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thread: Is this unreasonable??

  1. #1

    May 2008
    Melbourne, Vic
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    Is this unreasonable??

    Background... My mum always wanted to name her son Daniel James. She loves the name Daniel and James would be after her father. Problem is she had two girls - me and my sister. We're all very close and my sister and I always said that whoever had a boy first would use Daniel James, as we both liked it too.

    Cut to present day... we both got married and realised that hey, the husband gets a say in naming bubs as well! My sister had the first boy and her DH didn't like the name Daniel or James. So I spoke to my DH who said he didn't mind James but we couldn't use Daniel as his best mate has a son, Daniel. Fair enough.

    So I said to my sister and mum "well if I have a boy, maybe I'll use James at least!"

    Then my sister had her DS, and she has used James as a middle name. Now that I am expecting a boy, I had struck James off the list as she has used it already.

    Last night my mum picked up a baby name book at my house and said "What are you looking for - a middle name?" Turns out she thought we're still using James. I said we weren't, as my sister had used it, so that ship had sailed.

    Then she cried

    Am I being unreasonable? These two little boys will see a lot of each other - its not like they will be some sort of distant relatives and no one will remember what my nephew's middle name is. They are also going to be very close in age.

    Would you use someone else's middle name as first name for your bubs? Someone really close to you?? When there is going to be only 4 months between the two babies???

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Dec 2006
    In my own private paradise
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    Middle names i don't mind - there is meaning behind why you wanted to use it, so if you want to use it, use it. don't NOT use it because your sister has

    my bro used my grandfathers name (robert) as a middle name for his son. we would potentially use it too. not that it's a fantastic, unique name - but because it has emotional attachment for me.

    James is a throwback to your grandfather - if you want to use it, use it

    really, how often are the middles names going to be used? it's not like you're going to use them all them time!

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Feb 2006
    melbourne
    11,462

    i dont think its a issue hun!~! if you like it go for it!

  4. #4

    May 2008
    Melbourne, Vic
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    Thanks for your opinions ladies!

    BG - I hadn't thought about the fact that it has emotional significance too.

    Now I am confused I had just assumed it was a no, I might need to reconsider!

  5. #5
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    Dec 2008
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    I would use it. My cousin's son has DS's middle name as his first name because it's a 'family name'.

    BTW I love the name James.

  6. #6
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    Sep 2005
    In the middle of nowhere
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    I don't think it's an issue either, but I also wouldn't use a name I wasn't 100% sure on either.
    If you love it use it.
    BUT (and please not being rude or trying to offend) I wouldn't feel like I had to name my baby just so someone else wouldn't be upset.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jul 2007
    melb
    8,498

    Its only your nephews middle name so I cant see why you cant use it as middle names are very rarely used day to day.

    It is also significant for both of you.

  8. #8
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    Sep 2007
    South Gippsland
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    Middle names i don't mind - there is meaning behind why you wanted to use it, so if you want to use it, use it. don't NOT use it because your sister has

    James is a throwback to your grandfather - if you want to use it, use it

    really, how often are the middles names going to be used?
    Couldn't have said it better myself x

  9. #9

    May 2008
    Melbourne, Vic
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    BUT (and please not being rude or trying to offend) I wouldn't feel like I had to name my baby just so someone else wouldn't be upset.
    Yeah that's part of it now too... I feel like if we went back to James it'd be to appease my mum (in part!) and DH won't be happy about that...

    Sigh, why do baby names get so political with families???

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    Country Victoria
    5,945

    I think... its your son, you name him what ever you like

    It could be a nice connection between the 2 boys.

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Mar 2009
    Haha's world
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    I agree with Kim also. Don't go back to James just because your mum got upset (not that you should disregard her feelings either, it's such a fine line!). But I agree with the others too, you can know someone very well for years and not know their middle name! If you want to use James, I can't see how it would be a problem. Is your sister okay with it?

    Funnily enough, I love both those names, and if this baby is a boy, would have loved to call him Daniel as that is my Dad's name. But my DF doesn't like it because it reminds him of someone he really disliked from his childhood. But we are going to use it as a middle name. I would have loved James Daniel, but unfortunately DF doesn't like the name James either. He's so hard to please!

  12. #12
    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    Melbourne
    6,745

    If you love it then use it. My next door neighbour who is a good friend named her second girl Claudia which is DD1's middle name. She asked if I minded which I didn't so it wasn't an issue.

    Also my friend has a daughter called Sophie - Sophie has 2 cousins Sofia and Sophie-Beth on the same side of the family and nobody had an issue with that.

  13. #13
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Victoria
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    I think it's fine. I had a similair situation where my DS' first name is the same as my nephew's middle name. My nephew is 10 years old & he was quite honoured that we used this name. This name also has family significance as it was my late father's name.
    My sister didn't care - I don't think I would mind either if it was reversed.

  14. #14

    May 2008
    Melbourne, Vic
    8,631

    I love being able to get other opinions like this. I had just discounted it without really thinking about it... you girls are encouraging me to question my own opinions and thoughts and preconceptions... maybe I need to think about it further...



    So complex!

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Jul 2006
    964

    Yep, I think it's fine

    We named our boy with a family name that had been used as a second name for one of his cousins.

    If your sister wanted to use James as a first name they would have used it.

    To me, middle names are really just a formality.

  16. #16
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    Jul 2005
    Sydney
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    i think seeings its a middle name and nor first name it would be ok for both boys to have James.

    I used to have a bf who was Ben and his first cousin was Benjamin (but also Ben), i always wondered why his aunty would have named her son Ben after having already had a nephew Ben, but they lived in 2 diff states and guess she just loved the name!

    But unless you actually like the name James for middle i wouldnt use it just cause someone else wants you to, both u and dh have the total say in names i think

  17. #17
    Registered User

    Feb 2008
    1,163

    I actually really love the idea! I love names that tie people together. We have a lot of repeat names both first and second in our family and I love the personal connections. My siblings and I all have ties in our names to uncles and aunties and it really has fostered lovely relationships.

    On the cousin front, my cousin (related through her father) is Kate-Louise, she has an auntie (on her mother's side) Kate and a cousin Kate with her sister named Louise! It works for them I also know a girl who is one of 5 Olivias in her family So it can get crazier than simply having the same name as the middle name of a cousin.

    WRT the similarity, people really do grow into their names and so similarities in the name become less as time goes on.

    Another consideration - sometimes similar names are something you can't control. I have married a man with a name which pops up in my family a lot and my friend also has a husband by the same name... can't predict that!

    Good luck with the decision, keep your options open and go with what feels right on lots of levels!

  18. #18
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Ouiinslano
    5,303

    Start asking around you male friends what their middle names are. Lots (LOTS) of them will have James as a middle name. In the 1980s it was the most popular middle name, along with John, and both were used twice as much as the next name. It is SOOOO common as a mn that I don't think anyone would really notice.

    If the two little boys are seeing a lot of each other, it might be like a special bond between them, KWIM?

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