oh Mannie - you must be beside yourself. I will be praying for you this weekend :pray: Take care of yourself and know you are in my thoughts. :comfort:
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oh Mannie - you must be beside yourself. I will be praying for you this weekend :pray: Take care of yourself and know you are in my thoughts. :comfort:
Mannie: Statistics are just statistics. Don't worry about hormone levels. Just concentrate on growing that little one nice and strong. Don't tell yourself it's over before you have any confirmation. Stay strong hon! Sending massive sticky vibes and the hugest :hug: your way darlin!
Mannie: Stay strong hon. I now how you must be feeling. just try and stay positive. sending lots of :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:
:pray: and thinking of you xx
Mannie - thinking of you, :hug: hold on little one and grow strong :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:
Mannie - sending lots of positive vibes your way!!! Keep holding on little one. :pray:
** BIG HUGS **
Mannie: :hug:Stay strong hun... whatever happens (always praying for the best) We are all here for you.
I am praying for you. I don't want to be the only one telling you to take courage on whatever news you get...
based on my experiences.. unfortunately.. there was nothing I could have done to save my babies. :redface: once a m/c starts there is no stopping to it. I'm sorry I might be the only one telling you this.. but please stay strong.
I am praying for you and your bubba... I am here for you.:pray:
please keep us posted on how you do. ♥
As for me.. looks like AF is FINALLY here!! :clap: Last night I wiped and still that "colored" CM.. today in the AM def spotting.. pink/red but not full throttle.. so am waiting for that "full throttle"..please send AF vibes my way.
I am hoping it lasts a few days and not 3 months like last year around this time.
ssooooo that means that not this cycle..but the one the follows this one I might TTC again with the specialist.
I was told to wait two cycles before trying again and am happy I'm not preggo now.
Today is FINALLY Friday..so just wanted to send you all "Happy Friday and weekend" thoughts.!!:dance:
Mannie Green is the color of hope.... This is for you dear.
:goodluck::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
Enjoy your weekend Gurlies!
I have to say I really hate that my breasts are now extremely sore right after ovulation...that used to be my sure fire you're pregnant symptom...not anymore! Seems like everything that used to be no doubt about it signs are now just signs that yes you ovulated...I'm bummed.
My favorite weather personnel announced this morning that she is expecting twins May 7th...and one of the ladies I work with just told me her DIL (who has cerebral palsy) is expecting May 16th...I truly am happy for them I just wish I had some happy news to share...ANYWAY...someday God Willing...
Angel...we miss you terribly!
All my gurlies...*wavin*
mannie...:pray:
:noaf:
:pink-babydust::bluedust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
Oh Mannie, no! Please tell us that your ticker and FF chart are wrong! I've been checking the thread to see how you are, and I was hoping for some wonderful news. I am so sorry honey :(
I know it's hard to stay strong during a time like this, but please know that we are all here for you. My thoughts are with you :hug:
Mannie - i am so sorry (words you don't want to hear I know). There really are no words to describe how sorry I am - wish I could give you a hug sweet. Remember we are here for you - when ur ready to talk. :comfort:
Mannie - just want to let you know i am thinking of you :hug:
mannie...so sorry :hug:
Mannie honey I am so so sorry. When you are ready we are here.
I just POAS and it was a BFN. I know I am not supposed to until Tuesday but am pretty sure we are out. I am going to take a break until next year.
Love to you all
Adele xx
so sorry Mannie...sending you a hug, I know how awful it can feel
Mannie :grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: :grouphug:
Mannie - Words escape me....so :hug: Take care of yourself.
Sending you love dear Mannie - I am so sorry that your little one has grown wings - fly safely little one... :comfort:
Mannie: I don't know what to say, hon, except I am so so sorry. :hug:
Mannie..
Please excuse me ... I'm crying as I write this.....
My heart goes out to you.:hug: I know that feeling all too well. :redface: Listen dear... I know this is tough but I think you should wait a cycle or two to try again.. see The doctors know what they are saying when they say: "Wait a cycle or two before trying again".. because these things do happen. I'm sorry you had to go through this again so soon after your other loss... I dreaded that and that's why I'm so happy AF showed up on me.
Maybe you and me can be TTC buddies in Jan 2009. That's when I think it would be "safe" to try with this doc.. try to find yourself a specialist.. a Perinatologist.. I'm sick of miscarrying and won't tolerate one more loss. Really... I won't tolerate it. So this time around I want to do things right.. and I will follow each and every doctor's orders .
I am praying for you to heal... it will take time but you will heal.
Please take care of yourself.. some of the things I might say are things you probably don't want to hear.. but coming from the exact shoes you are in.. I'm just sick of all this heartache and I hurt that you too had to go through this again.
May God give you peace and courage. ♥
We both will be blessed..along with all others here. Let's give 2008 a good bye and look forward to what 2009 can bring. Let's start fresh.. from zero.
Hopefully 2009 has a baby in hand for us! ♥
I wanted to share this with all of you.. because.. if you think of it that way.. it is a beautiful thought.
SPIRIT BABY
Colin, my twelve-year-old son, discovered me late one rainy afternoon sitting at the kitchen table, a damp Kleenex crumpled in my left hand, wiping my eyes as I tried to compose myself for his sake. It was the third week of January, two months after I'd miscarried a pregnancy, but I still found it impossible to get through a day without at least one meltdown into misery.
Stunned w hen the test came back positive, Rog and I had stared at each other with doubt and ambivalence. At forty-one, my professional life consumed me. I'd just achieved what some had predicted was an impossibility: I'd been granted delivery privileges at Alta Bates, and as a consequence, my midwifery practice burgeoned. Some months I delivered twelve babies, and no one ever knew if or when I'd be home. Rog, too, felt stretched to his limits, keeping his business afloat while picking up the slack for my frequent unscheduled absences. Colin and Jill approached their challenging adolescent years. How could we fit an infant into our lives? But when I lost the pregnancy and all hope for resolution dissolved with my tears, I fell in love with the baby that was not to be.
Colin asked, "Are you crying about the baby?" and when I nodded tearfully, he said, "Well, you just have to have another one, Mom, because it's a Spirit Baby, and you should be its mother."
I must have looked puzzled because he said, "Don't you know about Spirit Babies? How could I know about them if you don't? I mean, you're my mom!" But he could see my perplexity.
So my first child, this not-yet-teenaged boy, pulled a wooden chair to my side and draped his thin arm across my shoulders, saying, "Well, Mom, here's how it is. See, I was one myself, so that must be how I know. Anyway, every woman has a circle of babies that goes around and around above her head, and those are all the possible babies she could have in her whole life. Every month, one of those babies is first in line. If she gets pregnant, then that's the baby that's born. If she doesn't get pregnant, the baby goes back into the circle and keeps going around with all the others. If she gets pregnant but something bad happens before the baby's born?now listen, Mom, because here's the really cool part. It goes back into the circle, but it becomes a Spirit Baby, and all the other babies give it cuts. Each month, it's always first in line. Isn't that great?
"So you just have to get pregnant again, and you'll have the same Spirit Baby. If you don't, though, then the baby circle will just beam that little Spirit Baby over to some other woman's circle, and it'll be first in line for her. It keeps being first in line somewhere until it finally gets born.
"But it'd be a shame for you not to have it yourself, because I know how much you want it. So you just have to try again. Mom, remember that baby you lost before I was born?" I nodded wordlessly. "Well, that was me. Really. I've always known I was a Spirit Baby. I mean, I know what I'm talking about here, Mom."
In spite of Colin's certainty that our household, so often bordering on chaos, lacked only an infant to make things perfect, Rog and I demurred. But Colin didn't give up and even enlisted his sister's support. Driving with them in the car one evening, I looked at my son in the passenger seat beside me. He stared out the side window and tried to hide his tears, but I saw the flush on his face, the shaking of his shoulders, and the surreptitious swipe of hand across cheek.
Six months had passed since my miscarriage, and I had just finished yet another discussion in which I'd told my pleading son that having a third baby at my age was out of the question. I reached over the space between us and squeezed his fingers. "Colin, I don't understand this passion you have for a baby. Why do you want one so much?"
He tore his gaze from the distant hills and looked at me with swimming eyes and trembling lips. In a choking voice, he put all of his twelve-year-old passion into his reply.
"Oh, Mom! Oh. Just for the joy of it!"
Jill stretched forward from the back seat and placed a hand on each of our shoulders. "Yeah, Mom, just for the joy of it."
It was my turn to look out the side window and struggle with misty vision.
So, at a time when most women eye the empty nest at the end of their branch on the family tree with something approaching relief, I gave consideration to laying just one more egg. Several months of discussions peppered with doubt and disbelief followed. Although Rog and I made the final decision, there's no denying that a big part of our decision to have a third child began with the insistence of our adolescent children that we "needed a baby in the house." Rog and I took a deep breath, looked at each other across the blond heads of those two wishful children, swallowed ? and made a giant leap of faith.
I conceived my Spirit Baby a week later. Just for the joy of it.
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Ruthie - :crying: that is truly moving - thank you so much for sharing :hug:
A book that helped me a lot when TTC and recommended by a fellow BB-er is;
Spirit Babies: How to Communicate with the Child You're Meant to Have - Walter Makichen
Mannie: i'm so sorry for your loss. words just cannot describe.
We are all here for you when you are ready. stay strong xx
Ruthie: that was truely wonderful, i sat reading that with tears strolling down my face. i feel that is soo fitting to us all here.
massive :grouphug: to you all
xx
That was beautiful Ruthie! :hug:
Plc, Fifi & Flowerchild: :grouphug: Isn't that story just beautiful??? the first time I read that ( a friend sent it to me by e-mail on Sept 13th the day after my D&C) I just wept.
Gosh.. If we were all neighbors I bet we would all be in my living room right now sipping hot chocolate and sobbing together!! :ROFL:
Sometimes a good cry results in this soothing peace.:redface:
I love you ladies.
Oh... Plc:.. a Book that I'm reading and think it's just awesome is supernatural childbirth by Jackie Mize. OMg It's a MUST read for Angel baby mommies!!! ♥
Mannie : Stay strong momma.. WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU ♥ !!!!!!!
:hug:
Mannie - I am just so sorry to hear your very sad news. It simply just isn't fair. Please look after yourself - :hug:
Hi Girls,
Its just a fitting day to have gone to Mass today as its all souls day, so I prayed for my babies souls and those of all you lovely ladies who have also lost babies this year. Life is eternal and I know that I will meet my two babies when I too make it to heaven so I shed a tear or two at Mass today but am now stronger to fight the good fight ahead of me next year. Your right Ruthie, I'm going to give my body time to heal and get back into sync again and will give it til Jan 2009 to try again, because my spirit needs to heal and try and think of going through this whole process again.
I loved that Spirit baby story, and cryed reading it, thankyou, that little boy had a great take on where our angel babies are and I know that eventually they are all born to women somewhere in the world. Life is a gift and we just need to make the most of it and know that we are as women are blessed to be able to create a miracle so here's to Jan 2009!!!
Love you ladies thankyou for being here xxxx
Mannie - I am so sorry for your loss. Life can be so unfair. I'm glad to hear that going to Mass helped and you are feeling stronger but don't be afraid to grieve when you need to.
Praying for a 2009 baby for all of us.
Remember we are all here for you if you need to talk or vent. :comfort:
Talk care of yourself. :grouphug:
Ruthie - that story was so touching. It is 1 year today since our m/c so I read it with tears in my eyes and hope that one day soon we will have our 'spirit' baby.
Ruthie - that was a beautiful story, thank you so much for sharing it with us.
Mannie - :hug:
Jen - Sorry to have missed you, I really need to sort out this time difference thing.
Mel - :hug: for you. thinking of you on this special day. Mine is also coming up this month. :pray: for a 2009 baby for all of us in the thread.
Hey girls.... I know it's been a while since I posted.... just had to tell Mannie that I'm so sorry for your loss... :( It's so unfair, and I'm just so very sorry. :comfort: You're in my thoughts and :pray:
Will post more tomorrow.... sorry girls.... it IS O time, after all! Got a +OPK yesterday, and temp this am starting on it's way up. Should see a coverline in 2 days.
Just wanted you all to know that I'm thinking of you all! :grouphug:
Mannie, again, I'm so sorry! :hug:
Mannie: ( stretching out my arm to lock it with yours....) We will be TTC buddies in Jan!! Pinky promise!! we will both have our spirit babies. COUNT ON IT! ♥
Now heal hun.. do so both physically and emotionally cry when you need to.. I broke down today about my angel baby.. not even 15 min. ago with hubby...just stumbled upon an old pic of Erick (my son) when he was newborn and the tears started flowing on their own.. hubby heard me sniffing and he came to hug me.. I just sobbed. :redface:. Healing doesn't mean forgetting.. healing means accepting what it is and embracing what will come in the future. Our time will come ♥
My deepest sympathy. I am here for you! We all are. Glad you like the story.:hug:
Mollycat and Mel: :grouphug:
Jen: Catch that EGGIE!!!!:dance::fertilise::noaf::surprise::goodlu ck::crossfingers:
Hi,
Don't know if this is the right place to ask this question but here goes anyway, i'm starting to get really frustrated with my body!!
We're ttc after missed m/c in july. I've been using OPK's to seeif i'm ovulating. Last month I got a positive result day 16 (no joy though, AF arrived 16 days later :cry:). This month I have had negative results with the OPK every day. But just now I did one and it came up positive - this is on day 24??!!?? My cycles is normaly 32 days so I am thinking that this is a bit late in the game to be ovulating, as i'd be expecting a/f next monday??
Also have been monitoring other fertility signs (cervical position and cm) - sorry if TMI - but I have what i would assume is 'fertile' CM for at least 5 days now (including today) and also my cervix is so high I can't even seem to reach it (for about 4 days now) - apologies again if tmi!
ALso have had spotting this month and last month around day 14-16 (last month too around day22 as well) - I'm getting SOOOO angry with my body, feel like it is letting me down! (not a good way to feel about it, i know....)
Any clues as to what may be going on??? It's frsutrating not knowing when it's going to happen (the 'o' i mean)- I feel like I have to do it everyday to be in for a chance and unfortunately DH is just not up for it!!
Thanks ladies :D
Hi rach!
Don't stress too much hon (I know, easier said than done). Each cycle is different. Sometimes we don't o at all!! The cycle I conceived this little one I was told I hadn't o'd, so really take it with a grain of salt. Your body is probably still getting back into gear, and unfortunately it takes a different time for everyone. But patience (sigh) and perseverence will get you, and all of us, there!
Big :hug: and I TOTALLY understand the frustration!!
Omg Af has NOT kicked in full throttle. It's just this stupid spotting. Today more than yesterday..so please can you keep sending AF vibes my way??... UUGHHHH I just want to have a normal period!!!
Rach78: :welcome: I'm sorry about your loss. Tutmae is right.. sometimes it takes a few cycles for your body to kick back in gear.
Now I do have a question for you. Do you have PCOS?.. If so then even if you have all the symptoms of ovulation..it is very likely ovulation does not occur..even if you feel like you did. See many women can have their periods like clockwork and with or without the diagnosis.. it doesn't ensure proper ovulation. Many women Do ovulate.. but the egg it;self is not good quality..result in in early "flushing" or early miscarriage (many women don't even know they are miscarrying cuz it all happens so early and right away)
I did use OPKs with my Angel bubba ( I miscarried on Sept 11th this year) and for the looks of it.. I ovulated WAAAAYYYYY later on... my cycles range from 44 days to 150+
My first hint of a BFP was on cycle day 60 and I was around 3 weeks preggo..meaning I ovulated like on Cycle day 40ish ....CRAZY!! But I have Infertility I have PCOS.
That being said... women who have longer cycles ovulate later on.
I hope the OPKS do work for you. If not have you thought of seeing a specialist??..sometimes you don't have to have any diagnosis.. many doctors are giving many women w/o infertility Clomid to help with ovulation.
Good luck TTC girly. I hope to hear :bfp: news soon from you ♥
:bluedust::pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:
Mannie - I am really sorry about your test results. I know the stress they cause and doubt you got much sleep over the weekend. If you need to talk, feel free to PM me. Take care hon' - just hoping your numbers are a little low because of a late ovulation :comfort:
AFM - As you can see by my new sig I got a BFN for my OI (which was never mean't to happen anyways). The whole process had me really fooled because last week I had the strongest PG-like symptoms I've ever had before a BT. So now I understand how IVF girls get their hopes up so high each time. You really do feel PG! Then I had a massive hormonal crash Friday and was greeted by AF. Spent the weekend in Sydney having some wonderful escapism. It was just what I needed. Am now on Day 3 of my new short cycle on a higher dose so will be curious to see how it goes. Does not feel as exciting this time around. Just hoping we get some embryos to biopsy (and hopefully transfer) so we have a better idea of the quality of my little eggies.
Hi everyone, just here reading and lurking still... sending hugs and hope to you all
and to the ladies who have tears when they don't expect them...me too...yesterday I was driving home from mum's place and bang...out of the blue, I think of our last ultrasound scan and the hopes and happiness I had had before it...and next thing I am sobbing again... I guess it's healing for us
Hi everyone,
Sorry for the long post but I need some help!
Just a question if anyone can help? I am currently in the TWW *sigh* and I am due to test on Friday (if AF doesn't show up before then). I am charting my BBT on FF (this is my 3rd cycle charting). Yesterday I had a huge temperature dip (went from 36.89 to 36.10) which was 10 DPO. Today I went back up to 36.91. I was reading on FF that you can have an implantation dip between days 5-12 which statistically usually results in pregnancy (but of course not all the time). This have never happened to me in the 3 cycles I have been charting (not long I know) I usually always stay above the coverline in my lutual phase.
I am trying not to get my hopes up and I know everyone is different so what happens for one person may not be the same for me but does anyone have any feedback?
I have just started getting headaches, sore bb's, going to the toilet heaps and I have had a little dizziness, these can be normal AF signs for me though so nothing to count on. Ever since the m/c I seem to get pg symptoms each month before AF - it is so frustrating! :wall:
I would so love to be pg this cycle (October was my lucky month last year) but at the same time I wonder if it would work out fot the best to wait and see the FS after this cycle to make sure everything is ok. I am so scared after TTC for 12 months that there may be something wrong with me that caused the m/c last time. Irrational I know, I am blaming my hormones! :redface:
Yesterday was one year since the m/c and I was ok, we went out for the day so we didn't stay at home getting depressed. I am actually more upset and emotional today which is strange. I have visitors coming soon so I had better pull myself together.
Sorry to ramble on, just needed some feedback and advice if anyone has any?
Mannie - hope you're doing ok. :hug:
Angel - where are you?
WTH - Sorry to hear about your BFN. :hug:
Possums - cry when you need to. I often shed a few tears when I am driving by myself because I find that is when I have the time alone to think about our loss and our hopes for the future.
Ruthie - As you requested - sending AF vibes your way (you can have mine for this month!).
Mollycat - Thanks for the hug.
Rach78 - :welcome: but wish you didn't have to be here. Sorry for your loss.
Big Hi to Jen, plc1805, tutmae, fificlaire, flowerchild and anyone else I have missed! :dance:
Thanks Tutmae and ruthie for your replys!
Tutmae - patience was never my virtue! This is only my 2nd onth ttc after my d&c - I really should give myself a break, hey??
Ruthie - I don't know much about PCOS so not sure on that one?? What are the symptoms? With my m/c twins we conceived the first month we tried - I wasn't stressed about it, didn't use ANY type of fertility/ovulation monitoring at all and just had to take a guess as to when I might have o'ed as my cycle varies in length a bit usually. having said that, I must have o'ed around day 15 that time around with the EDD that we were given for those baies (which is why I'm weireded out by the day 23/24 ovulation this onth!). So I think i'm panicking way more than is warranted!! I don't know why i am fussing around with OPK's etc. this time -maybe because I'm desperate??? I'd love more info on PCOS though- is it something I should be concerned about????
Thankyou both for the advice and kind words, big :hug: back to you two!!
xxxx
Hi everyone. I just got back from Melbourne. WICKED was awesome! My friends and I got all dolled up and made a real night of it. My new shoes were killing me by the time we walked back to the hotel, but it was so worth it. Also caught up with a friend from high school. The funny thing was she flew to Adelaide the day after we saw her. But it was the first opportunity she'd had to show us the restaurant/bar culture she's always telling us about. Now I think I need a holiday to recover. LOL.
I haven't had a chance to catch up on whats been going on around here the last few days yet. But Mannie I just want to say that I'm so sorry for you and that I'm thinking of you. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Also thankyou to everyone for all your prayers and thoughts for my cousin. She's having another scan either today or tomorrow. :pray: that there is some good news.
Rach: Oh hun.. I know ..patience is not my virtue either. :rolleyes: I hope that you do take it easier.. (easier said than done) and hopefully that way you can conceive.
About PCOS I just found out I cannot post links here but you can google PCOS and read.. there is a LOT of info on the net. ;)
HannahD: :pray: My thoughts and prayers are for you and your cousin. I hope all turns out well for her. ♥
To all my BB girlies.. OMG I'm SOOOO FRUSTRATED!!!!!!! I swear I thought AF was knocking my door I have had nothing but light spotting for 3 days.. today it's gone. not even spotting..less than that it was only when I wiped.. I'm right now stunned and am asking myself WTF???????:wall:
I'm really frustrated.. it has been 53 or so day since y D&C.. this makes it all even more painful.. I shouldn't have been worrying about this crap right now.. right now I would have been 18weeks5 days.. the only thing that should have been on my mind right now was finding out the gender of my baby.. NOT HITS CRAP!!
I think I hit Rock bottom today.. DAMN I HATE PCOS!!
I hate my body!!... My body KILLS babies.. it's like my womb is a graveyard!!!:wall::crying:
I just want to crawl up in a hole and just cry and fade till I'm no more.:redface:
Good morning ladies! OMG... I feel like it's been a long time since I've done a real post.... not sure I remember how! lol... let's see how this goes...
mollycat--Sorry our chat was cut so short on Fri! Glad to see you got the MSN working, tho! We'll catch up there! *hugs*
Toccara-- Always thinking of you! *hugs*
issy, Van, & Chappas--Hey girls! Big hugs for you!
WTH--Oh, hon.... so sorry! :comfort: Praying for better luck with the higher dose!
Megsmum--Hey cycle buddy! How's all the sniffing and jabbing going? Saying lots of :pray: for this month!
smi--Happy crappy Monday! How was the egg catching this past weekend? OMG... I think I need a wheelchair! :rofl: Hope you're faring the same or better!
Ruthie--Aww, hon.... *hugs* Thinking of you and sending lots of AF vibes your way!
Mel--Saying lots of prayers that those symptoms turn into a BFP for you! Sounds promising!
Rach--It's so frustrating when our bodies do something different than what we're used to, or what we want! *hugs* There's still times when I think my body's reacting to my m/c, and this is my 9th cycle since! I say go with your fertility signs... if you've got fertile CM and high CP, keep up with the BD'ing! There's lots of positive charts with late O--you can always go through the chart gallery on FF and compare yours with ones they have on there. Good luck, hon!
Hey tut! :stickyvibesgirl: and bellyrubs for little Button! *kiss*
Possums--:hug: It will get easier, I promise! Thinking of you!
Hannah--Glad you enjoyed your Melbourne trip and Wicked! Sounds like you had lots of fun! Lots of prayers for your cousin's upcoming scan! *hugs*
Krystie--Always thinking of you and little Chyan! Miss you much! *hugs* and :bellyrubs:
dellydoo, Melissa, Tam (where you been, Sleezy?), anneebee, Emmykate, babymiracles, joni, missbec, Milla, Indy, babyonboard, mumma&bubba, & Rachel .... thinking of you all and hope you're doing well! *hugs*
Mannie-- :comfort: You're in my heart, thoughts, and prayers!
joey, fifi, larz, pbstar, tina, plc, AJC, Katiegirl, Rachel S, and Leyza-- :stickyvibesgirl:
Hello ladies
sorry, haven't been here for a while...my Internet was down for a while.
Grrrr...AF the b*tch showed up today. Can't stand her...BUT... the good news is this: thanks to TCM I now have a 28 day cycle with a day 14 ovulation:D - how great is that??
Rach - it's possible to ovulate late and it's also possible to have a 9 day LP. As the other wise women have said it's also possible that that body of yours is just recovering... If you don't conceive this cycle b6 and vitex can aid with lengthening the LP...
Ruthie: That body of yurs is beautiful and strong and it gave yu yur son - try to remember the positive my love. Try to remember the wonderful things it can do. I can really understand the womb is a graveyard illustration - but you have to really really try not to believe that. You have to visualise your uterus as fertile, warm and safe. Keep that loving light flowing to your womb - and love filling it. Try to turn those thoughts around... :comfort:
I am sorry you are feeling so down and frustrated - I really understand and hope that this spotting stops soon... Love to you strong woman. :hug:
Mannie: You sound so strong and courageous - I am so glad that your faith helps you... :hug: Love & support to you while you heal... :comfort: