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thread: Side effects to stopping cow's milk?

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    Question Side effects to stopping cow's milk?

    Ok, so this may seem bizarre - but since Saturday we have taken DS off cows milk and onto oats milk.

    The last couple of days - omg - he has been insane!! running around like a complete nutter - doesn't listen to anything I say - really misbehaving (more than usual for him being 2!!) and just... well for lack of a better word - psycho....lol

    So could it be him going off cows milk and getting it out of his system? Cos its starting to really do my head in. I mean, its funny when he's running around like I do when I've had too much nougat, but so so tiring!!!

    Whaddya think? Coincidence?

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    It took a good 4 weeks for it to get out of Matilda's system.... so I wouldn't think it was out of his system yet, but sure... it could cause a few upheavals getting there. I was told it would get worse before it got better.

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    Worse?? holy moly

    Can you recommend a cows milk free cheese and yoghurt christy? Cos he loves his yoghurt but we've been limiting it - same with the cheese.

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    The only other thing that i can think of is sugar... I didnt realise that many of the cheaper and well known brands of soy and rice milk have added sugar (possibly the same with oat milk???)
    Anyway we have just swapped MJ soy milk and it took a while for her to get use to it, no major issues like you have experiences, but then she only has it on her weetbix in the mornings so its not a major part of her intake.

    HTH

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    ooh good thinking there Sammie - I'll check the packaging.

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    Arimeh, we've tried soy yogurt but because Jovie reacts to soy we took it away... We also use tofutti that I find in Woolworths and it is a cheese replacer, we don't give it to Jovie but the Better than Cream Cheese is fantastic! I used it the other day to make a cheesecake... seriously! The american cheese slices are crap, but I hate processed cheese slices anyway. Matilda likes them melted on toast though. So rarely, occasionally I buy it.

    Mainly though, we don't have anything... we don't do replacements too well.

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    Cool Christy thanks for that - I'll have a look at coles next time i'm in there. At the moment he eats our fat-reduced cheese so at least it might be slightly better? (and I only say that cos I can't handle full fat dairy, but reduced fat is ok for some reason?)

    Sammie - I checked the sugar level - actually less sugar in the oats than in full cream. So !!!

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    Mel.... its the protein they are intolerant too, not the fat mate. Unfortunately low fat doesn't help a milk intolerance or allergy. Sorry!

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    Meh - see how much I know? LOL

    Nada... zero... zilch......

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    Hun I've been through the ringer with this. It took me months to get into it, took me ages to find out what was going on with the diet stuff. When I had to go off milk myself for Jovie it took me 3 months to get used to reading labels.

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    I'm a bit lost with all this. We're not sure if DS2 is allergic to dairy or not, but I think we might try and avoid it as best we can for now.
    I was actually wondering last night what types of yogurt you can get that are dairy-free.
    So you can get a soy one? Any others?

    Sorry to take over your thread, Mel. I'm just curious.

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    Dunno ten, i'll be looking at the shops today.

    one week off cows milk and his poos have gotten better. not heaps, but getting there.

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    That's so great Mel! We're off dairy here, and no improvement at all. We did have a glass of milk relapse, so perhaps that's it...

    I don't know what I'll do if we have to go off wheat...we're a pizza and pasta family, we should be Italian!

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    Jake has soy - the Soy Life Vanilla creme yoghurt is his fave - the Soy King ones I love but he doesn't like the fruit chunks in them. Both you can get from Coles or Woolies. Cheese replacements we haven't found but my sister has a great wholefood store called Macro in Sydney near her and she gets a great soy cheese there. We also use Vitasoy soy milk - it is made from whole soy beans unlike a lot of the other brands that only use soy protein which is a by-product from processing soy for other stuff.

    Mel be careful with low fat dairy bcos generally they actually have more milk protein solids in them as they add milk solids to it. My terminology is prob wrong but the upshot is they can actually upset tummie more than whole fat.

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    Wow, this is really interesting, I had never heard of weaning from dairy causing behavioural problems like that.

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    We are a dairy free household (my kids have never eaten it, and I haven't eaten it in nearly 13 years).

    There is a brand of soy cheese that we eat called 'Cheezly'. It comes in many different types (Edam is our favourite), and you can grate it or slice it or melt it on pizza. We get it at our local health food store. It is imported by a company in Melbourne called 'Vegan Perfection' and they list their national stockists on their website, so you may be able to find a store near you.

    I am happy to answer any 'dairy-free' questions (I don't consider myself an expert, just someone who has lived without dairy for a long time and hasn't looked back!).
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    oops, double post!
    Last edited by *Ash*; February 13th, 2009 at 08:24 PM. : double post

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    Mel - Em has the Soy King yoghurts. Check the ingredients on your margarine too, lots of them do have milk in them. There are 2 that I know of that are definitely dairy free. Lots of your crackers will have it in there too. Hmm, maybe I should come down there or you come up here and we do a grocery shop for one of us together, coz I can never think of the names we use, just recognise the packs. I am trying to remember to look at all the cheeses when I do the shopping but by the time I get to the cheese section I have a full trolley and am getting tired.

    Christy has some excellent recipes too She has saved my bacon a few times. I usually write down the recipes she gives me and Em has not pushed one away yet.

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