Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss June 2007

[satya]

Hi everyone. I've just got back from my appointment and to be honest I'm a little shocked. I went thinking I might be coming home with a prescription for clomid or something to sort my hormones out as two GPs had told me my hormones were all over the place. Instead I come out on a waiting list for a lap & hysteroscopy followed by IVF.

The ultrasound results that I took with me show that I could have a fibroid. My GP had told me that was nothing to worry about and would not stop me getting pregnant. The specialist told me that fibroids can cause miscarriages and that the recent one could have been caused by it (if it is one). If it is indeed a fibroid they will get rid of it while they are in there having a look.

He doesn't want to see me again until I have had the procedures done. I also have to have a whole host of blood work done and DF has to go have a semen analysis. He's not happy about that. He was thinking as he already has a child he wouldn't have to, but I knew that would not be the case.

I just was not prepared for all this right now. I thought these were things that might happen later on but not straight away. I think it's due to my age that he's not prepared to sit around and wait to see what happens.

I don't have private insurance so I have to wait which is fine by me. The last time I had this done I only had to wait a month (about 10 years ago) so it will be very interesting to see how bad the waiting lists are these days. He said he'd do his best to get me in as soon as he can due to the age factor. He also said I might get pregnant again naturally in the mean time but now if I do I will panic because I will just think I will m/c due to a perhaps non existant fibroid.

I know it doesn't sound like it but I have taken the news pretty well. No tears yet, have felt them coming a couple of times but I've managed to keep them at bay. Maybe it will hit me later. I wish I had the whole day off work, I so don't want to go in there and face people, but I have so much work to do I can't just not go in.

I can't complain, I wanted a plan - now I have one.

[BekZ]

Bun - Good to hear that you got a cleat +ve test. I would do what the doc says and get the tests, at least you will know what is happening etc.

SP - I really felt for you last cycle and some times I found it good just to step back and take a break. With the cycle I feel pregnant I got heaps of EWCM and it was CD 14 (normally don't O until CD 16 to 18), so we dtd and I managed to fall pg. Even FF told me that I had not Oed until CD17!!!! So I would dtd tonight and then maybe stop for a day or so and monitor what your body is doing.

[Nexttime]

Hi,

A big thanks to everyone who posts in here. You all from afar have been a great support which I am unable to get from anyone else no matter how hard they try !
I had a missed miscarriage/D&C in early May and got my AF this monday. It has really thrown me for a loop and brought back all the feelings of the miscarriage. My DH and I will be actively TTC this coming month and reading all the posts in here gives me so much hope and encouragement that it helps to get through the bad days.

So thanks to you all .

[Bun]

Salt - yay! I thought you were feeling a bit down about your last cycle and that was why you were feeling down. We are all here for you to vent away if you are ever feeling down about things, so don't be a stranger! You don't have to post about TTC, it can be about anything! It sounds like you did have a v early chem pg, which is what I had a couple of cycles ago. It really got me down too, but it is v common, not that that makes it any easier. I hope you are doing ok. It sounds like you do have EWCM, so maybe you are going to O earlier this cycle! That would be great! I usually get up to a week of EWCM before O, so maybe you are just getting more and will then O at the usual time? Either way, it is sounding good!

BekZ - thanks for popping in. I am thinking maybe I will get the monitoring done. It totally terrifies me waiting for the results, but at least if they are ok I will have some reassurance, at least for a day or so!

Nexttime - welcome and sorry to hear of your loss. It can be hard getting AF for the first time, but it also means that it is time to move on and try again! It is a really hard road to travel down, but we are all here for you whenever you need to talk.

[Lee]

Hello!

Satya - Wow, there seems a lot to take in - but it really does sound like your man has a very definate and productive plan, that'll get you pregnant asap. I like people who don't mess around, no time to waste! You'll slowly absorb it all, and you may fall pregnant before needing to proceed down the IVF path anyway - after you rid yourself of the fibroid. I know you sound a bit overwhelmed, but also you sound relieved. I'm really happy for you, and well done for taking active positive steps to get what you want. Go girl!!!!!!!!!!!

Bun - thanks - I'm still in a bit of disbelief. I don't really feel pregnant yet. With my other ones, the symptoms didn't kick in till about week 7-8, then I got really yucky morning sickness - perhaps I won't get it this time, I don't care either way, just praying for a healthy little babe.

Salt - welcome back - and I laughed at your post - I don't think anything would shock us girlies in here!! Nor put us off our lunch! Sounds like O is on her way to you, guess you'll just have to BD often for the next week, that'll cover it - this is one of the upsides of TTC My hubby and I dtd everyday once a day around O, and it worked this time. Never been much good at holding back - and I've read that it's better to do it everyday - i.e. keep the fresh spermies incoming, as opposed to trying to stretch it out and only dtd every other day. I reckon go for it!! And praying for you this month - surely all the positives in here will continue to rub off on everyone.

Hello to everybody else.

Nothing major to report from me, which is good I guess. I'm trying to to constantly think "I'm pregnant" - and put it to the back of my mind - as I just worry too much about this or that.......... but being casual only works for a short time. All any of us can do is to keep trying and to believe it'll work out.

Hugs to you all.

Lee xo

[kiwigirl]

Hi everyone,

Feeling very blah today, massive temp. drop so not going to test and feel like AF is about to turn up any moment now. Maybe next month will be my month Think I need to have a break for a little while from here but will be back. DH was nice about it and said that maybe my body just needed another month to recover from everything.

Rachel

[timnik77]

Hi guys, haven't posted on here for a while but have been lurking about and reading the posts. Seeing all the new pg people is really encouraging and I am empathising with them as far as their worries and concerns are. I want nothing more in the world at this moment to fall pg again but when I do I will be petrified that something will go wrong again.

So anyhow it is now cd7 for me and have finished taking my 2nd cycle of clomid. The side effects this time around don't seem to be as harsh as the 1st. Maybe my body is a bit more used to drugs this time?? I had really bad night sweats and I was very moody all the time. Still getting the hot flushes, mainly in bed at night but I can cope with that.

I am using maybe baby to try to track when I am o but the ferning started already yesterday and then this morning it was pretty full on as well. I wouldn't be O this early would I? I know that I got about 4 days of spotting before the full AF hit and on the second day of spotting I took the first clomid tab but realised afterwards I should have waited until full flow so re-started a new packet of tabs on cd2. Would this be why I have the ferning happening so soon?

Feel like such a dill in here, everyone else seems to be so in touch with what is going on! Any advice would be appreciated

[Trying to be Postive]

megsmum - Oh thanks for saying that about vitex. Are you taking it at certain times only? Like up until O? Or after? I have heard so many different things... I am thinking I will need to take it before O so that it can shorten the time until I O! I really hope it helps, cos I would love to have a BFP next month!

Leyla - Thank you... I thought that my GP might jut say its a long cycle too, so I didnt bother going... but I am in so much pain today, so I am gonna see him tomorrow anyway... and see if there is anything else I can do. Hoping my next cycle is more normal.

Lee - Congrats!!! YAY!!! You have given me some more hope! I think the singlet was a sign!!

Satya - I bought some vitex, and just wanted to check when do you take it? The whole cycle or just certain parts? I really hope it helps us conceive too... if nothing else it might help my PMS... LOL I hope you are still feeling positive, because you do have a plan and hopefully this will lead to a baby in your arms!

TwoMums - Keeping everything crossed for you!!!

AF turned up last night, in full force, and I am in a huge amount of pain that no drugs will help! (naprogisic and panodol) I am ok, cos I didn't really think it was our month... but I am just worried cos it is soooooo heavy, and so much pain... but I am happy that at last she is here and we can get a clean slate - Thats how I am looking at it... but the pain and the heaviness is not nice at all... I am worried that maybe it is a Chem PG or an early MC... I am in so much pain... and I never get this kind of pain... I really hope it is just my body sorting itself out, ready for next cycle...

Do you think this pain is anything to worry about though?

Hope everyone is going well... and that those who are PG have a nice smooth PG!

[nicjay]

Hi Trying to be Positive,

I only started taking the Vitex this cycle on CD6, and started the homeopathics last cycle on about CD10 I think it was. Anyway, from all the reading I did about it, it seemed that the concensus was to take it throughout the whole cycle, and to stop taking it once you get a BFP. satya, you may want to correct me if I'm wrong?? Personally, I'd be getting onto it straight away if I were you.

I don't know if you are interested or not, but I'll mention it anyway, the homeopath has got me taking her stuff all the way through my cycle and says you should also take it for the first 3 months of pg. BUT, my understanding is it doesn't contain much Vitex and also does contain a whole lot of other stuff - not sure what.

I didn't mention in my last post, but interestingly I normally get really bad headaches around AF time and I didn't get them at all with my last AF. I reckon its more than a coincidence.

Gotta go, be back in the next couple of days to do personals! Hope everyone is doing well

[Trying to be Postive]

Megsmum - Thanks so much for your reply! I have started taking it today and will just keep taking it and see how I go... need to go home right now and get a heat pack on my tummy.... oooouuuuch!

Thank you again so much... I have to say that this forum has saved me... so much... you all have no idea how much better I am coping having found you all.

[TwoMums]

To Trying To Be Positive - Kims very first period after the D&C was very painful too, lots of bleeding as well, she had the hot water bottle all the time and panadol and panadeine if it got too bad...i think its fairly normal...everyone is different tho.

[claireabel]

Hi girls

Kiwigirl, i am sorry you're feeling so down, this whole ttc business is such a rollercoaster. I hope you have a high very soon. Your DH sounds lovely, i hope he spoils you over the next few days.

Salt, good to see you back in here, i've been wondering how you're going. i think from your description that's EWCM you saw, as semen is more brittle and doesn't stretch as much (noooo, not just from personal experience, from reading!). good luck this cycle.

Satya, that's a lot to take in. it's very overwhelming but i guess the silver lining is that your specialist is being very proactive and doing everything s/he can to help you have a baby.

Nexttime, welcome. you'll find this place is amazingly supportive. the girls here were wonderful when i joined and i hope you find comfort here too.

TimNik, i don't really know much at all about clomid so am not much help really. i also never had any luck with maybe baby either. i think though it might be possible to o early... maybe give it a few days and see what happens?

trying to be positive, hope the pain has cleared up a little. i suspect i may have had a very early m/c in jan, as i was much later than normal (and we'd been trying) but i didn't test before i got a really bad AF, very similar to what you're describing. if the pain continues then see your doc, but if not that maybe it's just an effect from the m/c or maybe as you say a v early m/c. hopefully you've got a clean slate for this cycle.

Bun - are you going to go on friday? good luck if you do, i know it's hard.
Lee - how are you? and Pash, are you there?

nothing new from me, except m/s has started, much earlier than last time. i've been a bit emotional, this pregnancy has me thinking a lot about the last pregnancy and baby and it's a real rollercoaster, v happy and v sad. i am seeing my obs next tues, when hopefully he'll be able to tell me everything's okay so far (although maybe not b/c i will only be 6 weeks). this stage in my last pregnancy i was thinking 'i'm going to be holding my baby in 35 weeks', and this time is so different, i just hope i'm still going to be pregnant next week. the goals are much smaller this time.

Hi to anyone I've missed, it's not intentional, this place is just so busy!

[nicjay]

No problem Trying! I hope those AF pains get better for you really soon!

[*las*]

Hi everyone!

Have had no internet access for days, have missed sooo much!

Lee - congrats!! Wow, so many BFP's, this is great! A few more would be wonderful.

I will catch up later on personals, have so much to read through.

Am 1 week into my 2WW, feeling very crampy so not sure that it's a good sign.... BT is next Friday, not sure how long I'll be able to hold out before wanting to do a HPT.

BBL for personals.

[mouse]

Hi everyone. I haven't been in for ages and looks like I've missed a fair bit of action!!!

I've needed a bit of "me" time of late. Losing patience with the TTC at the minute. So many of our friends are now having babies (2 babies born just on the weekend!) and although we are extremely happy for them, we're both finding it very hard at the minute.

This month I took to using an ovulation kit for the first time as I had tried Maybe Baby and the temperature thing, neither of which really seemed to do it for me. The ovulation kit only once gave me a feint line in the 5 days that I tested and that was day 13 (my cycle is usually 25 or 26 days). So, technically my period is tomorrow, but not being able to contain myself, I did a test Wednesday morning and it came up with a very faint second line, but it was a Fortel Ultra test, which I have since found a thread saying how it has been false for a lot of people. I used the same test the first time and got a faint line, so not sure. Fingers crossed, but I don't feel too positive about it. My boobs are swollen and a little sore at times, but I think I am talking myself in to it!

Have already made an appt with GP for next Wednesday as I would just like her to check that all is ok whether I get +ve pg or not......a bit nervous that maybe I'm not ovulating properly since the results were so faint.

Well enough from me! Great to hear everyone's news and I will be sure to stay in touch more this time!

Hugs to all
xo

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Mouse - I hope there's a BFP on its way to you.... sounding very likely.

Bun - glad your HPT came up so quickly - that's a very good sign that all is well.

Nexttime - Sorry for your loss. I hope your TTC journey is a short one.

Salt - glad you are feeling better and I wish you lots of luck with this cycle.

Lee - I'm happy that all is going well with you.

Timnik - the MB detects estrogen so if you have high levels in your system it will fern. I found recently that I had ferns just before my AF and of course I hoped it meant that I was pg but I wasn't. I've had two lots of blood tests done for estrogen levels and both times they were high so I don't use my MB anymore as these levels will obviously affect the result.

Trying - I take Vitex on waking and I take it every day of the cycle. I hope your AF has eased up.

Claireabel - enjoy every moment of your m/c - it's a great sign that all is well.

Sorry to anyone I've missed.



I'm feeling calmer today. It was all a bit of a shock yesterday but I'm over it now. Right now I'm not so worried about the whole IVF possibility, but a little worried that I will get pregnant naturally and then stress majorly about having a m/c because of a stupid fibroid that may not even exist (they wont know for sure until they get in there & have a looksee). I know if I do get pg before the op I will be mega paranoid about m/c.

Anyway I will probably disappear over the weekend as my DF & I are going away for the weekend. My parents are away for a couple of weeks so we are heading off to the beach for the weekend to stay at their house. Not exactly beach weather in Melbourne at the moment but it will be nice to walk the dog along the beach and eat out and do lots of relaxing away from our own home. I'm really looking forward to it.

[nicjay]

Hi everyone,

timnik - you need to buy an ovulation thermometer, they measure to 2 decimal places whereas a regular one only measures to 1 decimal place. If you ask at a chemist they should be able to help you. I'd just start charting now if I were you. I'm so sorry about your house I'd feel down about it too. That would be just awful having termites, hope its all fixed soon and that you feel better about things soon too.

satya - That's great that the FS has a plan for you now - I know I always feel better knowing what is going to happen. I can understand your worry, but try not to stress about the fibroid I'm sure it will turn out to not be a problem. Hope you enjoy your weekend at the beach!

Leyla - I read stuff saying only the first half of the cycle too. I can understand what you're saying - if you only take it for the first half of the cycle will it then take 6 months to have an effect?? LOL I hope not!! But seriously, I found more info that said to take it for the whole cycle rather than just the first half, so I decided that that's what I'd do. I'm also taking a vitamin B supplement as well, because the main reason I'm doing the Vitex is because I have a short luteal phase. But I think it has probably been more the homeopathic medicine that has had the effect for me at this stage anyway, because I've been taking it for a month longer than the Vitex.

mouse - all the best for your GP appointment, that all sounds very promising

*las* - all the best for next week!

Claire - sorry to hear about the m/s - yuck! Hope your appointment next week goes well

kiwigirl - what a bummer! But good luck for next month!

nexttime - all the best for when you start to TTC!

salt - sorry I can't help with your question, but I hope you are doing OK now Good idea to BD just in case I think - good luck for this month!

Well I'm now 10 (or maybe 11) DPO, so only a few more days to go I'm really not sure when I'll test if AF doesn't show up, maybe Monday. With all the changes that I've had this cycle - early O - I'm a little bit confused and have got no idea when AF will show up if she does. I hope not!!

I went and had blood taken for CD21 hormone levels today anyway - I had a request from my gynae visit last month, so I thought it would be best to get them done this month just to rule out or find any problems. At least then if I'm not PG this month I will know whether there is a problem or not, and if there is I can hopefully get something done about it.

I'm feeling quite positive about it all though - I've been really hungry the last couple of days and I think maybe I'm going to the loo a little bit more often than normal. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much though - don't want to be disappointed if AF shows. Cross your fingers for me!!

Hello to everyone I've missed, hope you are all well

[Leyla]

Hi ladies,

Boy you girls can talk! I'm seriously struggling to keep up!

Mouse - sounds really positive (pardon the pun)! A line is a line! Hope the bt comes back with strong positve results!

Satya - Wow, your appointment sounds so full on. Sounds like they are not stuffing around though which must be a huge relief. Even though it must be scary as hell, its good to know that they are taking it seriously and going to make things happen for you. You have to laugh about the DH test thing though, they really get off quite easy compared to us girls, but still find a way to be offended by it!

Salt - Hope you have been busy! Sounds like we might be cycle buddies? Hope you caught the eggie. Am I right in assuming that loads of EWCM is a good sign? I have had heaps this month, unlike the last 3. I'm putting it down to forcing myself to drink 10 glasses of water a day and taking Macca root.

Bun - Glad things are going well. Must have been so satisfying to see two nice dark lines come up again. Have you started getting m/s yet?

Claire - Sorry that the m/s has kicked in. Hope you appointment goes well next week.

Megan - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and Kim, and hanging out to hear your test results. Hope you get a nice big jucy BFP!

Susannah - I was wondering about the Vitex thing. I had read some stuff about only taking it during the first part of your cycle. But then I also read something about how it takes about 3 months for you to see any benefits from it... so not sure how that works if you are TTC because you would only be taking it part-time. Does that sound right?

Tryingtobepositive - So sorry that AF is so painful. I hope it does not last too long. The only positive thing about heavy AF's is that it cleans you out for a nice sticky new pregnancy... or so I'm told.

Timnik77 - Sorry honey, never tried the ferning thing. Sometimes our bodies do strange things though. After my last cycle, I decided the best course of action is to start BD'ing at CD8 and go from there until you are 100% positive that you have O'ed... and then BD for another 3 days.. just in case. (Can you tell I am bitter about missing out last cycle?)

Lee - hope you are doing well. Sending you loads of sticky vibes!

Kiwigirl - Sorry about the nasty temp drop : ( 12DPO is not unheard of for a implantation dip? Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Nexttime - Sorry that you are feeling down. Good luck with TTC this month!

Lisa - How much does the TWW suck! Cramping could be a good sign! Did you have it with your last?

Well I'm still waiting for my temp to rise, but I think I may have O'ed today. Have not been using OPK's this month as they have not worked for me the last 3 months and could not be bothered waisting anymore money on them.

I have a question though, today when I was checking my CM at work I noticed a tiny tiny tiny amount of pinkish blood in my CM. Has anyone else every had spotting with O? I have read that it is not common, but that women only usually pick it up whilst cecking CM closely as it is such a small amount. I'd love to know if anyone else has noticed it...

Big hugs to anyone I've missed. Hope all is going well.