Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss November 08

buliej - I'm just trying to decipher his shocking handwriting LOL but it looks like 75mg daily to me, and he's given me 3 repeats. And yep he did say that I would have to go to the local compounding chemist. Interesting about the ladies falling pg naturally in the 3 month wait....BTW he was happy for me to start another IVF cycle in late Dec/early Jan when the clinic reopened after Xmas - he didn't tell me that I needed to wait out the 3 months before doing IVF again.

Oh and I just reread my last post and thought I should add too it ;) I don't think older ladies with unexplained infertility should be refused Clomid and consigned to the scrap heap either, I think that FSH injections and possibly moving on to IVF if they don't work should be the go for us. That's because the FSH doesn't have the anti-oestrogenic effects that Clomid has, and IMHO (non expert) they have more chance of success than Clomid does.

HTH buliej and good luck with the FS on Wednesday :goodluck:

I hope my FS is as open as yours to ideas! Thanks for the info. The reason for the 3 month wait might be US insurance driven - since the cost of IVF is so expensive there, they might advise waiting 3 months to get the most out of the IVF cycle because the DHEA takes a while to get into full gear. It didn't give a medical reason for waiting 3 months.

My FS moved me right to IVF after TTC for 6 months and having no success - she said this would give us the best chance. One FS's opinion, but it meshed with my sense so I was happy to go with it. I was just hoping that there would be something we could do to give us a boost during the holiday period during which we will TTC on our own. But as long as we have a plan for Jan, I'll be happy - I like a plan!

Hello. Just popping in to let you know my first IVF (with PGD) transfer came up a BFN. Not feeling too happy about it all, but have an appointment with FS tomorrow to get the next cycle into full swing at the beginning of 2009. Still not sure whether to try naturally this month, given I have a sorry MC history and an estrogen issue (it drops at around Day8/9 then pops back up again :o and may affect egg quality). Getting a cut and colour on Wednesday and gonna book in for a few accupuncture sessions...
Sorry - no persies. Just keeping my head above water today IYKWIM.

WTH xx

:( I'm praying that the next transfer is the one for you WTH...big hugs

Megsmum - I've only been to the FS once and he ordered all these BT to check if I o and if I have any ovarian resistance as well as one for lupus. Going back on the 11/12 which is now supposedly when AF is due according to FF. The only way I have been tracking my cycles is through my temps on FF which obviously is not as accurate as a BT! Completely confused this month as if I did o on day 22 then I am going to have about a 38 day cycle which I have never had. If I did o on CD13 then AF is due tomorrow. Time will tell I guess. Thanks for the advice - I am making a list of questions to ask the FS and that will be one of them! :) Best of luck with your BT results.

Buliej - Sorry, I hope I didn't seem like I was recommending clomid to you. I am so new to all of this so I only know what I have read and it seemed like it may be a good option for me if the FS suggests it (I have to know whether I definitely o or not first and that is proving difficult!). I hope you find something that works for you. :)

WTH - :hug:

Tempus - I am new to this thread so I don't think we have 'met' but big Congratulations.

Jen - Sorry to disappoint but we have an artificial tree, trying to do our bit for the environment :) We used to have real ones when I was a kid though!

Hannah - How are you holding up? :bluedust::pink-babydust:

I hope all these :bfp: are starting a trend!

Mel- I'm happy to hear all ideas - I too am just learning about all this stuff - I'd rather hear about something and realize it's not for me than not know about something only to learn out months later that it could have helped. I think bellybelly is great for sharing info that we can then go back to our FS with.

Mel, jen and megsmum - Thanks. I know I tested early, but at least now I can wait to see it AF shows. Friday and Saturday night, I actually dreamt I got a BFP. I'm driving myself nuts over thinking every little symptom when I'm awake and I guess starting in my sleep was just too much. If nothing else, I just proved to myself that it was too early to test. I'm hoping I'm just one of those women on whom those early HPTs give false negatives. Will see if AF arrives tomorrow.

jen - :pray: that this month is your month.

megsmum - Goodluck with the BT results. :stickyvibesgirl:

buliej - :hello:

tempus - We haven't met yet. Congratulations on your BFP!!!:dance: Wishing you a H&H 9 months.

possums - Of course you're not alone hun. :hug:

Lezya - Glad everything is going well.

WTH - Sorry about the BFN. :hug: Praying that it will happen for you next cycle.

:bluedust: :pink-babydust:

Good Monday Morning Gurlies!

The Thanksgiving holiday was just wonderful!

I don't have much time for perssies BUT I want you to know I am sitting here grinning from ear to ear at all the :bfp:

:bluedust::pink-babydust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

:noaf:

Hiya ladies,

Just to let you know I have my 20 week scan tomorrow, am looking forward to and i'm not if that makes sense. :pray: evrything will be ok.

Bub is very active and have been having lots of kicks, it's the most amazing feeling in the world!

:grouphug:

Where there's hope--sending cyberhug. Is there something they can do for that estrogen dip?
There are times I wonder how anybody gets born, with all the little traps and pitfalls from conception to birth...

fificlaire--good luck with your scan, I'll be keeping you in my prayers

Just started bleeding girls im at the ER .... sad part is I cant even cry because i dont have anymore tears left and because I expected it to happen even tho i was hoping and praying it didnt DH is a lil more upset right now then i am Im trying to calm him down but he wont hear it.... love you all and im giving all my stickyvibes i had to you girls ...

Oh Toccara - I'm so,so sorry that you are going through this again - I hope that you don't lose the baby...I feel so badly for you having to go to the hospital and go through this again. If things don't go well (and I'm praying that they do), you should ask for a full range of tests ... if you haven't already had ... I've done so much reading since my m/c and there are a whole host of reasons women m/c, many of which can be addressed if they are known about - and many can be known about if they are tested for.

Oh Toccara I’m shedding a tear for you darling girl. It’s just not FAIR!!!! Why can so may other women especially around us fall pregnant first go, so easily…. carry to term no problems and we all have to suffer around them!!!!

I’m praying I don’t m/c this week either. I had some brown spotting this morning and of course in my case and with my history I am thinking the worst. Big hugs to you and your DH all the way from Oz xxx

Toccara--No, no, no! Oh, hon... I'm saying major :pray: for you right now! :comfort: :hug: :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:




Mannie--Some :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: for you, too! You're in my thoughts and :pray:



Sorry, girls, will have to finish persies later. Just read thru the posts and had to at least get these two done. Thinking of you all!

Tocarra honey, I'll be keeping you in my thoughts today. :hug: I hope it's just old implantation blood or something and that bubs is doing fine. Take care and good luck!

Manny - yes, sticky vibes to you too!!!!

Toccara- oh no I am so so sorry you are having to go through this...I pray everything turns out OK...and maybe its harmless bleeding and the baby is ok

Oh no Toccara - it is just not fair honey. I am praying for you and hoping everything is actually okay. You will be in my thoughts today :comfort:

Mannie - thinking of you too and praying all is okay this time around :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Toccara - I'm so sorry you have to go through this again. :pray: that everything will be fine this time. My thoughts are with you and your DH today. :hug: :stickyvibesboy:

Mannie - I'm thinking of you too. :stickyvibesgirl: :hug:

Thankyou for all your kind thoughts and prayers not sure whats going on have been to acupuncture and she gave me antimiscarriage therapy, let see if it works, I don't feel good about it, have had a headache all morning and just now have had some pinkish spotting, couldn't go back to work, cried all the way home in the car.....I guess some things are just not meant to be. :(

off to have a lie down now ....thankyou again don't know what I'd do without you ladies. xxx

Mannie and Toccara - My thoughts and prayers are with you both. Hoping for both of you, it's just your bub's giving you a hard time and you'll come through this ok. :hug:

Mannie, my thoughts and prayers are with you hun. Times like this can be very lonely and devastating. I know it is a LOT easier said than done BUT... try to stay positive and stress free. Thats good that you didn't go back to work, just relax and potter around at home my sweet. If I knew how to attach those little cuddle icons I would give you one. Seen as though I don't I am sending you a big huggle xoxo

Mannie...big hug...I so hope everything settles down and is ok...it's so hard having uncertainty and worrying

Maddysmum - for the smilies - when you reply to threads on the right hand side of the page is a box with different smilies you click on the one you want or click on "more" which will give you lots of different choices. There's a limit to how many you can use in each post. Hope that helps

Thanks for the tip Mollycat - I am very knew at all of this (and and so glad I stumbled accross such a wonderful group of ladies). I have never been one to go to chat pages etc so feel a bit out of touch with all the abbreviations etc lol - I'll get there! Thanks again hun xoxo

Toccara & Mannie - :pray: everything will be ok and your bubs are sticky ones.

I know nothing I say will take away the anxiety you must be feeling but a friend of mine had 2 m/c and she was on her third pregnancy when she had spotting at the exact same time as the 2 m/c but it was all ok and she went to full term and now has a beautiful baby boy.

Thinking of you both xx :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

thanks Mel, did another pg test just in case and for some peace of mind and it did come out positive however I know HCG can stay in your blood after a m/c has occurred, but it did reassure me somewhat. And I know that if I do lose this one too, I'll take some time off and then in the new year get all the right tests done with my OB and also test out my DH, just to make sure we are A OK to keep trying on our own. I'm hoping we don't need IVF, its not conception that seems to be the issue but staying pregnant so it must be chromosomal and our ages its more than likely. Trying to stay positive and am hoping its just implantation bleeding.

I'm thinking of you too Toccara big time!!! lots and lots of hugs out to you lovely girl we'll get through this. xxx

Mannie - really hope it all works out for you. Try and stay positive as hard as that may be. :hug:

Megsmum - How are you feeling?

Hannah - Did you POAS yet? Have :crossfingers: for you!

Maddysmum - Don't worry, I am new to this forum thing as well. I have never been on one before. DH told me the other day though that I have turned into a true forum member as I was speaking in the lingo (DH works in IT!)

Fificlaire - Hope your scan went well. :)

AFM - Well FF changed on me again this morning and it now reckons I o on CD23 - I give up. :wall: Going for another BT tomorrow to see if I did ovulate on CD22 or 23. Got my bill for the last blood test and I now know the FS tested for Rubella, chromosome test and a couple of other things I am not sure of and they came back all ok. That's something to be pleased about.

Anyway I hope everyone is well and my thoughts are with Mannie and Toccara. Wishing you both the best. :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Mannie and toccara - just want to wrap you up in cotton wool and protect you from all this :hug: you have all my prayers and sticky vibes

everyone else - big big hugs!!!!

Mannie & Toccara you are both in my :pray: I hope everything is ok for you both. Sending you lots and lots of :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:

Lots of Hugs to you both.

Quick reply for mannie & Toccara...:grouphug: and lots of :pray: for you both!

:bluedust::pink-babydust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

:noaf:

Leyza--What a beautiful tribute to your angel twins! I can imagine how emotional and difficult that day was for you! :hug:



megsmum--Continuing to send lots of :stickyvibesgirl: Big *hugs* cycle bud--I'm still so truly happy for you!!



tempus--Glad to hear your BT went well. :goodluck: with your scan on Friday!!



buliej--Good luck with your FS today!! *hugs*



WTH--Aww, hon.... sorry about your BFN. Hope your FS appt. went well yesterday. Enjoy your cut/color--you deserve to pamper yourself!! :hug:



Mel--Isn't it so frustrating when FF changes your dates??? It always makes me want to :computer: *hugs*



Hannah--:noaf:



smi--Hey girl! Glad to hear you enjoyed your Thanksgiving! Did you enjoy any of the sales on Black Friday? I stayed as FAR away as I could from the stores on that day--it's crazy, people getting trampled to death when they go shopping!



fifi--Hope your scan went well!! *hugs* and bellyrubs for you!!



Krystie--I haven't forgotten to send you my address!! Sorry, just been really busy, but I promise... today!! *hugs* and :bellyrubs:



Mannie--Saying lots of prayers for you and your little one.... sticky, baby, stick!! :stickyvibesgirl:



Maddysmum--I have a Mac, so my smilies don't show up on the right when I respond to the posts...unless I'm actually editing a post, then they show up on the right. I had to find mine up in the user profile under "edit signature". It's really just as simple as adding the mood you want in between some :'s For example (and this isn't an actual smilie, so it won't show up... you'll just see how to do it) :hugs: :kisses: etc.... hope that helps! I see you got your signature all figured out--looks cute! *hugs*



mollycat & plc--Hope to see you both in chat on Friday!! Love ya both! *kiss*

My HCG was 35.1 and no baby was seen on scan my DH is really upset and Im not sure if my marrige is going to it make thur this because he saying it his fault and i would be happier with someone else he said if i was with someaone else i would have three kids right now ... i really dont understand why i keep losing babies when they dont see anything wrong with me ... all have right now is you girls becuase nobody else understands what its like to keep going thur this ...

Oh, Toccara!!! :crying: It's just SO UNFAIR!!! I'm so very sorry, honey, that you keep having to go thru this torture!! :comfort: :hug: I'm :pray: that you and DH are able to work thru this--I'm sure you will--you need each other right now!! Placing blame isn't going to make things better or take away the pain.... you guys have to support each other and love each other thru this!! My thoughts and prayers are with you both! :hug: :hug:

oh Toccara hun - :crying: I'm really sorry. You and ur DH - as long as there is love then you can get to working on whatever is potentially lacking with the communication and commitment. United you 2 are going to be a force that can get thru anything. I think the key is to get answers and then there will be physical proof of what the prob is and not just a lot of self-blame that's born of an emotionally stressful time with a whole lot of frustration trimming it. To you and your DH - big tight hugs!!

Toccara - I'm so so sorry.:comfort: I'm saying lots of prayers that you and DH can get through this together. As long as you have love, you can get through this. Take some time to grieve together. I hope you get some answers soon.

Mannie - Thinking of you and sending you lots of :stickyvibesboy:

fifi - I hope your scan went well. :bellyrubs:

buliej - Hope all goes well with the FS today.

WTH - Enjoy your 'you' day today. You deserve it! :hug:

megsmum - :goodluck: with the BT results.

Mel - Glad the results came back ok. At least some things have been ruled out already. I did POAS (see below).

jen - Thanks for the anti-af vibes. So far so good. How are you?

:hello: mollycat, maddysmum, krystie, smi, tempus, possums, babymiracles, plc, lezya and all those I've missed.

AFM - Well I tested again yesterday (AF was due Monday) and got another BFN. Still no sign of AF though. Will test again with another brand in a day or so. I've been so crazy through the TWW and now I feel so calm (must be those zen vibes you had left over jenushka ;) ). Will keep you girls posted.

A quick msg for Toccarra...
Huge hugs to you.. Please please dont think any of this is your fault/ anyone elses... it is just horrid and unfair. I wish I could give you a real hug

Rach
x

Toccara - I am so sorry to hear this. I just want to reiterate the wise words of Jen, place blaming isn't going to make things better for either of you. Big Hugs - we're all here for you. Special :pray: for you & your DH.

toccara50: I'm so sorry to "meet" you under these circumstances, but I'm keeping you and your husband in my prayers and sending cyberhug. M/C is a terribly trying thing for a marriage. Maybe he's just venting--we all say things we don't really mean when we're upset. Just keep the lines of communication open. Again, I'm so sorry.

Mannie2309: have you called your doc about the bleeding? Keeping you in my prayers, too.

Mel1979: hopefully they can figure out when you ovulated. so frustrating

HannaD: sorry about the bfn. sending cyberhug

tocarra- big hug and so sorry you have to go through this...life is not fair! And I hope you and your DH can communicate and nurture each other through this...things will settle down in time I hope