Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss #3 May '08

[AJC]

Morning ladies.

smilinatu - thanks for the reassurance. Must admit, have been doing alot of lately and it seems to make me feel more calm & relaxed.

bettyboop - glad your appointment went well. Rest up and relax over the next week and I'm sure you'll catch the eggie.

I don't know much about lunar fertility but it but if large part of our bodies is made up of water (and well the moon controls the tides doesn't it) then surely it makes sense that our moods and bodies must be influenced by the moon in some way.

Hugs and babydust for everyone!!!

[Where there's hope]

Hi lovely ladies.

Sorry I haven't written for a while - have been away, but did quickly check in to see how everyone is doing.

I am on CD2 after having 2 AF's after my 2nd D&C. It is not quite as heavy as I would like. But it is the most painful one I have had in my life. Bit worried. Also, on CD 26, 3 days before AF arrived, I had intense pain for around ten minutes around my right ovary. Seeing my FS next week, but any clues, guys? I feel like such a hypochondriac when I get on this site...

Jen - your list is excellent. So many BFP's. Gives the rest of us hope!

Take care

[Acria]

Hey girls, just a quick one as I'm on the work computer and fairly sure I'm not meant to be on bellybelly tested yesterday lunchtime though, and got a . I'm not discouraged though, as really I knew it was too early, so I'll test again Sunday or Monday. Symptoms all still present. babydust and sticky vibes to everyone!

Lisa xx

[Jodsan]

Jen - As long as you BD within 24 hours either side of your lunar fertility time, then you are in with a chance. It sounds like your cycle O time is in synch with your lunar fertility time, sounds like they were both on the same day (if so, your chances of conception should be greatly improved)? It is possible you did O twice, would be the reason the pains were everywhere? I definately had watery CM when pg, but still not sure why your cervix would be open. Sorry, yucky question, is the CM slightly brown (apparently very common in early pg).
btw - I love your list - it makes it so much easier to stay away for a couple of days but still keep up!

Tina - Your lunar time only provides a possibility of Ovulating twice in one month, it does not always happen. Usually stress or lots of BDing can trigger spontaneous Ovulation at the time of your lunar return. The reason your lunar time came with AF is because your cycle is not in synch with your lunar cycle. The reason that the average monthly cycle for women is 29 days is because it goes in lunar months. Our bodies are something like 90% water, and just as the ocean tides are dictated by the moon, so are the cycles of our bodies. Of course there are many, many factors in the modern world that can throw us out of whack (such as hormonal imbalances, etc). I highly recommend working out your lunar time for the next few months, when it moves to a time outside of AF, BD lots starting from 24 hours before the time given and there is a chance you may spontaneously ovulate. Spontaneous ovulation at lunar time is not a given, but it does give you an extra chance for conception in any given month. If you can get your cycle in synch with your natural lunar cycle - you should have an even higher chance of conception. Apparently, the best way to do this is spend some time in the moonlight every night. Easier said than done, I have been going out every night for a couple of weeks to get some moonlight in order to get my cycles back in sync but haven't seen the moon because there's too many damn clouds. Unfortunately, my lunar return is two days after O this month, so I'm just going to make sure we BD on both days. Incidently, I am positive Aiden was conceived on my lunar return - I always O on day 14, according to measurements, etc, he was conceived about a week earlier (and he came a week early which is fairly uncommon for a first pg). The sonographer tried to tell me I had a 21 day cycle. Anyway, I looked into this a couple of months ago and typed in the dates for September 2005 and my lunar date was a week b4 O should have been. So I am a believer however, I have been watching my cycles closely over the past 7 months, and even with all the BDing for TTC, I have only O'd once on my lunar return. That month, my spot on 29 day cycle was only 23 days because of Oing early. That's why I say there is only a chance you can O at your lunar time (1 in 7 chance for me anyway). But I believe anyone TTC should work out their lunar times for the next few months and give it a go, an extra chance of conception is not a bad thing!

And Tina, is your CM EW yet? Sperm can live up to 5 days in EWCM. If it is somewhere bw creamy and EW, you'll probably still be ok. If it is sticky still, the sperm might not live as long. Fingers crossed the swimmers have a long, long, life.

Sorry, I've ranted a bit, I will have to pop on later for more personals.

[tina_k]

jodsan, wow! you are amazing! thanks so much for that explanation! thats really interesting, ill have to keep an eye on it for a while...
As for going out in the moonlight, ill give it a go!
Re CM, still quite dry in that department, so mabe O will be alot later this month, in time for me to be back frm my weekend away...
jen805: thanks also for that advice, its good to keep an open mind right! Going to Syd to see the folks before they head off to Egypt for 2 months! (lucky them1!!!)

[Vanaithi]

HELLO LADIES! KEEP UP THE CHANTING!

Sorry I havent been on since last week. I usually get on during work (break ) & on weekends I hardly use the computer. As I havent been on til today it means I havent been working! I've just started a temp job today which is great! Its going to go until end of june or even early july - so you'll be seeing me at least til then! & then after that it'll be less often whenever I have access to the comp.

Hi Tocarra! Sorry you have to be here. But hope your stay is short!

Update on AF: gone on satday so im very happy! waiting for ov. but have been bd since monday & every 2 days, so 2nd go tonight to build up the spermies in there to catch the egg! got some creamy cm. negative OPK test though.

Anyways, gotta go back to work!

GOODLUCK TO ALL!

[Jodsan]

Back again,

Where there's hope - From my experience, it is probably a hormone imbalance causing a more painful AF. Did you have any PMS symptoms in the week leading up to AF? I am still trying to get my hormones in order, 6 cycles after my loss, and my loss was early with no D&C.

Acria - Sorry about BFN, I'm sure its just too early. Fingers crossed for Sunday/Monday.

Tina - How many days before O do you usually notice CM (mine starts usually 7 days b4 O)? Maybe you are going to O a little later.

Vanaithi - Good luck catching the eggy this month sweets, sounds like its not far away!

Hey, I have a quick question for the girls using progesterone cream in your luteal phase. Did you start using it because you had a short luteal phase or because you had a 21 day progesterone test that was low? My naturopath wants me to get a 21 day progesterone test done, but my luteal phase is always a healthy 15 days. I'd love to hear your story on why you started taking it and whether you think it could assist me (given I had one loss in Jan at 6wks, then a faint positive in April that went away)?

AJC - I just saw your post. It sounds to me like it is ok bc this has been very light on and off for a week now and it has never progressed to (red) bleeding. This is the stage where you mucous plug would be forming, some women get some brown or green CM around this time. I know it must be near impossible, but do try to relax, it really does sound ok to me. Gawd, just bring on that ultrasound hey so you can relax a little! Thinking of you.

Awwh, gotta get back to study.

[Where there's hope]

Jodsan - Hi. Did I have PMS symptoms? I was absolutely feral (Poor DH). I am also having night sweats, on occasion. Went from 36.7 Day 1 temp to 37.2 - Day 2 temp. I know that can be linked to peri-menopause (please not that ) or an infection. Have moved my FS appointment to Monday. Hoping he will listen to me.

Jen - good to be back. Loving reading all the banter on this Lunar stuff.

Acria - I still think it is sounding promising

AJC - Hope you get some good sleeps until your scan - your growing bubba needs it's mummy to rest so s/he can be big strong (and beautiful)

Would love to know if anyone else found their second period to still be a little strange and to be quite painful? Mine has been on time, but very light.

[Where there's hope]

Jodsan - Hi. Did I have PMS symptoms? I was absolutely feral (Poor DH). I am also having night sweats, on occasion. Went from 36.7 Day 1 temp to 37.2 - Day 2 temp. I know that can be linked to peri-menopause (please not that ) or an infection. Have moved my FS appointment to Monday. Hoping he will listen to me.

Jen - good to be back. Loving reading all the banter on this Lunar stuff.

Acria - I still think it is sounding promising

AJC - Hope you get some good sleeps until your scan - your growing bubba needs it's mummy to rest so s/he can be big strong (and beautiful)

Would love to know if anyone else found their second period to still be a little strange and to be quite painful? My first 2 cycles have been on time, but quite light.

[jen805]

Dr. Jodsan--You certainly never cease to amaze me with your knowledge! That's why I came to you! No slightly brown CM, but creamy white, and more watery last night than tonight. Doesn't seem like my cervix is as open as before. You're really amazing, thanks again! Guess I'll just see how it goes!


AJC--6 more sleeps! :woot: So excited for you!


Acria--Sorry to hear about your BFN--probably just too early, like you said. Good luck next try--when, on Sunday?


WTH--Hi, glad to see you're back! Sorry I can't help with your question on ovary pain--hope it gets better and you get your questions answered!