Rescue Remedy-Sleep

**Livinthedream** · July 24th, 2009, 08:48 PM

After a series of escalating night time wake ups (8 between 12am and 5 am this morning)
I went a purchased some Bach rescue remedy -sleep. The lady at the health food shop said that it is safe as houses and there would be no probs using it on my 4 month old.
What do you think?
FWIW we now think it is teething, went to docs today and bubs in now sound asleep with panadol in his tum, but am thinking there still may be times when a "sleeping potion" could be handy......

**Nelle** · July 24th, 2009, 09:44 PM

I know I love Brauer's Insomnia relief for myself. Never thought to use it on bub though. All the best for a good night tonight!

**Mumma2three** · July 25th, 2009, 07:12 AM

Im a big fan of rescue remedy but it does have alcohol in it, so maybe check at a chemist or with your Doc. xo

**Livinthedream** · July 25th, 2009, 05:51 PM

Thankyou for your replies.
We have just stuck with the panadol today and I am sending DP out tomorrow to get some brauers (sp) teething remedy. Dont wanna give him panadol longer than I have to.
But I am sure at some point the sleeping potion will come into its own.

xx

**Winter** · July 25th, 2009, 05:55 PM

I wouldn't. Its basically alcohol with minor flower extracts for flavouring.

**littlelara** · July 25th, 2009, 08:24 PM

I'm pretty sure you can get one specifically for kids that doesn't contain the alcohol, but that might just be the normal rr

**Lulu** · July 26th, 2009, 11:17 AM

I wouldn't. Its basically alcohol with minor flower extracts for flavouring.

It's the essence of the flowers that do the work, the alcohol is there to preserve it. I imagine they might have given you the remedy preserved in glycerine for bubs, but if not you can put the drops in warm/hot water first and the alcohol with evaporate off leaving the active components behind.

**Winter** · July 26th, 2009, 11:31 AM

5x dilution of flower extracts of Rock Rose, Impatienns, Clematis, Star of Bethlehem, Cherry Plum in grape alcohol solution.

**Liz** · July 26th, 2009, 11:37 AM

Brauer's Calm is for babies/children for sleeplessness. I'd be inclined to use that rather than rescue remedy unless it is one designed for children. A lot of herbal remedies aren't recommended for under 6 months.. and sometimes even 2 years.. so I'd be very careful with a 4 mth old.

I dunno about warming it to remove alcohol content. I've read recently that alcohol doesn't actually cook out of food so it might not work. And some of the extracts might lose their properties above certain temperatures. Not exactly the same thing, but when making soaps etc we learnt that some plant oils had to be added in after the heating process as it destroys their properties, so I would think it could be the same for other plant extracts.

**Lulu** · July 26th, 2009, 05:44 PM

Brauers Calm (and the whole range) is homoepathic, and is prescribed for physical ailments.

Bach Flower Remedies are prescribed for emotional/state of mind ailments and work to restore balance and emotional well being.

Both follow very very very similar principles (discovered by different people) -like cures like. The plant extracts and essences used are so tiiiiny that it's almost just an echo of the flower itself. The most amazing thing is the more dilute the Bach Flower the more effective it is. That's because the world is wonderful and nature is incredible.

The alcohol is necessary as a preservative and there is not much in there. It's also very pure, unlike alcohol used in cooking. Only 5 drops of remedy is used at a time MAX. It can also be applied topically (bubs head).

The only issue I have with the premixed Bach Remedies (apart from Rescue Remedy) is that it needs to be prescribed individually. The sleep one in particular annoys me (the adult version) because the reasons for MY sleeplessness, will be different to anyone elses - feel me?

**Liz** · July 26th, 2009, 06:12 PM

The alcohol is necessary as a preservative and there is not much in there. It's also very pure, unlike alcohol used in cooking. Only 5 drops of remedy is used at a time MAX. It can also be applied topically (bubs head).

Hmm.. but ethanol is ethanol, and interestingly rescue remedy is preserved in brandy.

Ingredients of rescue remedy is 27% alcohol... even if it's just a few drops in the mouth... i dunno.. bit like dipping the dummy in brandy LOL.

I still wouldn't do it with a 4mth old tho. But if you've got the one for kids which is alcohol free.. then all this talk about alcohol doesn't really count for anything! LOL

**Livinthedream** · July 26th, 2009, 06:33 PM

Thankyou for your replies, thats what I love about this site, I go into a heath food store looking like week old shiat from lack of sleep and some checkout chick sees me coming

Here, I get the truth
So i purchased out of blind desperation

I didnt realise there was a kids version and I didnt realise that within the range, there were prob better options.
Lulu, I will definatly be consulting you before i spend another 20 bucks
Winter and Liz, I understand where you are coming from and havnt yet given it to him as I have decided to go with teething relief
SOOOO, is there a better option than Hylands, cause thats what DP came home with. (he was sold on the 100% money back guarantee - tight arse doesnt want to waste 7 bucks....)

**Liz** · July 26th, 2009, 06:40 PM

I haven't heard of Hylands, but I found Brauers Teething Relief to be pretty hopeless LOL. My kids teethed pretty quickly tho.. and always cut more than one tooth at a time (Tallon cut 5 at once after his first one!!) We'd have a couple of bad nights, and then they'd cut through and I'd feel bad, coz they hadn't even had any pain relief those nights! Kayla did teeth a bit longer.. and it was her that I tried Brauers on.. and yeah.. didn't seem to make a difference.

Whatever it is it will pass soon enough.. and you'll be worrying about the next thing hahah. Hang in there!

**Lulu** · July 26th, 2009, 06:46 PM

Shelley, it's not to say it might not be useful in the future - I keep rescue remedy in my handbag and take it everywhere.

It's just you need to understand the way it works to be able to prescribe, and it needs to be based on questions about the entire situation or feeling you need balanced. It won't hurt anyone. I'm not sure what the other component is in that remedy - I haven't taken an interest in the premixed ones at all - can't help it, I'm a purist about these things

Hey Liz - what's the preservative in the Brauers? I don't have any here now and was wondering what it is. I found the teething mix seemed to work, but 100% of the time - which is better than nothing I suppose

**Livinthedream** · July 26th, 2009, 06:55 PM

Sanks guys, I am a solutions kind of a gal and "riding things out" kinda does my head in.Be interesting to see how i try and find a solution to a tantruming toddler

But hey, I always have my alcohol based sleeping potion

Its just so hard when the problem is so easy to fix with panadol/nurofen. Poor sad bubby......

**Liz** · July 26th, 2009, 06:57 PM

I dunno! They only list the active ingredients: Aconitum nap. 30C, Actaea spicata 6C, Belladonna 30C, Chamomilla 30C, Colocynthis 6C, Kreosotum 6C, Merc. sol. 6C, Nux vomica 6C, Silicea 6C.

Probably some chemical preservative

I wonder what preservative the Rescue Remedy for kids uses if it's alcohol free?

**Lulu** · July 26th, 2009, 07:02 PM

Glycerine for kids chick.

**Winter** · July 26th, 2009, 07:55 PM

Just checking the bottle I have here, they have a website - mods can I post this link?

Bach Original Flower Remedies

I'd check there to see what they reccommend for kids.

Good luck MLM, let us know what works for you. My girl is 4 months too so if you find something that is a miracle - shout it from the rooftops!!

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