Daytime telly dachlostar? I’ll remember that as I keep an eye on your TV thread, lol. Dr Phil’s idea sounds good, but I don’t think I could follow through re confiscating items even temporarily.

I did however confiscate DDs computer monitor! She might get it back next Wednesday if she’s good. She also spent half the day yesterday doing chores around the house, cleaning the bathroom, a bit of weeding, tidying up Angus’ toys etc (I made her, not her own initiative). Things are looking better at the moment. It’s like she sees being punished as a good thing, getting attention. She seems calmer or something.

They both went without TV for a couple of days too, as I stuck to our rule that it doesn’t go on until their rooms are tidy. Persistence and consistency I keep telling myself. I think our rules are ok, just got to stick to them.