Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss November 08

Hello Ladies,

Oh Toccara and Mannie sending you all the care I have at the moment. Lots of :stickyvibesgirl::grouphug:

Afraid no more personals this morning as I am decidedly crazed. Well after testing on Friday (D11-12 PO) and getting a BFN with the 'super sensitive' forelife tests and then having spotting (very light) on Monday, AF has not showed up! So this morning I POAS and now I have a :bfp: !!! Argggg! Boy, those 2 glasses champagne are now sitting heavily on my conscience!!

Also, now having hugely conflicting feelings, lots of fear, as in, why did I have spotting- too late for implantation surely (???) and also, why can I only detect HCG now (D15PO)? Do I suck at making it?? But also have very excited daydreams about actually having a bub... Also, DH is away again for work and in a different time zone so can?t talk to him about it yet- also, do I tell him? Don?t want to get our hopes up too much, but having trouble keeping calm :pray:

Anyway, thought I you ladies wouldn?t mind too much if I had a small brain explosion here. Also thought if I drifted through I could pick up some :stickyvibesboy: that might be around.

Take care all, Indy

Dearest Tocarra, I am so terribly sorry to hear that your angel has left you :( You are an amazing person, and your DH must be too to go through all this heartbreak with you. Remind each other of the love you have for each other, and why you are going down this path together and I'm sure that you will both find your way. Take care of yourself. :hug:


Today is the EDD of my angel, and while I'm trying not to get too upset and am trying to focus my emotions on the little miracle in my tummy, it's hard not to shed a few tears for the baby that will never lay in my arms. I've spent the last half hour or so cuddling the little star teddy that we bought for our angel and tonight I will look up into the sky in the hopes of seeing the brightly burning star that we named for the baby.

Hi I am hoping to join, will be testing December 19. Sarted TTC on Monday.

Toccara my thoughts are with you, keep the lines of communication open during times like this, allow each other to cry and scream and greif - but never blame. It is so important to go through this together as one - no-one is ever to blame for this horrid experience. As plc1805 said "the key is to get answers and then there will be physical proof". All the best sweetheart, we are always here for you xoxo

Toccara - I wish I could be with you and give you a huge :hug: Life is so unfair at time, you shouldn't have to go through this yet again. Please give your DH a hug from us and let him know that you have lots of people thinking about the two of you. It's such a hard event to go through.

Krystie - Here's a special :hug: for you too. The EDD is such a hard one to get through, no matter if you've got kids, got one on the way or still ttc. It reminds you about lost dreams that you and your family have. Thinking of you.......

Indy - : congratulations. Sometimes, nothing shows up until well after AF is due, others get in early. Enjoy the ride:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

Mumstheword - :welcome: Sorry for your loss, You've come to the right place, the girls in here give so much - a shoulder to cry on, arms to hug, lots of support and heaps of ears to vent to when needed. We've all been through losses and I know without the girls in this group, I wouldn't be where I am today.

Tempus - :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy::happyforyou: Congratulations. You were one of the support team around when I first joined. I'm so glad you've got your BFP. Hoping and praying all goes well for you.

AFM - As a couple of the girls on here know, I am stepping back from TTC. As most of you know, my angel left us just over twelve months ago and I am ready to step back from TTC. I am now at the stage of Whatever shall be, shall be In that, If I'm meant to have another bub, it will happen, but it will happen by itself. It took 10 years to conceive my last bub (my angel). It's now time to concentrate on me, to look after my family and myself. I will still pop in (and lurk). My one desire is to see this thread close down - in that there is no longer any need for it - however, whilst there is, there will always be support here and a great bunch of women to hand it out.

I am so looking forward to seeing BFP's and birth announcements from all the girls in here. I'm hoping that 2009 is a very productive year.

KrystieLove, my thoughts are with you on the EDD of your little "wedding night angel" (AAwwww that is so sweet and precious). It must be an emotional day for you sweet, I shed a tear reading your beautiful post. I hope the biggest brightest star shines back at you tonight, you darlin' girl. lots of huggles.

AAWWWW mollycat, I was just getting to know you! All the very best to you, I hope whatever will be "WILL BE" for you in 09. Go out there and spend some time on "YOU" - you deserve it. Thanks so much for your kind words, support and encouragement during the week (I only joined last week). Everyone on this site is so supportive and just gorgeous. I don't know what BFT stand for but I am guessing "positive pregnancy test" or the likes, and I hope to have one of these in the new year. Have a wonderful Christmas mollycat and all the very best to you and your family in 09.
P.S. love the Hunter Valley, we go out that way a bit for Sunday drives.

Hello mumstheword, welcome and all the best for the 19th - keep us posted.

Just a quick note to say "hi" and send everyone my best ... too busy at work today for more

Hi Ladies,

I appreciate all your kind words and thinking of me at this time just as I'm also thinking and praying for you Toccara, unfortuantley it was not meant to be for me either, had more bleeding today and cramping too, so have taken some pain killers and will leave work soon and go home early. Not sure why this keeps happening, have no answers. My DH was upset but positive and very optimistic when I told him today at lunch, he said it will happen for us, not in our time but in God's time, so we just have to trust in God and know that he loves us and we will have our forever baby soon.

I have the list of the tests that is on the recurrent miscarriages thread and will request these tests done via my GP tommorrow. No point getting my HCG levels done as they should be back at zero by Friday.

We were so looking forward to telling our families at Christmas time oh well lets hope its fourth time lucky instead. We are giving ttcing a break over Christams until all the tests come back. I promise!!

thankyou for all your wonderful prayers and stickyvibes. I'm giving them all over to Indy and Tempus now... :) Goodluck girls!!

Mannie - I'm so, so sorry ...you will have many of us sharing this journey with you in January

Toccara - I am so very sorry. It is just so cruel. Make sure you and DH give each other lots of hugs. I can understand your DH wanting to put blame on something or someone and have a reason for why this has happened. But you need to keep telling each other it is no-ones fault. We all want answers. I :pray: that you find these answers and it is something that can be easily fixed. :hug:

Mannie - I was so hoping I would arrive home from work tonight to see everything was ok. I am so sorry it wasn't to be. Big hugs for you and your DH as well. :comfort:I wish there was something more I could do or say. I would definitely be getting every possible test done to try and find some answers. :pray: for you at this time.

HannahD - It's not over until AF shows her ugly face!!! :crossfingers: Isn't hard to hold off from testing?

Kristielove - :hug:

Indy - Congratulations :happyforyou:

Mollycat - I'm sad you are leaving the thread but I completely understand that you would need some 'you' time. This TTC journey can so so consuming. It often happens when you least expect it or are not 'trying' so you never know! Feel free to keep 'lurking' and pop in from time to time.

Mumstheword - Welcome. Sorry you've had to join but you will definitely find wonderful support here.

Hi to Maddysmum, buliej, possums, tempus, jen, plc, AJC and all the other wonderful ladies on this thread.

AFM - just went for my 2nd blood test to see if I ovulated around day 22. Hopefully should have the results by tomorrow afternoon. I know I definitely didn't o around day 13 as AF hasn't showed up yet. Does it sound awful to say part of me hopes I haven't o at all this month? (Complete turnaround from last week when I was in tears about it!) I guess I just want a reason why it isn't happening and I would be happy to try clomid. But then I worry Clomid wouldn't work for us....:wall:

Indy - Congratulations on the BFP! :stickyvibesgirl:

Krystie - Of course you will still grieve for your angel honey. Thinking of you today as you remember your angel. :hug:

mumstheword - Welcome. Goodluck with your TTC journey. Sending anti-AF vibes for the 19th.

mollycat - I'm sad you're leaving, but good on you for taking time to focus on you. All the best for you and your family in 2009. :hug:

buliej - Hi!

Mannie - I'm so very sorry. :comfort: I hope you can get some answers. Enjoy your Christmas and I wish you and your DH all the best for 2009.

Mel - I completely understand the turnaround. This TTC journey is just so hard sometimes, I don't know whether I'm coming or going. :hug:

Hi ladies.

I feel a bit selfish posting about my 20 week scan when there is such heartache going on with some at the moment. you are in my :pray: and my thoughts.

My EDD is fast approaching for our angel baby with it being 26th Dec, boxing day. I'm a bit apprehensive about the day but i'm sure DF and I will get through it with the strength we give each other.

Well..... my 20 weeks scan went amazingly. Everything is in the right place, doing the right thing and it the right size. I have some more wonderful pics which i posted in the gallery, so please take a look. I'm so pleased everything is ok. it's such a huge relief.

I'm not feeling to great today tho as there is a lot of sickness and tummy bugs going round our office at the moment and i think i may have caught it. and drinking lots of water and crossing my fingers and hoping i havent got it.

Thats it from me, sorry no time for persies as i'm at work.

Just one thing, thinking of you all.

xxxx

Fificlaire - that's great news about your scan - you must be so excited (and relieved).

Indy - congrats on the BFP - many people have champagne and more for many more nights than you before they know they are pregnant - I wouldn't worry at all.

Mollycat - your decision is so understandable - I wish you all the best. And who knows - maybe we'll find you back in a preg thread!

Hi and wishing only the best for everyone else...

Mannie and Toccara - Oh no - I am just so sad on hearing your news ... it just is not at all fair - just wanted you to know that you're both in my thoughts :hug:

KL - thinking of you today ...I had my first angel's edd recently and found it a little more emotional than I expected... enjoy your moments thinking of your first bub - and know that the baby you are pg with now is going to have a very special guardian angel with them always :hug:

Indy - congrats! :dance: Here's a large helping of :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy: for you ... and I always get spotting 14-16 dpo. When I've told my GP about it she still called it implantation spotting... I made sure I got some quantitative hcg tests just to reassure myself anyway ;)


Hannah - sounds like you are way better at using the zen-vibes than I am! Maybe you should be in charge of them from now on... hope you're doing ok lovely...

AFM - had a whirlwind baby check visit and scan with the ob yesterday. Bub gave me a minor nervous breakdown by lying completely still when the scanner first went on - ob was very quick to point out the heartbeat, and gave me a listen too (aaah!). As soon as I asked if ob could measure bub, it started up it's usual roller-disco moves and just would not be still for long enough to get a good measurement. She said she's very happy with everything - and that bub has grown the right amount. I have allowed myself a small amount of relief - and am hanging out now until the nt scan on 12 Dec (9 more sleeps!).

Love to all - make sure you continue to take good care of yourselves and each other :grouphug:

xx

Good Wednesday Morning Gurlies!

HannhD...hey young lady! How goes it with you...BFP yet?

Toccara...aww hon...BIG HUGS for you and DH...this is a very trying time for you both emotionally...you must try to support one another which in the end will make you stronger in your relationship...be well!

Indy...WOW! :dance:

mollycat...I am such an arse! I never responded to the email you sent me and I promise I had every intent to...I apologize! I can tell you I have been going back and forth with the whole TTC issue...I truly wish I could get to the place where you are in whatever happens happens...but it's nearly impossible...I know too much about my body now. I often try to "trick" myself into forgetting my "O" time or my AF time thinking if I "forget" I'll somehow find myself pg...nuts I know...it's just so difficult. I am getting a little bummed because I am 37 soon to be 38 and we m/c 12/19/2007 with no BFP since...I am trying to remain positive but sometime you just wonder...why? Ya know...
Anyway please continue to email me (I'll be better at responding *wink*)

mannie...:hug: I am so very sorry...

AFM...getting the typical AF symptoms...I guess this isn't our time...

:bluedust::pink-babydust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Mannie I'm so sorry you have to go thur this again I was checking back to see how things where going with you big :hug: and if you need to talk email or IM me and I will listen I hope you get some answers and the forever baby you are hoping and praying for...

Thanks everyone for your kind words and prayers I wish you all could be here to give me real hugs too its hard when no one around you knows what its like to go thur this and I'm so tried of hearing people and doctors say it common to lose a baby in the first tri or atleast you where not that far along ... I'm to going get tested and have DH get tested if we make it past this but I'm sure if I even wanna try again because I'm go crazy worrying about m bub the whole pg ...

Hey all,
Thanks for all the good wishes. Hanging in here, off to the doctor tomorrow. Thanks for the reassurance Jen, still spotting a little bit and feeling sort of bloated and achy so excited but really quite scared, looked back at my diary and this is what happened with the mc in July so uggg.
POAS again this morning, but not a super sensitive one and the line wasn't as dark as the other tests (not surprising if it needs more to detect a signal) but was hoping for darker as I'm now D17PO. Anyway, can't do anything except wait (as you can see, very good at that- not!).

:grouphug::stickyvibesgirl::bluedust: to all,
Indy

Indy: congratulations on your BFP :dance:
I think one of the bad things about these at-home pregnancy tests is that we know so early that we have that much more time to worry about things than our mothers did when they were pregnant. I'm 41, and when my mom had me, she had to wait until she missed two periods, then they did something called a "rabbit test". I'm not sure what that was, exactly. Best of luck

KrystieLove: sending cyberhug.

mumstheword: welcome and :bluedust:

mollycat: it must have been hard for you to come to that decision, but it also sounds healing. You do get to a place where you just have to move forward with your life. People don't always understand just how all-consuming ttc is (or how trying--people always think it's "fun"...stupid people...). Hope you won't be a stranger!

Mannie2903: sending more cyberhugs. I'm glad you guys are talking it out and able to come to some agreement as to your outlook on this. I also believe in leaving things to God's timing, but it's so hard sometimes!!! Will be praying hard for you, too.

Mel1979: keep us posted and I'm keeping fingers crossed for you

fificlaire: I"m so happy your scan went well! Sending encouragement vibes for the 26th

jenushka: congrats on your scan! You must be so happy and relieved

smilanatu: so sorry. Sending cyberhug

Toccarra50: IKWYM. Just because early loss is "common" doesn't make it any less heartbreaking. Sending lots of cyberhugs and prayers in your direction. Thank goodness we have a place like this to come and vent...

AFM: I had a major freak-out last night, worrying about everything from "are my b00bs tender enough" to "why aren't I going to the bathroom more often". I'm more calm today, but I guess that's what happens when you've had losses before and then become pregnant. You worry about EVERYTHING...

mannie - I am so sorry to hear your news. Big Hugs and my thoughts are with you. I think you will feel much better after you have done some tests. My Ob did some with us after m/c No. 2 and I was so much more confident when ttc again.

jenushka - yay, so pleased for you. Breath that first sigh of relief. It's so hard to relax and enjoy a pregnancy (after m/c) but I hope you're able to do that soon.

fifi - yay, wow half way - such a good feeling.

Seem to be a few people with edd dates coming up - big hugs for you and hope you are all able to do something nice to reflect on your beautiful little angels.

Sorry in advance for the me post, but I'm not feeling up to much today.

I woke up at 4:30 this morning with major cramping and a headache. AF has arrived. 3 days late. :angry:

At least now I'm sure. I was just so hoping to be pg by Christmas. Now I feel stupid for getting my hopes up. :wall: Even DH said he was disappointed as he was looking forward to a positive result. Thats saying a lot for him since he usually remains neutral so I don't get my hopes up even more. I just feel achy and tired and miserable. Its one thing that I'll never have the innocence of first pregnancy again. Now I'll never be able to just go with the flow while TTC (like last time). The need to be pregnant again is just too much.

Hi Ladies,

It has been such a long time since I have posted in here...uni has been crazy for the last few months of the semester, but I am now on holidays....FINALLY!

I dont think I could possibly catch up on all that has been going on in this thread for the last few months, so I will do a few general messages...

- To all the newbies (and some who are not really newbies anymore, but are lovely ladies I have not yet had the pleasure of meeting) hello and :welcome:. Sorry you had to be here, but glad you have joined our wonderfully supportive group of women.

Toccara and Mannie - Im soooo sorry that you are both going through this. Its soooo hard, not matter how early in your pg'cy you were. I hope you get the answers you need. I too have had 3 m/c in 12 months and have only just..this week...went and had all the relevant recurrent m/c tests. I hope to get some anwers from those tests. :pray: that 2009 brings you both your forever babies.

Jenushka - I am over the moon for you hunny :dance: You must feel so relieved. Good on you darlin and what a wonderful christmas pressie for you and your family.

Fificlair - Congratulations on a wonderful 20 week scan...how amazing is that sight!!! I still remember how in awe and love I felt as I watched my baby boy wiggle on the screen...a real miracle!

Tempus - CONGRATULATIONS...Wow, you must be over the moon hun. Im so glad that time away from bb brought this wonderful surprise. Wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months.

CONGRATULATIONS to all the other wondeful ladies in here who got their BFP's this month...there is no better chrissie present than that hey? Wishing you all the best for you pg'cy journey.

A special hello to Jen, who never forgets about me....you're a star darlin'!

To plc and AJC - I could not believe my eyes when I saw how many weeks both of you have left....WOW...you guys must be getting so excited. :bellyrubs: for both of you.

WTH - Im so sorry hun, this is such a dificuly journey and never gets any easier. Huge :hug: for you.

And a special hello to all the other wonderful ladies in here :hello:

Now for a 'AFM' - This week I have had 2 faint BFP's....again! Because I had given up on the idea of conceiving naturally, I stopped tracking my cycle and stopped timing bding to ov time, and so had no idea if af was due, overdue or not even close! So on Tuesday, after I got a faint BFP, i went to get a hcg blood test. I got the results yesterday and they were only 18. Dr was concerned they were so low. I then managed to find out when AF last began and figured out it was the 12th of November. I knew I got it on a 36 degree day at school, so I checked the weather site and it noted that the only 36 degree day in Nov was the 12th....good detective work I reckon ;) So anyway, that meant I was only on cd21 when I had the bloods done, so they should be very low. I am going back tomorrow for another blood test and I am hoping they have gone up :pray: So I will keep you all posted on that one. I dont have a great feeling about it, I have a feeling that this will be my 4th chemical pg'cy in 18 months...not a great feeling, but I know my body just cannot sustain a pg'cy on its own anymore, I need serious support I think. I should also get the results of my recurrent m/c tests on the same day as the hcg results.

So that is a not so quick update on me, I will be back for more persies and an update on my situation tomorrow.

Issy

ISSY - I have wondered what has been happening with you. That is such promising news :dance: Sooooooo hope this is the beginning of a swelly belly for you :crossfingers:
Good luck with your next blood test :)

:stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:

Hi ladies - big :grouphug: for everyone!!!

Mannie & Toccara - I just don't know what to say that will help at all - just wish so much that this wasn't happening for you both :hug: :hug:

KL - big hugs to you for your EDD - keep giving belly rubs to chyan!

mumstheword - we all understand what you are going thru - even if some of us are now pregnant - those memories don't vanish I'm afraid. pls know we are all here for you.

mel - nothing sounds awful - it is just what you feel and who says it is wrong to feel that. pls take care of urself sweet.

hannah - oh honey - I'm so sorry :hug:

fifi - great to hear that things are progressing well for you - esp when it so hard to stop worrying.....

jenushka - u r going so well - big hug to you for your positivity and beautiful bub.

smi - so hard to stay up-beat all the time isn't it? c'mon lunar bday buddy, we'll get there for ya....

indy - hun you have all my prayers for a sticky sticky bub hun :hug:

tempus - hey hun - u certainly do worry about everything, I am still worrying about my bub, it gets a little bit easier as the pg progresses but i certainly don;t think, even at this stage, that I'm in the clear yet. I have to repeat Angel Babies' words here - one day at a time....

AJC - big hugs to you hun - just cos it's so great to see you and all your wonderful support in here too....

Issy - so great to see you hun!!!!!!! wow - let's hope that those BFPs are the 1st sign of more positivity - stay strong sweet

Jen (mother hen), WTH, buliej, megsmum, maddysmum, and those I know I have missed - hello and big hugs to you all!!!!!!!

Hey girls.... this is going to be super short, and I'm so, so sorry for being so slack lately with persies. Seems I've come down with walking Pneumonia... so at least I have a little excuse! Thinking of all of you... just wanted to give Toccara and Mannie a big :grouphug: So sorry for what you girls keep going thru! Sick or not, posting or not, I'm thinking and praying for you girls all the time!!



Krystie--So sorry I didn't realize about your EDD! :hug: Your little star is forever shining brightly over us all! *kiss*



Indy-- :hooray: Congrats on your BFP!! Wishing you a healthy, happy 9 months!!



mumstheword--Welcome.... sending a little :pink-babydust: your way!!



mollycat-- :hug: You won't be a stranger, right?? It's hard enough around here without Angel... can't even begin to imagine you BOTH being gone! *hugs* Thanks for the quick chat the other night! *kiss*



Mel--Good luck with your BT results! Sorry things have been so screwy for you this month! *hugs*



Hannah--So sorry to hear that d@mn witch showed! Don't feel stupid for having hope, hon! We all feel that same hope every month--and it's bad enough to have her show up, but to show up late and get your hopes up... I know how depressing it is! Hope you feel better soon, and wish you lots of luck with this next cycle. *hugs*



fifi--Saw your great scan pics! They're awesome! So happy for you that things are going so well! *kiss*



jenushka--Congrats on your great scan! I can only imagine what a relief it is for you to see your little bub moving all around! Did you get some new pics? :bellyrubs: for you and lots of luck with your next scan! *hugs*



smi--Grrr! Sorry, hon.... *hugs*



tempus--Completely understandable that you would feel anxious *hugs* Saying lots of prayers and sending massive stickyvibes your way!!



AJC & plc-- You're both always so supportive! I'm so grateful for you both--you always have just the right things to say to give us hope and make us all feel comforted! Love ya both! plc, I haven't forgotten about your package--will get it out hopefully within a week, hopefully I'll feel better soon! *kiss*



issy--Aww, it makes me so happy to see your post! Saying lots of prayers for some higher numbers after tomorrow's test! :stickyvibesgirl:



WTH--My :crossfingers: for your New Year blessing! *hugs*



Hi's and hugs to Megsmum, buliej, Easha, Ruthie, MO3B, and all the other lovely ladies that I know I've missed! Always thinking of you all!



Ok, I guess I lied.... not so super short, eh? lol.... Ok, that's it from me for now. *hugs* for everyone!!

Hi ladies,

So sorry I haven't been able to get on sooner. You wouldn't believe it well we got back from our holidays finally found time to get the computer fixed so it was gone for a few days that afternoon we get the computer back we set it up and I started to cook dinner watchig big storm clouds heading our way anyway I start dishing up dinner and the storm hits with everything it can wind, lightening, hail and really heavy rain. So anyway I hear whats sounds like a waterfall coming from the computer room so I walk in and you wouldn't believe it there was water pouring down from the light in the ceiling right on top of the computer. So the computer was flooded.

We quickly tried to move the computer but I thought it was to late. DH said put it out in the sun tomorrow and let it dry out before we try and put it back on. Well we put it back on and guess what the thing still works so thats the reason I have been gone for so long.

Now for my update I had a u/s today (7 weeks) and I saw my little buttons heart beat it was 143 the lady said that was really good. She said anything over 120 is good. She said it had implanted in the right spot and everything looked good so far. So fingers crossed.

I have alot of catching up to do so I will try and read back as far as I can and come back on with some personals

oh jen - so sorry ur sick poor love!!!! pls look after urself.....
tam - GREAT news about ur wee bub and that hb - so wonderful to hear :hug:

Jen - Sorry to hear you are sick, you must be run down from being so busy. Hope you feel better soon. :) Where has Angel gone by the way? She hasn't been on the thread for so long? I hope everything is going well for her.

Hannah - I am so sorry. To have AF show up at all is devastating but to be 3 days late is just cruel! :hug: Looks like 2009 will be the year for us :D

Tam83 - Congrats on your scan :stickyvibesgirl:

plc - thanks for your kinds words :)

Issy - We haven't 'met' - hi!

Tempus - thanks heaps for the good luck! I completely understand your worry, unfortunately I think everyone on this thread will feel the same. I feel so sad for all of us that we will never experience the 'innocence' of pregnancy again.

smi - sorry to hear AF is about to show up. :hug:

jenushka - woo hoo on your scan!

Mannie & Toccara - Hope you are both doing ok :hug:

Hi to maddysmum, babymiracles, indy, kristielove, megsmum, AJC, WTH, possums and anyone else I have missed. I might not write your name but I think of you all. :)

AFM - just called the specialist and I was so nervous! Spoke to the nurse who said my result for ovulation was positive! I am really happy but at the same time I am thinking what's the problem then??? I had my first BT done on CD20 and my prog level was 2 which is really low (they say about levels 4 or 5 to say you have o but they like to see levels above 14). Well, I had this BT done on CD29 and my levels are at 37! She said it is very high and is very positive. I asked if there was anyway the BT would've picked up if I was pg and it wouldn't have but implantation does cause the prog levels to rise which is a good sign so it is always possible. I won't ever know if they have risen from o day though. It's too early to test at the moment but I am having some pg symptoms. I have really, really sore bbs especially around the sides and they are almost throbbing and tingling at times. I have had a bit of cramping and heartburn. This is all normal leading up to my AF but that isn't due for another week and although my bbs get a bit sore they are never this sore. It could just be all in my head though, it would probably be too early to get any symptoms anyway. I know I just have to be patient but because this month is a longer cycle I feel like I have been in the TWW forever.......and I have another week to wait if AF doesn't show up first!

The dilemma I have is that I have to go out for a work dinner tonight and I am not sure whether to have wine with dinner? I will be driving so I would only have one maybe two glasses. Not drinking doesn't worry me but I don't want to raise suspicion among my work mates! We went to a bar after our meeting today and I had an OJ and a girl asked me if I was pregnant. Thank goodness she said it quietly ad not in front of everyone!

It's so hard to try and double guess my symptoms as I know I had cramping and really sore bbs when I was pg but because it was over a year ago and don't really remember exactly how it felt. Sad I know.

Better go and get ready for dinner!

HannahD: I'm so sorry. Sending cyberhug. I'm at the point that I say "I'm pregnant", and not "I'm going to have a baby"...

issy02: congratulations a million times!!! I'll keep you in my prayers...

Tam83: congrats on your U/S...keeping fingers crossed

Mel1979: keeping fingers extra crossed LOL--co workers can be such a pain in the rear...

fifi - Woo hoo! for good news at your 20 scan. Thanks for sharing the pictures of your perfect bub.

jenushka - It must have been incredible to hear that little heart beating away. Glad everything is going well.

smi - Hey, how's it going? Sending you some anti-AF vibes anyway. (It ain't over 'til she shows).

toccara & mannnie - Thinking of you both. :hug: :hug:

tempus - I'm sending you lots of zen vibes since jenushka was kind enough to leave me in charge of them. I know its hard to relax. If only we could just stop thinking for a while, I'm sure it would be much easier. :stickyvibesboy:

issy - :crossfingers: that this is the one you get to keep. :stickyvibesgirl:

plc - Wow! Not long now.

jen - Sorry you're not feeling well. You've been so busy lately, I guess its finally caught up with you, huh? Take care of yourself and I hope you feel better soon.

tam - Great to hear that you and bub are both doing so well.

Mel - I have everything crossed for a wonderful Christmas present for you. :noaf: I know what you mean about second guessing every symptom. If only I could stop thinking completely during TWW, I know I'd find it much easier.

:grouphug: Hi to buliej, indy, ajc, mollycat, megsmum, mo3b, krystie, ruthie, wth, mumstheword, mo3b and anyone I have missed.

AFM - I've gotten over myself today and am getting on with things today. Just as well I had already planned a day of shopping with mum tomorrow. I could do with some retail therapy.

Hi Everyone......

Just wanted to pop in and say :hello:


Just a couple of persies


Jen - Hope you're feeling better. Big :hug:

Smi - you should be ashamed of yourself, fancy forgetting to talk to me (of all people). No seriously, that's ok. When you can, hope everything is going good for you.

PLC - Not long to go now.....

AJC - Thanks for the message

I think it's time to spread some :pink-babydust::bluedust::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesbo y: around. Make sure you all catch them, especially Tam, Indy, Issy and TM.

I'd love to give Tocarra and Mannie great big hugs, wish I could be there in person for both of you.

I'm sorry that I just can't do persies for each and every one of you, there is so much going on in here, it's hard to keep up.

AFM - Thank you to each and every one of you for your support. I somehow feel so much at peace with my decision, more relaxed then I have been in a long time. I seriously would love to join up with you all in the pg thread.

Hi Ladies,

So sorry this is just a quick 'me' post, but I had my bloods done this morning and they have gone up 11 times higher in less than 72 hours which is good so far, from 18 on tuesday afternoon to 198 on friday morning. I am officially pregnant....but still not out of the woods yet. Dr is happy that they have more than doubled, but have to go back next friday for more tests. We are :pray: this is it....

Issy

Issy - that is good news...

I hope the good news continues

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to give Mannie and Toccara big :hug: Girls I am so very very sorry for your losses :( I hope you both can get some answers from your doctors - leave no stone unturned! Massive :hug: for you both.

Issy - Great to see you back and congrats on the BFP! Those results sound excellent!

Sorry for going so quiet this week, I have just been stressing in a big way about this pregnancy and as some of you may (or may not) have noticed when I am worried I just can't bring myself to post about it :( But not doing too bad today, will fill you in on this week sometime soon when I have a chance to do some persies.

:hug: and :bluedust: to everyone....have a lovely weekend.

megsmum - thankyou for the congrats...I must have missed your BFP announcement, Im so sorry....Congratulations hun, that is wonderful news :dance: I completely understand the stress and not being able to post anything when you feel like that, I feel the same way alot of the time. Try to relax hun....I know easier said than done right?

Issy

Tam - have been thinking about you. Am so happy to hear that everything is going nicely so far. Am sure everything will be fine. Big Hugs.

Issy - Wow - so lovely to hear from you again, and even better to hear you have a BFP!!! Congratulations!!! Sounds really positive, wishing you a very happy & healthy 9 months.

megsmum - can understand you being cautious. I felt the same way, I was even scared to tell our family & friends at 16 weeks incase something happened. Big Hugs, you'll get there.

Mel1979 - My prog levels the month I fell pg with this bub were terrible! I O'd on cd19 (knew as I was temping) and because I took the bt on cd21 it just didn't have time to rise enough. I was so discouraged and my BFP that month was very unexpected. Good luck.

Big Hugs to everyone else.

Little 'me' update - still on 'rest', had some more brown discharge yesterday but is gone now. Saw Ob yesterday afternoon and he did another scan, bub still very happy in-utero (sp?) and growing nicely. I am not good at sitting still but at least there are some nice things on tv at the moment. The Ellen show is good cause she's giving away heaps of presents to people - nice to see such generosity & happiness when there seems to be so much doom & gloom about the economy etc on the news.

I have a strong feeling that this Bub will arrive within the first two weeks of Jan, call it mothers intuition we'll have to wait & see if I'm right.

Issy - fantastic news.....let me know how your recurrent m/c tests went too, it would be interesting to now especially for us who have suffered recurrent miscarriages.

Tam - YAY!!!! 7 weeks fantastic!!!! I'm sooo happy for you!!!

Indy - hope your travelling along well, thinking of you and your bub too...

Jenushka and fifclaire - I cannot wait for that day, to be able to see my bub on the screens, I'm so envious but soooo sooo happy for you after all you've been through.

Jen - always providing comfort and always there to give us a hug and tell us everything will be allright..thankyou so much

Tempus - thankyou to you too, I'm glad I have a very supportive DH, he's taking me out for fish and chips and a bottle of wine and we are going to sit on the beach and just sit and enjoy eachothers company. Hope your feeling good and not too sick and sore...but would give anything to have those symptoms back now :(

goodluck Mel I've got my fingers crossed for you and you get a BFP soon...the TWW is a pain isn't it, you just wish away the days!

Mollycat - Am feeling a bit like you too, I've put away my thermometer and my charts and suspended my fertility friend membership just need some me time at the moment so know how you feel.

Toccara luv know I'm reaching out to you and hugging you really hard, and wishing things could be different for both of us...at least you have one positive over me, you have time, so please don't beat yourself up too much and know that you will find an answer and you will have your bub. Unfortuantley I probably only have a maximum of 5 years to keep trying before I'm just too old. I won't give up though and I will get back to ttcing in the new year, only because of the biological clock, if we didn't have this damn clock ticking in our heads I'd wait a year or 6 months before trying again but I just don't have that luxury.

I have my blood test forms and will be going to get my bloods done next week. My GP called head of obstetrics at the hospital who told her what tests I should get done for recurrent m/c. She also wants my DH to have blood test on parental Karyotype (chromosomal test) his boys don't really need to get tested because we know they can swim and reach the egg and penetrate it we just don't know what DNA its got in there. So thats where the blood test comes into it.
Anyway the other tests are for those who are interested: anti dna abs, lupus anticoagulant, anticardiolpin ab; glucose tolerance test (75g) and thyroid function tests to begin with.

Will let you know how I go...

I feel like there is a big black cloud over me and I just can't seem to get out of this depressive hole, I feel so sad and useless and just down you know? Its such an overwhelming feeling. Glad DH is taking me out to the beach for dinner I so need it, I'm hoping it brightens my day a bit. :(

Hi to all the other ladies I've misssed and who have passed on their support, I'm so glad we have this forum to vent and talk to eachother about these issues which no body else understands unless they've gone through it themselves.

Have a great weekend...xxx

Mannie - I believe you have enough time. I've read on these boards about the test re: recurring miscarriage - my impression is once they ID the issue, most of them are fairly easily addressable. Please don't despair!