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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Nov 2005
    Bright
    972

    Hi everyone!!!

    Salt, just popping in quickly to confirm that YES, it's fine to have an internal U/S when you are pregnant. I've had one myself. In the very early stages, sometimes the embryo is too small to see with a normal u/s, but is clear with an internal....hope that helps.

    Hope everyone is having a great day...xxxx

  2. #2
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
    Perth
    766

    Morning girls,

    Janeo - let us know how the naturopath goes. That's something I wouldn't mind doing if it looks like it could help.

    Satya - I haven't used MB so not sure what that ferning means. It is definitely ok to have an internal scan when pg - I had one with my first pg. Also - at the scan, they will be able to tell you where you are at with your cycle, if you have O'ed or not or if you are about to. Hopefully that will help clear up where you are at! I hope AF doesn't arrive before then.

    SP - I am the same - my eyes get sooo puffy when I have been crying. I just keep telling people I have hayfever or a cold! Not sure how long that is going to cut it for. I also have those feelings when I see pg people and think that is where I should be. Princess Mary is due around when I would have been with my first, so I can't stand seeing pics of her in magazines! Why can it work out for her and not me - come on, share some luck around, she is already a princess!

    Well, we are not TTC this cycle. Last month DH decided that we should keep trying this cycle, and I was unsure as I feel that it will never work on our own. But last night, when I thought it was the right time to BD, he said no and that we shouldn't try this cycle. Anyway, I just turned away feeling rejected and confused, and then he said 'so you only wanted me for a baby, not for me?'. Sooooo awful, I said I wanted him for him, but as we have a 100% success rate at achieving pg each time we try, and we had no protection, then we couldn't DTD. He agreed, and he is not angry or anything, but I feel soooo awful. I hate that things have come to this - we can't just have fun and let it happen naturally like most people and I am so sick of this hanging over our heads. Don't get me wrong, we DTD just for fun at all times of the month, but I feel so terrible right now. I agree with him, there is probably no point in trying, as I feel it will just die if we get pg, and that we definitely need some help. I just hope that my dr has a plan tomorrow because I am starting to get really sick of this.

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2006
    853

    Yeah for sure Bun im going at 2 today so ill let you know tonight what he said and all that jazz.....

    And SP i also had a early internal u/s cos bubba was too small to do on my tummy, its a pretty normal practice..

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Sep 2006
    951

    Hi ya girls,

    Just dropping in to sprinkle lots and lots of

    love kez xx

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
    outer South East Melbourne
    2,881

    Hi everyone, hope everyone is doing OK.

    Bun - I'm sure your doc will make some kind of plan for you tomorrow. Is he a gp or have you already been referred on? I know how hard it is regarding the whole bd'ing thing when the hubby starts to say stuff like that. I went through that with the ex and it's really hard to deal with. Just do your best to keep the lines of communication open between the two of you and you should be OK. Good luck with everything tomorrow.

    janeo - I think it's great that you are stopping the temping for a while & seeing a naturopath.... relaxing a bit and natural therapies seem to work wonders with a lot of women.



    I've started to spot late today so I'm really hoping that AF can just hold off for 24 hours so I can get my ultrasound done tomorrow. I will be really annoyed if I have to put it off. I'd rather just get it over and done with. If I get it done tomorrow I will have results on Saturday of next week. If I have to delay it a week then of course the results will be a whole week later. Probably sounds stupid but at my age I really can't afford to have too many delays. I need to keep the ball rolling.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
    outer South East Melbourne
    2,881

    hi janeo,

    You must have posted while I was composing. That's great that the naturopath's visit went so well. My doc also thinks I may have pcos so that's why I'm off for my u/s tomorrow (if AF damn well stays away). Good luck with it all.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Hassall Grove, NSW
    847

    Hi everyone, sorry I have been AWOL but our internet decided to die Monday night and DH only managed to fix it tonight. There is just way too many posts to try and do personals, but Tonners, in answer to your question about what test I used, yes it was the pregnosis brand, hope that you get a darker line second time around though.

    AF still hasn't shown up for me, temp is still going down, but not yet below coverline, also had some spotting today, but now nothing else. Had a really good day yesterday, went and got my eyes tested for the first time since I had laser surgery done on them in December 2004 and was pleased when they told me I still don't need to wear glasses, there is a very very very slight change but glasses wouldn't make any difference and the change is more likely because my eyes have a constant "shake" so I can never completely focus on anything for long periods, it's pretty freaky at the movies though when the movie screen shakes from side to side.

    I'll be back tomorrow sometime (or should I say today) i'm now off to bed

  8. #8
    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2006
    853

    Well the appointment with naturapath went really well, he has given me a herbal tablet to get my cycles back on track he had just seen a women who has been trying for 4 yrs only getting 3 periods a yr and since being on it for the last 4mths she has had 4 periods so thats promising.. He also wants me to get tested for Polycistic ovaries so thats a bit scary going to see the Dr next week.... He gave me some acupunture and told me to up my zinc and to excercise at least 3 days a week......... So glad i went to see him and highly recommend you guys seeing one.... Ill give updates as things go along..

  9. #9
    *las* Guest

    Oh Lee, my heart just breaks for you and I am so sad that you have to be here

    I don't really have anything valuable to say, but want to send you lots of *hugs* and I know you'll get all the support you need here.

    Girls..I am such a twit, every morning I get up and forget to temp I think I'll just have to rely on guessing on when to start 'O' testing this month! AF is hellish, I guess I expected it to be a bit yuck first cycle back!

    Bun - hugs to you to! Are you ok not ttc this month?? I do understand your fears and where your DH is coming from, must be hard though.

    Jane - glad your appointment went well, sounds like you have found a good one!! Does zinc help woman with fertility too?? I know it helps MF, my DH is taking it!

    Sharon - so sorry about AF We are pretty much cycle buddies though...hope we can get each other through this month!

    Herbie - sending you sticky vibes...hope the next week flies by for you!
    Last edited by *las*; April 19th, 2007 at 11:27 AM.

  10. #10
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
    Perth
    766

    Lee - so sorry to hear about your beautiful boy. What an awful thing to go through. I hope you get some answers soon.

    Las - I don't really know how I feel atm. Part of me thinks there is no point in TTC as there is something wrong, and I feel that we need some kind of assistance to sustain a pg. But the other part of me feels time ticking by and it has already been so long, also - my specialist said there is only a 20% chance of finding a cause, and most tests have been done already, so that makes me think we should try anyway. But then it kills me to think of going through it again and I think maybe I need a break? I just don't know - will ask my specialist today what I should do but I know he will say it is up to me.

    Satya - I am seeing a specialist and have been for a couple of months now. I just pushed for it, as they usually won't send you to one until you have had 3 confirmed m/cs, but I am so sick of wasting time, so at least I have had a lot of tests done now. DH and I are fine - we are very open with each other and have what I would consider a very good marriage, but this does put a lot of pressure on us and we have both struggled with depression lately. I imagine years of this would definitely put strain on a marriage. Has AF started yet? I hope you are able to get your scan. They may tell you if it looks like you have PCOS, rather than having to wait til your dr appointment, of course they can't confirm anything, but can tell you how your ovaries are looking. Good luck and let us know how it goes. I will probably be having a scan today too at my appointment.

    Janeo - the naturopath visit sounds like it went very well. I hope it works for you! I am thinking maybe I will get around to seeing one too. My specialist suspected I had PCOS when I first went to see him and I don't, so try not to worry about that yet, it may not be the case.

    Sharon - I guess in a way getting AF is good, as now you can move on to another cycle, good luck for this month! That's great that your eyes are still good - I would love laser surgery but can't afford it and am not sure if I am even eligible. I get really dry eyes when I wear contacts, but sometimes I just get so sick of wearing glasses!

    Herbie - your EDD was just 2 days after the EDD of my first m/c. It is hard when that date is approaching and you imagine what life should be like now. That is terrible your DH saying he will be too old if it takes much longer! I find my DH often makes stupid comments without really thinking and doesn't mean what he says. Guys are a bit strange that way - my DH says the same thing (he is nearly 33), but I know he doesn't really mean it. Maybe tell him that it hurts you when he makes these comments and that really, he is not too old!

    Hi to everyone else.

    My mum phoned me last night to tell me that a girl she works with has just had her third m/c. She has been trying for a while and has no kids. I feel so much for people going through this. I said to give her my email and I will hopefully be able to help her. I know soooo much about this area now, having researched it to death for the last few months. I hope it all works out for her.

    Hi to everyone else.

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Nov 2006
    Hassall Grove, NSW
    847

    Lee my heart really goes out to you, I don't think I can even begin to imagine what a nightmare you must have gone through (and still are). I have only had early m/c so my experiences are going to be different to yours, but like most of the women in this thread I think it is very common to just want to be pregnant again straight away. :hugs: to you and your family
    *las* I am sure we will both get through this month and will hopefully be BB together
    Bun I am hopeful this will be a +ve cycle. As for the laser surgery, I can't wear contacts because my eyes dry out too easily (although apparently you can get contacts that "breathe" now) and I have worn glasses since I was 6 years old, my prescription before surgery was -5.75 R eye and -6.25 L eye (basically I was blind as a bat) didn't think I would be suitable for the surgery either, I will never have 20/20 vision because of my nystagmus

  12. #12
    Heybacko Guest

    Oh Lee, I cannot start to find any of the right words for this message to you but just wanted to add my support to everyone else's you have come to the right place and BB ladies are just the best.

    My 4th son was born with what was described as 'a bit of a colour' and 'laboured breathing' (they called it 'grunting' and 'singing' - all my babies have been born in the UK so not sure if different words are used here) - I left him tucked in his cot whilst I had a bath (UK practice) and the midwife placed him under a heat lamp in his cot - when I came back he was still making these noises - a midwife that I had known previously (not the one that delivered me) put her head round my door to say hello as she had seen my name on the board - she then noticed that Joe was still making these noises and called the Registrar. Then all hell broke loose and Joe was rushed round to SCBU (Special Care) and within half an hour he was on CPAP in an incubator - they did a lumbar puncture to rule out meningitis and took chest xrays.

    In the meantime, my HVS (swab taken when my waters broke - I was 36 weeks - it's routine in UK) came back positive for Group B Strep so they then suspected Joe pneumonia - this was then confirmed by the chest xrays - double pneumonia. To cut a long story short, Joe was in SCBU for the best part of a month on treatment.

    I read your post in tears because it scared me so much as to what could have been (I'm so so sorry - this sounds so selfish) and I do so hope I haven't upset you by what I have written - I just wanted to let you know what we experienced - we were told several weeks after, when we went back for Joe's 3-month check that we could so easily have lost him. It's just that there are similarities and I wanted to make sure you knew of a few things that need to be ruled out. I'm not medical at all so I am not sure what the difference between an autopsy and a coroners inquiry is - just some answers would be so welcome, I know that from m/c.

    I have recently lost my second pg after Joe, and I can totally identify with you wanted to TTC again, not waiting for anything or waste any time, I am still waiting for AF though.

    I'm sending you HUGE hugs and much love, Luc is a very beautiful name for you to have chosen for your little boy.

    Much love to you and your DH
    Alex
    xxxxx

  13. #13
    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2006
    853

    Dont think Zinc helps as such just that he noticed i was low in it and thinks that balancing my whole body is a start iykwim!!!!!!!

    Yeah im hoping it isnt PCOS but worth looking into it......

    Huge Hugs Lee you poor thing my heart aches for you.. I wish you all the best for the ttc journey..

    Sharon so sorry af arrived bring on the January babies....

  14. #14
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
    VIC
    1,053

    Lee- You will get any support you wish here. Luc is a great name for your son.
    :hugs:

    2008 will be the year for an increased birth rate. I wonder what 2008 is in the chinese year. Hopefully a positive one

  15. #15

    Dec 2005
    not with crazy people
    8,023

    hi ya girls - I hope you dont mind another gate crasher. I think I joined when I first m/c but got lost in transit for a while you probably all know what i mean
    Satya - I m/c on the 16th of March (twins who we called Sunni and Willow) and had a full m/c diagnosed on the 21st and I still dont have my pg back....makes me wonder now could I be?? I dont want to think of it yet cause I dont want to get my hopes up but YES a christmas baby would be extra special after what we have been through. IM sorry you got a BFN firstly, but it wasnt until I was 6 week pg that I got a BFP. God I want to go and buy a test now....
    Jed (DH) and I were taking a break until September to start trying again but I would love to be pg right now.
    Again girls, I hope you dont mind me jumping in, I would love to get to share this with you all cause you all understand the urge I feel.

  16. #16
    Registered User

    Jul 2006
    Logan
    2,991

    Hi Ladies,

    Just dropping into say hi and I hope you are all well.

    Lee - Welcome and I am so sorry for your loss. You sound like a very strong and determinded lady. I wish you all the best and the ladies in this thread are a wonderful support system. I am glad that you got to met your little angel, those memories must be so precious. Hugs to you and your family.

    I am doing ok atm. Morning sickness is all day sickness (I am not complaining) because the last 2 pgs I did not have any symptoms. Only 5 days till my ultra sound to see what/if there is a healthy bub growing. I am getting a bit nervous because it is between wks 6 and 7 that I normally miscarry.

    Janeo - Glad you decided to stick around.

  17. #17
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
    outer South East Melbourne
    2,881

    Hi everyone,

    Welcome Lee. I am so sorry for your loss of Luc. Such a happy event soon followed by such sadness, I cannot begin to imagine. I know you will find the support you are looking for here. We all have the same aim here and help each other through the bad days & celebrate the little victories together.

    Welcome maz. I am sorry for your double loss. Yes we do understand. We've all been through at least one loss and are all very eager to ttc as quickly as possible. I hope your lack of AF means a BFP is on it's way soon.

    Bun - how did you go at the FS today?

    Sharon - Damn that AF for arriving. It's very disappointing when you have started to think you are pg and then it turns out you are not. Fingers crossed for a BFP this cycle.

    Bekz - Sending you heaps of sticky vibes.

    Herbie - at 30 & 31 you guys are nowhere near too old so give your DH a swift slap around the ears for saying that. You were due on my birthday so I will have some special thoughts for your little angel on that day.



    Well my AF managed to stay away today so I was able to have my ultrasound. I had both the normal one and the internal one done. I was told there's no sign on PCOS which is what I suspected. I have no idea why my doctor thought that I could have it, I just knew I didn't.

    The operator spent ages measuring things & it took about 30 minutes to do both scans. I don't remember them taking that long in the past but it is a few years since I had one so maybe I've just forgotten. She didn't say much other than I only had two follicles which ruled out PCOS and that one ovary was very difficult to see. Not sure what that means.

    I noticed that there was a small dark blob in my uterus. I wasn't game to ask her what it was. Stupid I know, but I figured if she wanted to tell me she would, otherwise I would have to wait for the doctor. Of course now I'm back to thinking maybe I could be 4 wks pg as I've looked up 4 week u/s & that's how they look. It's probably more likely to be a left over clot that will expel sometime soon but I can't help but think it's something else.

    Anyway, it will be a long wait until I see my doctor Saturday of next week. I'm quite paranoid that they will have found something that is going to make TTC difficult.

  18. #18

    Dec 2005
    not with crazy people
    8,023

    Satya - OMG thats wonderful about your little 'blob' I'll be expecting to see you get a BFP in about 3 - 4 days.
    Lee - im so sorry your little man passed away so quickly. He is lucky to have found such an extrodinary mummy like you to cuddle him before he got his wings.
    Bekz - I cant wait to hear your u/s results.
    Just wanted to give you a little run down on me (sorry if I bore anyone)
    I got my tubes clamped after having WIlhelm because we thought we wouldn't be able to handle another baby with him being Autisic. I woke up from surery and kew I had done the wrong thing. My brother died in the following june and I asked him for a sign to let me know if I had done the wrong thing. I went to my doctors cause I was feeling cr@p and had a 'lump; im the middle of my groin. Thinking the worst (my sister had an emergancy hystercomy at 27 due to cancer down there) the doctor sent my for an u/s only to see a 'sac' and embroy that had died at 7 weeks. I was gob smacked. I fell pg 2 more times after that and then decided that was it, I wanted a reversal cause I knew I still had to be a mummy. I had my reversal in october 2005 and fell pg with Vyolett at my BIL wedding in december 2005. Vy was born in septebmer last year and lo and behold - I had a m/c last november. We decided to start trying again in October this year but I did a detox and went off the pill and we really weren't fussed if we fell pg again...and yep first cam the m/s straight away and VERY bad! oh yucky. Started bleeding on the friday and it stopped on the monday. Wednesday woke with cramps and more bleeding, so I went to the emergency department to be told (after u/s) that there were 2 and I had a complete m/s no need for a D&C. We had no idea until we m/c that we were expecting twins but they say the older you get the more chances of a multiple birht there is....god im only 32
    So I just wanted to share a bit about me so you have an idea of who and what i am. I cant wait to add to my family and would love to have another baby by mid next year. Im planning on trying to get my body right and chart everything so that I dont m/c again.
    thanks for listening guys
    xxmaz

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