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    These posts are taking me forever even though I'm copying and pasting.When Zain's on my right breast I'm typing onehanded with my left hand - not easy, lol....


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    LOL, I read the bit about 5gm dose is leathal. So how do you find out how much is it the products its in?

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    I dunno, lol, but if anything is lethal at 5g I wont be eating it. When I first learnt about this i had to chuck nearly all our food. Shopping still takes me a long time because I have to read the back of everyhting and check it off my list. Its a PIA but worth it if you ask me. We try to go as natural as possible.

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    I would say to find out the exact amount thats in the item you would have to ring the company.
    Ive rang a few companys that have put additives in things that kids eat and have said i wont be buying there product again until its removed. I think the more people that take the time to ring them and complain then this may be the only way to stop this madness. But then id say they will just call it something else and change the code so we will back to square one.

    I agree that shopping is a pain sometimes because it take you that little bit longer but once you have your items you just keep buying them. Then its like old hat. kwim

    And i should add that by buying brands that dont have additives you are supporting the companys by buying there item.

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    I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here and add a bit more to my previous post.

    I agree that additives and preservatives in artificial form are a big concern in food and one that needs to be looked at. I think that it helps to take a big step back and look at the situation rationally.

    Obviously if you have an allergy, you need to be concerned about the additives that trigger it and avoid wherever possible. If you don't have a known allergy, it helps to be aware of the amount of processed food you eat and consider eating these in moderation if at all. I think children are in a more vulnerable position and these guidelines are particularly important for them as we've all seen the kid who has had Twisties and red cordial and gone berserk.

    Food shopping doesn't have to be a nightmare ... just buy and eat mainly fresh produce and you can't really go wrong.
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    Melbo, couldnt agree with you more.

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    Aren't there some preservatives that are linked to ADD/ADHD - so it's not just allergic reactions that we have to worry about?

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    oh for sure Debbie lee, alot of additives and preservatives are linked to add/adhd. There is certainly a list of numbers to avoid if your kids are pron this problem with there foods. I dont mind writting them if need be.

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    I'd be interested to know which ones they are, Kerrie.
    I'm a PS teacher and have to deal with children with ADD in pretty much every class I teach. I've also heard some great stories about how a change in diet has really helped some children (though I know it isn't the only cause of ADD).

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    Righto, get your pen handy.

    Hyperactive or hypersensitive reaction possible
    These should be avoided by children, especially those with ADD or ADHD, or anyone with known chemical sensitivities.

    102 103 104 110 120 122 123 124 127 129 131 132 133 142 150 151 155 160b
    210 211 220 282
    319 320 321
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    620 621 627 631 635
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    Ironically, most of the kids I know who are absolute shockers with their behaviour, they aren't ADD/ADHD or anything, but just simply bad behaviour, live on highly processed foods and little sleep - so the little buggers are overtired and feed improperly. If they had a decent diet with at least a little bit of fruit and veges and a good nights sleep, I'm sure these kids would be different.

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    I agree Sherie.

    My autistic daughters behaviour changed dramatically when we changed her diet. Her metabolic specialist also tried her on megadoses of riboflavin and the change in her behaviour was noticable immediately even with that.

    They say if you are going to change your childs diet you shouldnt tell anyone so that if people notice an improvement you know its not wishful thinking or coincidental.

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    Sheesh... that's a whole lotta numbers to avoid!
    It goes to show that affluence has a lot to answer for!

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    I think most of those are colours Debbie (correct me if I'm wrong fire fly). So that means lollies, iceblocks, cordials etc are out (espec. red and yellow). The only good margarine I found was Meadow Lea - but only the original one (red) - and I *think* Savings (Coles brand).

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    I will never forget a story on ACA a while back and there were 5 kids with autism. They cut out wheat and sugar (or similar, definitely wheat though) from their diet, and they improved so much. I know this isn['t always the case, but for these 5 it was AMAZING. Im a big believer that if there's something wrong with you (health wise eg constipation, or depression, or ADD) you look at food first. You don't just have to have an allergy for preservatives to be bad. I try to avoid as many preservatives as possible for my children. Humans were designed to eat fresh fruit and veg, meat, nuts and seeds (if you think of the cave people, they had to find their own food). As Melbo said, if we stick to fresh produce, then the odd treat is fine. Moderation is the key. Of course I let DD1 have treats, but I make sure that what I feed her at home and send to school is the healthiest possible. (would love her to eat more vegies though)!! xoox

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    I took a bit more note of the side of the packet when I went shopping the other night. I was pretty happy with most of what I bought. I did put a few things back that I normally would buy but had that 319 & 320 in it. These where the cheese & cracker dip thingys. The boys don't really eat them anyway. I usually end up finding the crackers crushed into the floor & the plastic container with the cheese under the couch. So I figured why bother get them at all? I also noticed the Bread I bought (not what I usually get) the other day had either the 320 or 319 in it. So I wont buy that again. I was surprised that the butter I get normally also had one of those in it. But was even more surprised that the alternative at Aldi's didn't.
    Kerrie, I think your right, its pretty easy to avoid the nasty ones. But again, I was pretty surprised that my regular shopping was reasonably nasty perservative free. So I even though I don't really think its a big enough deal to go out of my way to avoid perticular addatives, its pretty simple & I am not really going out of my way to avoid them. I just put back the things that had the nasty ones. I didn't even bother trying to find an alternative to replace that product, because it was one I didn't have to buy.
    I guess I am lucky that my boys are happy with fruits & veg as snacks. Its probably more when we are out & they get take away type foods that they would be getting the nasty stuff.

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    Natalie, i dare say your right about the colours, anything will a colour is not natural. Its really common sense, you assess the product and think is this natural or man made. Savoury stuff is full of it, where as plain things arent like plain chips, there fine. Plain chocolate is fine but stuff that has fillings like caramel isnt. Its gets pretty obviouse once you start looking at things.

    Fiona, glad to hear you cupboard isnt full of rubbish, i didnt think it would have been. Who can really afford it now days anyway. Its all a rip off. Fresh is best for sure.
    Give the kids cut up block cheese and plain crackers next time for a snack and you will probably be surprised that they actually eat it all. Try it and tell me.

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    The boys love having cups of grated cheese actually. Again I end up with a lot on the floor (Glenn!) but at least it gets eaten. Off the floor as well, either by Glenn or the Cat LOL!

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