRL
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    Ok all though I have never had a child in school in NSW I have changed his school a little too much so here goes as to what happens...

    when DS was 4 he started Pre-school in the NT we moved in Aug and went to Melb where he was old enough to go to kindy but on seeing him the teacher told me he would not be suited and asked us to hold him back until the next yr... which we did so he was 4 turning 5 in Vic kindy then that yr we moved again went back to the NT where he was put into trans ( prep in vic or Kindy in NSW ) we were there until half way through his yr 1 when we moved to QLD in QLD he was put into YR 1 also as at the time there cut of was DEC it is now 30 june anyway he was in QLD school until start of Yr 3 when we moved to Vic where he was put into yr 2 as he is a April baby and they thought this would be the best for him, so he is now in yr 2 going to be yr 3 next yr in Vic but once again we are moving and he will be put into yr 4 ( we are going to see if we can hold him back as he needs it..)

    So if anything I would think that your child would go up a yr not down if you move to QLD... As Qld has only just brought prep into its school it used to be that yr 1 was the 1st yr of school so they actully had one less yr of schooling than the rest of Aust, but now they have brought it in and changed the cut of age.... ( but still tec yr 1 is still the 1st yr as you dont have to send your child to prep...)

    I hope some of this helps... so to start prep in QLD your child has to be 5 by the 30th of june or it will be held back until the next yr... In all the school we have had my child has NEVER been assessed to see which class he will go to they ALWAYS decide which class by his birth date....

    sorry if all this is a bit confusing ( sp?) but hope you can muddle though it...