Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage/Loss - December 2009

T-hopes woops my previos message was rushed no I have 5 more cycles until we start IVF or the procedure stuff so it will be more like 6-8months before we are well on the road if that makes snese. I have only been ttc since November after an ectopic pregnancy conceived in July and removed in September. I had to wait 3months before ttc again. I started ttc in August 2008, m/c in May 09 and EP in August/September. I had a lap and dye in November and the Gyno said give it 6cycles or the 6months ttc again before doing IVF to give us the best chance of a natural BFP. He said after 6months if I am not pregnant its unlikely to happen and seeing as it will be 2yrs ttc then he thought as did we that IVF was the next step. Clomid won't do (although I want some) as I O every cycle and IUI wont help as its tubal damage causing the problems thats why we will be looking at IVF and ICSI as DH has low sperm morphology and motility although he has excellent count. No I can't complain. I have 2 children already just I am still desperate for more. I thought iw would happen quickly like in the past and have brought baby clothes, maternity clothes that break my heart seeing them and not knowing if/when they will be used. If I knew after no2 that would be it I think I could deal with that but trying and loosing and still not having that baby I planned I just can't accept that. Well not yet anyhow.

T-hopes i completely agree, i did everything right last time, and still m/c. someone i know didn't even want her baby, kept getting drunk (she also keeps splitting up and getting back together with her partner, but that is another story) and she is fine. i've been going out and drinking for the past 3 days now (just a few mind you :) ) and just think sod it. if it's gonna stick it will.

dory at least you haven't got added stress this time because of the meds causing anything to go wrong. hopefully you can get your bfp next time :)

Emmy83 my o day is chrissy day so hoping for a september baby :) my birthday is in october also lol so i think i was a new year baby :)

craftymummy9 are you gonna test again or do you think af is coming?

Matthew's Mum at least you can get on with your tests now, and hopefully like dory said it can increase your chances of getting pg x

milly5 hopefully your dh has strong swimmers, fingers crossed for your tww!

well done with the nagging murraycod! enjoy your treadmill :)

hope the wedding went well mrs ferrals! :)

aww emmy so sad to hear what you have been through... its a real emptiness isnt it! we have a room full of stuff, bought our cot, high chair, furniture, clothes, even a new car - we were so excited. its very hard to look in that room some days, still so raw. we fell pregnant first try last time and we just expected that it would all happen again straight away. really hard also cause my friend is pregnant too, she is 2 weeks behind where i should have been, seeing her tummy grow is so heartbreaking for me, sounds so awful but i just hate being around her! too hard! Ive started taking Vitex, has anyone had any experience with it?
fairy - my husbands little sister had a daughter when she was in her late teens, after having an abortion a few months b4 hand!!!!!! her daughter is now 7 yrs old and doesnt even live with her. she is raised by my husbands parents (and has been for 6 yrs) who are almost 60. its so so sad and makes me so so angry. i cant even look at her some days, makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!! I wonder how there is God sometimes!
Dory - yeh hubby and I do laugh about the shag fest! he calls himself my sperm donor! lol! ive always worried that id have trouble conceiving as my sister was told she could never have children (has severe PCOS and severe endo) but she had IVF and now has 4 children - gives me hope and very inspiring when i think about the struggle she went thru and now she is living her dream! xx

PS how do i get one of those Tickers????

T-hopes i know how you feel! we bought quite a bit of stuff, clothes, cot, high chair etc. and it is very hard to go into that room with all the baby stuff.
and we fell pg first try too. i got to 12 weeks but had a missed m/c.
that 'friend' i was talking about was due same time as me and i have not seen her at all since my m/c. i really can't deal with pg people.
i have been taking a supplement called pms essentials, which contains vitex, and i think it got my cycles regular after the d&c. seems we have a lot in common.

to get a ticker go to google and search for ticker, there are lots of websites that do them. you get an address once you have created one and you have to paste it into your signature. hth x

Morning ladies
Well even when you already have kids people think its not so hard to have a mc but like all of you I also mc at 12wks and have maternity clothes and baby clothes just waiting in a box its the whole loss process that is heartbreaking and watching your dream end in a single minute when you either see the blood or the Dr says Im sorry your baby has no heartbeat " so like all of you we are in here for the same reason to give each other support and understand how we all feel ! so good luck to all of us in the comming year !

AFM well AF showed up yesterday lunchtime so here we go again !

wow fairy, we sure do have a lot in common! both had a missed m/c at 12 weeks in september with our first and first try too!!!! how is your man handling it all??
yeah i have been on Vitex for the last month, been fairly reg since D&C too. My AF started on Saturday and its just about finished today, shortest and lightest ever!!! Strange!

crafty - sorry to hear AF arrived yesterday, its the pits huh! at least this time of the year, there is so much going on, it will be time to try again b4 you know it! xx

Afternoon ladies there was a lot to read after my few days break from BB so sorry if i miss anyone.
Our wedding was beautful it was suppose to be overcast and cool on sat but it was sunny and 31 degrees everything went perfectly i even brushed up pretty good i am just so happy to have married the love of my life my hubby keeps texting me whats my beautiful wife up to ect he just loves calling me his wife the only little issue we had was as my girlie bits ( milly's problem also ) dried out and all the BDing we did i ended up with a shocking UTI and on antibiotics i was weeing razor blades and blood so we have yet to do the deed as husband and wife but we had plenty before so we can wait.

Thopes-sorry AF turned up you might get a new years eve baby.

Mathewsmum-good to see your FS has a plan for you.

Emmy-it would be nice to get a natural BFP and not have to worry about the ivf road.

SPF-i loved the comment mrs ferrals LOL and thats the way i'm thinking at the moment if i get pregnant and its ment to be then good no more TTC consuming my every thought.

Craftmummy-i have a whole nusery set up with all of abbi's things i am thinking of putting it away until we get pregnant and get the all clear at 12 weeks so i know it is hard even when we already have kids.

Well i have a bit of a winge to tell you last xmas at my family xmas party i was 8 weeks pregnant and my step cousin who is 39 almost 40 said to me why would you want another baby at your age and you should consentrate on saving your money blah blah blah well i found out yesterday that she is 35 weeks pregnant and almost 40 she would have fallen pregnant around the time we lost abbi and i'm like WTF what a biatch!!!! how dare she say that to me and now flaunt her pregnancy at 40 in my face GRRRRR!!! she is also having a boy so that make 10 boys out of 11 people around me that got pregnant after losing abbi with the exception of one sort of work friend she had her baby yesterday and i was told during her labour the placenta tore away from the uterus and she had to be rushed in for an emergency c-section the baby was without oxygen for 7 minutes so she is in intensive care and they have to wait for tests to see if she is brain damaged so sad.

Afternoon all-emmy-good luck for the new year...Dory-thanks for the info,i'll look into it.what has your day been like?..T-hopes & scarypinkfairy-hopefully you'll be needing to use all those baby things real soon...craftymummy-sorry you didn't get that special chrissy present,maybe santa lost some of our addresses,you'll be unpackng that box of baby things soon as well.

sorry ferrals-missed your post,glad your wedding went well,hope the antibiotics do their job asap,hope bub pulls through okay

Hey T-hopes
reading your post was like reading my own life today! my 2nd AF was due on xmas too... note i wrote WAS..cos i started to bleed today..(sorry) and i am gutted . Had my MC 2nd Oct at 10.5 weeks (blighted ovum) ...and was wishing that Santa would bring two lines for xmas but ..oh well ...looks like i will just get very drunk at work xmas party instead.
i went to the physio today and there was an new born with the mother in the waiting room and i had to leave i felt so suffocated, hearing that baby make sounds and see the mother look at it, i had to go outside it was so intense and in my face.

i have heard that acupunture can help with PG. i too was thinking abt going. i live in melb if you live in melb too can you recomend who you went to?
Again ladies you are my only out let. i cant talk to my sister as she is 24 weeks PG and i know she feels like I take away her happiness when i share my saddness, my DBF tells me, we cant assume it will happen first time like last time and tells me that I need to let it go cos it will just cause us more stress which is what we dont need. i really do feel i have no'one to talk to. i think my greif makes my famliy uncomfortable, cos there is happiness with my sis PG but saddness with my loss.
oh what i would give to have back the easy going head space i had before the MC. I know i dont write often ladies, but i can assure i read your posts and they help me.

Congrats on your wedding Ferrals :)

craftymummy you are so strong i so relate to so many things you have said. xx

scarypinkfairy i know what you mean, its PG woman and new borns and esp woman who mistreat thier PG, my bro ex is PG and is really is an evil person the emtional pain she has put him and her own children through is unforgivable and yes she is PG, shooting her mouth off to all at 8 weeks.

ok better stop now, he is going to wonder why i am tearing soon.

again ladies thank you for being there for me to just BBBLLUURRRTTT it out. :)

hi budgi
so so sorry to hear of your loss, it is such a hard thing huh. and so crap to hear you got AF! how good would a BFP have been on christmas day! I was so excited!! all comes crashing down so quickly though doesnt it! when my AF arrived last Saturday, it was the same day I was meeting up with my pregnant friend (who is 2 weeks behind what i should have been) i was such a mess, thank god it was outside and i was wearing big sunnies! I was a secret mess underneath my glasses!!!
I hope my story gave you some comfort, although its sad that so many of us have been thru this, its comforting to think that we are not alone! i have been finding it hard also to know who to talk to about this, my friends are beautiful but they cant possibly understand, nor do i expect them too! they just assume that because it was 3 months ago, that I am fine! So not the case, im still stuck back in September, lying on that ultrasound table, seeing my beautiful baby on that screen with my beautiful husbands hand in mine - hearing those lethal words - "im sorry, this doesnt look good... your baby is too small and there is no heart beat" :shakehead:
i had been seeing a acupuncturist in Ferntree Gully, Dr Wood(i live in sth east subs) he wasnt treating me for infertility but he was treating me for anxiety, stress, not sleeping etc and it was fabulous. my dad was diagnosed with cancer and I was having a hard time with it and this treatment really helped and i strongly believe it helped me get pregnant! i am calling him tomorrow to start seeing him again, he is brilliant!
what area do you live in budgi???

xx

Hi Ladies!


Can I have a moan - I NOW HAVE A RAGING UTI!! I could scream, peeing blood and razor blades (I'm pinching Ferrals description here) and on anti-biotics, which don't seem to be working! ouch!


OK, so now that is out of my system-

welcome budgi, sorry you have had to join us, but the ladies here are great!

T-hopes, crafty mummy - darn AF, she should just stay away when she's not wanted! Yep, drink lots of alcohol, caffine, and smoke too - guaranteed to work! It seems to work for everyone else except us, doesn't it?

SPF - DH swimmers are fine, it's me and my hormones which are up the $&%@!

ferrals - glad the wedding went well! shame you can't consumate it yet ;)

Emmy & Matthews mum - I have this cycle and next on clomid, and then if no BFP it's IVF for us too.

OK, so who is near testing? Bring on the BFPs!

budgi-sorry af showed,santa really needs a new bookkeeper,hope the acupunture helps next cycle...t-hopes-i think you were strong to still meet up with your friend,i have been known to hide from pregnant women...milly-sorry about uti,are you using ural sachets,they might help while waiting for antibiotics to kick in...

milly 5 i hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way, i just meant to swim through the dryness... sorry, can't think how else to word that. i hope you are ok after getting uti.
i think you should try to pee every time after dtd. the one time i didn't i ended up with a uti, then thrush from antibiotics. so make sure you take a pro-biotic like inner health plus.

budgi sorry you got af.

T-hopes hope the acupuncture works again for you. i could not be that brave to have all those needles stuck in me!

ferrals4 what a hypocrite that lady is! it's not ok for you to get pg, but fine for her! hope your friends baby is ok. keep us posted.

All the poor gals with UTI's! Word of advice? The probiotics are a winner if you get candidia/thrush but the meds that I had problems with recently are the once off "thrush treatment" tablets. Not recommended if you are pg but I only found out after I did some research, also not recommended when TCC either! My SIL is a Dr and she described the meds as "toxic". Should have asked her first! After the way I felt I agree!

I am having accupuncture now too, but I am in Qld, so not much help on the recommendations. I am a bit of a skeptic but some of the "predictions" about my cycle and flow have been spot on ( and are changes from my usual) so it's pretty amazing. I reckon its also helped me with my extreme fatigue, and mind fogs ( as well as eating more haem and non haem iron, but the accupuncturist also went through dietary issues). And I developed this wicked amount of water in my ear which wouldn't budge for 8 hours, but after 10 seconds of accupuncture it was gone. Sweet relief.

Budgie - welcome. sorry about your little angel. In my journey I have also had a blighted ovum, but at 8 weeks.

Mathew's Mum - heya how are you? Thanks for asking about my day. Today has been a good day, after a pretty glum day yesterday. How are you doing?

Scary Pink Fairy - heya, how you doing?

It's so easy and understandable to feel angry and hurt when we see someone who is not treating their pregnancy with the respect, care and wonder that the it deserves. I get angry too sometimes, but I find it is just too hard worrying about everyone or anyone else and the poor choices they make. I don't have enough energy for that. Instead, I just worry about me and what I am doing. At least there are some things that I can do that give me a sense of control. Not many, but some. And I am going to grab on to them with both hands.

I wanted to asked Ferrals4 about your wedding? can you tell me a bit more about it - the details....... I am a wedding tragic......

Also, sorry if it sounded like I was sermonising in the last post, What I meant to say, is that's what is working for me right now. Everyone has to find their own path.

Morning ladies.

Why is it in the TWW that we feel every little niggle and twinge and think OH! could that be implantion or is that the uterus starting to react to a baby burrowing in and are the sore boobs from hormones from AF comming or baby hormones.

Dory-my wedding was on the waterfront a beach/hawiian theme with frangipanis for flowers all the boys wore back knee length shorts with white shirts and black thongs and i wore a white full length cotton dress with gold and silver beading around the bottom it was fitted around my boobs and i had frangipanis with it and gold sandles i loved it casual but intimate we got some beautiful photos when i get a chance i will attach some to a post.

Milly-AWWW! i know how you feel i went to the doctors and said i need antibiotics and he said i need to test your urine first to be sure so when i came back with the jar and it was red fluid and not yellow he diddnt even bother to test it i always go to the toilet after sex except when we are in the fertile period and i never get uti's i think it was because my girlie bits had dried out after the progesterone sups i was on and the friction caused it.

AFM-i have had some light niggling and pulling sensation in my lower belly area but that could be anything as we all know anyway I have to run im off to visit my dad then off to work i will catch up with you all tomorrow night.

morning ladies! so sorry i have been missing AGAIN!!
Ferrals i am so glad that your wedding went of without a problem! i am really sorry to hear about your poor girly bits tho, not fair is it.

sorry that i am missing everyone else... life is way too busy to keep up with all these posts at the moment!
I am due for AF on christmas day... how much does that suck. I aam feeling quite a few symptoms tho so quietly getting my hopes up, but i know its probably just my head playing tricks on me!
is any one else due to test soon?

Hi ladies,
Had such a bad day yesterday. Found out a friend lost her beautiful bubba at 18weeks. I am so angry with life at times gggrrrr. This is the second time it happened and she has been ttc for 4yrs. I can't believe how unfair life can be at times vent vent vent. I just don't understand why some people have such rotton things happen to them. Not that having another bubba would replace the two boys she has lost but its very unlikely she will have another (age related infertility, IVF and both boys were lost due to APH which they can't work out why) I don't think its co-incidence. She was due at the same time as I was with my EP bub and I said to her that I am glad she was the one still pregnant not me (months ago) still don't understand why life can be so cruel.
Not much else to say. I am still in shock.
Yeah ferrals how was your wedding? Congratulations.
Oh also yesterday found out DH cousin is pregnant again with bub no7. She also has none in her care (all foster care) as she was caught using IV drugs in front of her kids when DOCS came to investigate. She also suffocated her newborn 6yrs ago accidently after using drugs. Surprisingly it didn't upset me the pregnancy annoucement I was just like typical. Why am I not surprised. Poor bub will withdraw of biodone plus heroine before it goes into care.

~mummyof4~ must have posted at the same time. I hope you get a BFP for Christmas and of course anyone else thats due to test around then or AF. Pray it doesn't show and a bubba does instead.
Ok we all must have been writting at the same time. Ferrals would love to see a picture. I bet its was lovely by the sounds of it.

Morning
Hi ferrals so glad you had a fab day shame your on the antibiotics but soon you will be back to normal and maybe you won't need to TTC anymore ! last time I fell pg I had terrible thrush and bladder probs but AF never showed it worked out to be the time of conception so fingers crossed for you !
Dory emmy T-hopes Mattewsmum and spfairy hope your all ok and trucking along this road of TTC feeling confident and ready for a 2010 Bub as I am awaiting too hopefully not too long for all of us,
Ferrals that women is just horrible saying what she said bet she was just jelous of you and then ended up in the same boat. I have had 2 in my 40s and my body was fine with it and as for money well its the root of all evil if you ask me children are gods treasures and we are so lucky to be blessed with them and we all will be blessed again soon !

AFM well AF is not being kind had dreadful cramps and really heavy bleeding the last 2 days but on the plus side I guess I will have a decent thickness of lining to grow a bub now, so heres hoping I don't have to wait too much longer my 45th bday is in April and I so want to be pg again before then I know my chances are slim but will keep trying anyways !and I guess with having regular cycles still at my age thats got to be a bonus !

Emmy - so very sad to hear about your friend, that is tragic... so very cruel. Sounds like she is very lucky to have a friend like you though -someone who can empathise and be there for her!
Crafty - we are just about on the same cycle date! one day a part! Lets pray that our BFP's arrive in January 2010!!! We'll be counting down together!
Ferrals - congrats on the wedding! Sounds amazing!
Mummyof4 - good luck on christmas with you testing!!! All my fingers are crossed for you!!!
xx

afternoon everyone,scarypinkfairy-I've heard if you have a good acupuncturist ,the needles shouldn't hurt,hope what i have heard is right....Dory-glad yesterday was better than the day before,i agree everyone has to find their own path but i think putting ideas& thoughts out there helps people to find that path...ferrals-hope their early pg symtoms...mummy of 4-good luck for chrissy day,keep us updated...emmy-sorry to hear of your friends loss,bet she's glad she has you..craftymummy-have you been busy with christmas stuff?..t-hopes-how are you?..murraycod-you okay?..afm-tubal test has been moved forward to christmas eve,so looking forward to getting some answers hopefully,pretty emotional day(bil funeral)went as nice as possible though.

All good here on the home front thanks Matthew'sMum, good luck with the tubal tests Xmas eve, so glad that it is so soon for you, I know I hate waiting for things!
Sorry that your BIL passed away, I hope that you and family are doing okay :hug:

Crafty honey nasty witch can really let you know she is around when she wants to! Poor thing. Getting AF is bad enough, but the cramps are just not called for!

THopes hi darling hope you are well, I do hope that you get your BFP soon X

Emmy83 so sorry to read about your friend, let her know we are sending her our regards, and we hope that she is okay (sounds so impersonal, of course she feels like crap) Hope that she can get through this XXX

Mummyof4 I hope that you do get a christmas miracle!!! You deserve one that is for sure XXX

Lets hope that all of these UTI's are all of a sudden around for good reason girls.....three of my GF's got UTI's when they fell PG, could be a sign!!!
Another sign to add to your list Ferrals!!!! Your right though, our mind can make us feel like we are going crazy during the TWW. Sounds like you had a wonderful day, hanging out to see photos!X!X:dance:

Dory very good advice on just worrying about ourselves in 'real world' life, can get very exhausting and stressfull otherwise, wish sometimes I could just turn 'OFF'. I will learn too!!

Milly5, hello hun!

SPFairy :hug:

Budgi and everybody, Hello take care, mabey I will be back tonight XXXXXXX

Picked up all of my meds yesterday, wow there are so many injections and pessaries packed away in the refridgerator ATM!! Move over vegies, not enough room!!
Getting closer!!!:D

hi matthews mum - yeah not too bad thanks, considering its Cycle day4! HUrry up ovulation! Im ready!!!! Giddy Up!
murraycod - thanks! i actually have a good feeling about next month! we'll see how good my instincts are!! :crossfingers: i see you live on murray river, vic! We have a unit in a van park in Moama! Such a beautiful spot! We go up there as much as possible!!

HI everyone else!!!

Hi ladies!!

UTI update - antibiotics have now kicked in (thankfully) - along with alternate doses of cranberry tablets followed an hour later by ural sachets (the acid kills the bacteria, and the alkaline of the ural eases the sting - don't take togegether or they cancel each other out). I did also get some probiotics, so thanks for the tip ladies, as I usually do get the yeasties after taking anti-biotics!

SPF - no wasn't offended at all :) I guess I just mis-interpreted your comment - yes lets hope DH swimmers are amphibious and can also cope with dry land!

just regarding his testing - before he got tested and we were talking about the "what-ifs" I was really worried that he may have had some problems too - for two reasons, obviously if we both had some problems it was going to lessen our chances, but I also knew that DH would feel guilty - we (as in us ladies) all know the guilts, and I think somehow women just cope better with it than men - does that make sense? I know that if it was DH with the dodgy hormones and then having to cope with hormone tablets and the possiblity of injections/ivf procedures etc he would be a complete mess IYKWIM.

dory - not sermonising, and glad things are good for you :)

ferrals - how are you doing today? Same for me (about the peeing after sex thing), and what dried me out was the clomid. It didn't help that during our "go go green days" DH was on double shifts and was a bit tired so wasn't quite as "in the mood" so it seemed to take him a bit longer:redface: so yep, it was friction burns here too! I guess we are just the "casualties of war" so to speak!

mummyof4 - AF for me is due 29, so hopefully my good news will only be a few days behind yours!

emmy - that's so sad about your friend. huge hugs.

murracy cod - I'm excited for you!!

craftymummy - I am impressed, I worry about my age and fertility, so 2 in your 40s, I am feeling more confident now, thanks! :D

matthews mum - hope you get some good news then on christmas eve - that would be a good christmas present!

t-hopes, budgi and anyone else I missed - Hello!!

ok ladies what is going on in this body!!!!
firstly thank you for all your kind words. You all are really the only ppl i can talk to about this. So thank you xx
that bleed that i thought was AF well now nothing. it was a wipe (sorry tmi) and that it.

and now all i have is cramping with nothing. could this be ' an implanation bleed' i have read about it and my sis reckons she had it. i didnt have it last time the bleeding that is, but the pain is familiar i had that, but dont have the sore boobs like the first time. so i just dont know.
i have my work xmas break up tomorow and i dont want any of them to copp on , so will have a couple drinks to throw them off. Anyway have been so stressed with all of this lately i could with letting my hair down and relax.
T-hopes thanks for your words, i live in the north, preston. I looked up and have found a good acupuncturist ( i know i spelt it wrong) in Fitzroy, she seems nice.
ok really need to get some sort of sleep. xxx if i dont speak to you again ladies

merry xmas.... may you get what you wish for xxx:lol:

Morning ladies

Mummyof4-wouldnt it be a great xmas present a BFP.

Craftmummy-hope your AF has settled down by now and i will be 36 in april what date is your b-day.

Emmy-sorry to hear about your friend i know all to well how painful it is i was almost 20 weeks.

SPF-i had acupunture and some needles i diddnt even feel and some did hurt but only in areas where the tendons are tight like my wrist and feet but otherwise it was fine.

Mathewsmum-hope your test goes smoothly for you.

Murrycod-getting close now i bet your getting excited.

Milly-i'm due for AF on the 31st lets hope we both get our BFP's for the start of the new year and i also worry about age and fertility as doing the PGD ivf and finding out all the info on hormones levels ect and then looking at what mine where and comparing them on the net my FS said she is not concerned but i know egg quality is an issue even if i am fertile and have plenty of eggs left the FSH level is the all important one.

Budgi-hope it is implantion i have never had it but i have heard of it.

AFM-yesterday i had some mild period like feelings but not sure if it was from the uti or what so i am just plotting along and i will try an add i photo of our wedding on this post for you to have a look at.

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Hello to everyone and i just wanted to let you all know that i am missing you all loads.
Im still popping in every couple of days to check for BFP's and to see how everyone is going.
Ferals i just had to post when i seen your photo and let you know that you look just beautiful and so do the rest of the fam. Im glad you had a good day and hopefully you can get your BFP really soon to cap it all off.
Good luck to anyone who is testing soon and wish you all a Merry christmas and a happy new year.

OMG ferrals you guys look stunning!!!
its a lovley photo!!!

Ferrals I love your picture you look wonderful.

Ferrals4

Wow ! what a lovely photo you look good girl ! nice to put a face to the posts.
Thanks for asking I am ok today AF is on her way out by the looks of it !
My birthday is 26th April so I hope to get a BFP before then as I will be 45 ( sounds tooo old I don't feel it at all running around after my lot all day !
Well girls christmas is nearly here have you all done your shopping ?
Mine is all done and dusted just waiting to cook my turkey tomoro so we can have it cold with lots of salads My first chrstmas in Australia and without my 2 older boys so will be hard for me but they will skype us on the day so thats good enough and they arrive here on 23rd Jan so not tooo much longer !

Hope all you girls in the TWW are ok and all those BDancing catch that egg .

Speak soon !:D

Ferrals - just wanted to post and say WOW!! you looked amazing and gorgeous on your wedding day! Congratulations! Was so happy for you, all I wish for you now is to see those beautiful two lines...I'll be lurking to see!

Arghhhhh i am so upset at myself... I bought some tests, ready to go for first thing tomorrow... and of course i had to try one tonight. I did the test and put it down and the phone rang I FORGOT about my test went back in about 15 mins later and there are 2 lines... the second one is faint but has colour but i cant take it as a BFP incase it came up after the time limit.... man i cant wait till tomorrow ROFL

Mummy of 4 - Did you do another test????

afternoon everyone-murraycod-good luck with the next step,it's getting exciting...t-hopes-were on the same cycle day...milly-glad the antibiotics are doing their job..budgi-fingers crossed for implantation bleed...ferrals-photo is beautiful...eliselouise-how are you feeling?..mummy of 4-fingers crossed,watching for your update..tinar-how are things going?..afm-tubal test was done this morning,found out that ivf will probably be our next step as both tubes are blocked,they were able to unblock right tube a little but they don't think it is going to be enough to enable a pregnancy,so talk to fs in the new year

Hi ladies!

budgi - I had implantation bleeding with mine - basically I spotted for three days, it was always on the toilet paper or on the towel after a bath/shower, but not enough that went on to my panties. I had been wearing a pad because I was SURE it was an early AF at the time, especially as it was a bit crampy. I hope this helps, and I am hoping that it is implantation bleeding for you!

ferrals - love the pic! re the pains - me too - either we've both got UTI twinges, or - fingers crossed - it's something better!

mummy of 4 - WELL??? did you do another test???

matthews mum - I'm glad you have some answers and now a direction. Good luck with the IVF!

AFM - well I'm feeling crampy and tired (is it a UTI, b build up to AF or c implantation? I choose c, lets see if I am right, though I really believe it's a). I'm trying to motivate myself to do that last bit of housework before christmas, but it's too hot, so I'm procrastinating!

I hope Santa brings us all lots of BFPs!!

im sorry guys i should have got in here sooner but i couldnt... it was a BFN i am so upset, i just was so sure evap lines should be banned

afternoon ladies

Just a quick post before xmass i worked all day then nicked down to the shops and we ran into an aquaintance that was pregnant when i was and two weeks behind me we havnt seen them since 4 months pregnant and they diddnt know we lost abbi but they came over and said high and look we had a girl what did you have well looking at her baby girl i just lost it and burst into tears and grabbed DH hand and walked away we diddnt even tell them what happened i felt every emotion come flooding back it was terrible then on the way out of the shops my hubby ran into his an ex girlfriend and she said i heard you were having a baby my DH said we were but we lost her then she said if you stayed with me i would have given you a baby WTF!!! if i was there i would have slapped her my DH just said i have the love of my life we just got married and we are happy and walked away but now i feel like i cant have my mans baby and its all my fault i know its not but i feel i have let him down when it is us together that has sick babies not us alone with other partners it is so unfair anyway i just needed to vent so i better go and leave you all to your families for xmass i hope everyone has a safe and wonderful xmass and we will wish for BFP's for all of us next year.

~mummyof4~ when if af due, is there a chance you could be testing too early? i really hope so x

ferral nice pic :) i can't imagine how that situation would feel. i am still avoiding all pregnant people/babies.

milly5 i hope it's c too! when are you testing?

Matthew's Mum good luck seeing fs. at least you know your reasons now, and you can get on with ivf. when do you think you will start all the meds and stuff?

craftymummy9 i hope you enjoy your first aussie christmas! we are just gonna spend the day on the beach with our 2 boys (our doggies :) ) and our turkey and veggies!
at least you get to see your other boys next year too. and they will be here to celebrate australia day with you.

afm i am in the tww. when can i test?!? i have purposely not bought any tests yet, although i keep looking at them in the shop. my dh just said ahh wait till the new year, they will probably be on special.... i know what he was getting at (drunken parties and such like), and it did make me smile.