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Senior Campus allowing students to smoke
The senior campus of my boys High School allows the students to smoke during recess and lunchtime in a designated area. Apparently students were leaving the class to go and have a cigarette. I'm not for the idea, just wondering what your opinions of this are?
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Dianne
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Well...schools grounds are smoke free by law. Even the teachers have to leave the grounds to smoke. They're also promoting underage smoking. I worked in a place that sold cigarettes, if I was caught selling them to someone under age OR to someone who was going to provide them to someone under age I would be fined. I think it's totally and utterly WRONG. It should be reported.
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What is the legal age for smoking?
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It's not a terrible idea but not great either.
On the other hand do you get them to go and see a GP on their own, to get patches under the new scheme where patches are on the PBS?
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That is disgraceful! Their is nothing acceptable about smoking.
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It is illegal to sell tobacco to anyone under 18. It is also illegal purchase it on behalf of anyone under 18. I don't believe there is a legal age for smoking though.
I found this on the legal aid website:
Until you are 18 no-one is allowed to sell you cigarettes or tobacco, buy cigarettes or tobacco for you, or let you buy cigarettes or tobacco from a machine on their premises. However, it is not against the law to smoke or carry cigarettes or tobacco if you are under 18.
Last edited by Tinks; February 22nd, 2011 at 04:56 PM. : adding quote
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is it a public school?
it is illegal to smoke on government property.
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I was under the impression that the legal age to smoke is 16, but you can't buy them until your 18, and its illegal to buy them for an under 18...
stupid crazy law.... but you can thank big tobacco for that one!
Schools should be smoke free and there should be zero tolerance.... what next, they going to have a designated drinking area too?
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I'm sorry, but that is just ridiculous - gosh, if we (and I never smoked) were caught smoking in our uniform - regardless of wether during school time or before/after school, we would be in big trouble in my day.
As far as I am concerned if you are under 18, you have no right to smoke - end of story.
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Far out DD goes to a Seventh Day adventist University and they are forbidden to smoke on the grounds and they are all of legal age.
FFS Teachers aren't allowed to smoke in school grounds why let kids????
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I would ask the P & C which tobacco company is sponsering the next bake sale......
Seriously this is disgusting! It gives the kids the idea that its OK to smoke, and its filthy, disgusting and harmful!
Happy Healthy Harold would be rolling over in his grave
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Harold is alive and well BBB!!! He was at our school last year!!
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Well I think his van needs to rock up to this senior campus! I love Harold, I cried in yr6 when we had to say goodbye!
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He is just Healthy Harold now too- not sure why he isn't happy anymore.
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Ok, this is actuallly made me really angry! I am still thinking about it !
Not only does it foster an attitude that smoking is okay, it also is reinforcing a social aspect of smoking, hardwiring these kids to relate break times, friends and food with smoking. This will make the habit even harder to quit, its the kind of situation the tobacco companys could only dream of having!
Enabling smoking is just as bad an encouraging smoking. Just because at 16 you can smoke, doesn't mean that they should be enabling these students to do so.
If students are smoking and going out of class to do it, then the solution should be to make these kids complete Quit programs, not legislate a way for them to smoke within the bounds of the school! When I was in highschool the deputy principle would have you in afternoon detention completing a Quit program if you were caught smoking.
I would be calling Today Tonight or 7pm Project and dobbing.... i'm sure a sour media reaction would nip the practice in the butt pretty quickly!
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I don't know maybe there's more to it then what we know. Maybe it's better to have them supervised then leaving the grounds for some reasons unknown to us?
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I think its better if they get detention and Quit Smoking assistance
.... and i'm sure there is students sneaking off at lunchtime to have sex too, is the senior campus going to give these guys a room to stop them going off campus? I mean, if they are over 16, they are legally allowed to have sex....
Last edited by Jellybean29; February 22nd, 2011 at 06:18 PM.
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The only thing I can think is that those pupils who leave the school grounds to smoke tend not to return. At my high school children were not allowed to smoke, but a blind eye was turned to smoking at the back gate because the alternative was walking further away from the school and possibly missing classes. I would expect any school that had an arrangement like this to have it off school grounds, and coupled with smoking cessation information for pupils though.
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