Thanks, Milla! Good for you for being so proactive in attaining your goal--you're such a trooper! Hope you're enjoying your weekend!
Me--Had a slight temp drop yesterday, and a nice increase this am... yesterday's dip was implantation! Today is also THE day.... it's the day of the return of my lunar phase.... so going to give Dr. Jonas a little test to see if his theory really works.
"The calculator produces dates and times for your lunar phase returns, when the current phase of the Moon repeats the phase at the moment your birth. According to the discovery of Dr. Jonas, if you want to use the increased fertility that, as he found, accompanies this moment, you should have an intercourse in 24 hour period preceding this moment." The date it gave me was Oct. 12, at 4:09 pm... which means today beginning at 4:09 pm... and calendar says girl! Looks like DF's getting lucky tonight! Time to pull those BD shoes back out of the closet!
Hen (this was actually a mistake but I guess it's a combo of Jen and Hun and also is appropriate cos you are a bit of a mother hen on this thread - I'll try it a bit and see if it sits - lol!!) Aren't you clever to have worked out your lunar phase. I so hope it works. C'mon you and I know that those BD shoes are really BD cowgirl boots Go get him girlfriend!!!
I really missed you guys last Friday - the mind and heart were willing but the body won out in the end. Big hug to you for the lovely support you are!
Thanks, plc! I guess Hen is appropriate if only due to that "cool chick Jen" pic that Krystie made of me! Do you remember that one? I'll have to e-mail you the one that she edited of me with Angel and Krystie! It's hilarious!
Here's hoping that Dr. Jonas knows what he's talking about! I'm really it's true, especially after issy saying it worked for her every time! Krystie's been too sick, but I'm waiting to hear from her whether it worked for her, since she was going to give it a try that month that she fell pg. Working on his theory already! Already got my boots on! Yeeeeeeeeehaw!
Jen - was lovely to have a little chat. lol at your thoughts of a new emoticon for throwing DH/DF or similar. he he he. I almost did that yesterday, had to throw a tanti for DH to mow the lawn. It was getting soooo long, I know we've had some rain but geez the place was looking like a jungle. All done now though & the emoticon would have come in handy then, he he he.
rach78 - the ladies in here are FABULOUS!! Say whatever you need to say because someone in here will understand and be able to help make you feel normal, and when you feel normal you do feel better. It's a tough tough journey and I wish no-one had to go through it. I find for me that it was the ladies in here who made me feel better, and time. It doesn't get easier but you just seem to learn over time how to handle your emotions. It's gutting when it feels like everyone around you is pregnant, try not to be too hard on yourself though. Don't feel selfish about your reaction, to be jealous (although completely happy for them) is totally NORMAL so don't think there is anything wrong with what you are feeling. Good luck and I promise the ladies in here will make your ttcaml journey (which I hope is really short) as nice as possible through their support..... and once you get to know them whacky sense of humour.
larz - 1 more sleep to go! ! ! ! Good luck - as soon as you see that little heartbeat you'll relax and just enjoy the rest! ! !
mollycat - I have so done that before too. It was earlier this year and I saw a friend out shopping who had just had a Bub. I saw them from a distance so just enough time to walk in the other direction. I felt really but about it but as you say, self preservation. I'd seen her heavily pregnant just before christmas and literally bumped right into her so no avoiding it but it was a bit awkward. You gotta do what you gotta do. Big Hugs.
Anyway - the shower is calling me, lazy day today. Can't wait to see lots of BFP's in here! ! ! Sending all of you all the luck in the world.
Dear Angel, Mollycat, Plc, jen, Milla and Ajc.....
Thankyou dear ladies for making me feel so welcome and comfortable to talk here, I already feel a bit better for it.
It is comforting to finally hear that what I'm feeing is normal, that it is ok to be feeling the way I am with no pressure to be any other way. It's the first time i've felt normal (whatever that is!!!) for a while. I can accept the pain, face it and know now that I can move on from this place that I am in right now, when I am ready too (and not a minute before!). Reading your posts has already made me feel stronger, and seeing that a couple of you are expecting little one's, well that is the best news I could hear right now!
Milla, thankyou for pointing me in the direction of the September posts, I will have a look there. You seem like quite a resilient woman, you have inspired me to try and look at the positives and have reminded me that I need to look after myself!!! I totally understand where you are coming from, not being able to face your friends the same way you once would have. After posting for the first time here last night, one of my sisters phoned me to tell me that she is pregnant! it couldn't have happened at a worse time (the phonecall, I mean) and I sobbed and sobbed on the phone to her even before she told me her news. My other sister is also pregnant and due 3 days before what would have been my due date. These are my sisters and i can't bear to talk to them at the moment. I could tell that my sister didn't really want to tell me her news last night, and she cried and told me that she was hoping that i was going to tell her that i was pregnant too! That was hard, I want to be there for my sisters and support them and be happy for them, but can't control the way i'm reacting to their pregnancies. But I'll get there, I know.....
Angel, thankyou for inviting me to look at your website. I must admit that I cried the entire time that I read through it but you come across as a truly inspirational, brave and strong woman. I love the 'shoes' poem, I have printed it off and will keep it with me to remind that i'm not alone....
Thankyou again to all of you, I leave here feeling much happier than I was yesterday.
I feel that this is going to be a great place to be......
rach - Sorry for your losses. But welcome. You'll find the ladies here fantastic (I think you've already found that out). They were the ones who told me that what I was feeling was okay. Once I gave myself permission to feel what I was feeling I started to heal.
Its tough when those around you are pregnant. Just be honest with your sisters about your feelings and when you're ready you can deal with their pregnancies. My cousin is due 4 days before I was and I haven't even spoken to her yet. But there's a whole history there which I won't go into. I just want you to know that the mixed reactions in you aren't unusual and are perfectly okay.
mollycat - Glad AF is finally easing up on you. Isn't renovating fun? *sarcasm* Its exciting when stuff gets done but there seems to be so much waiting on trades people.
plc - Of course you're welcome here. You remind us that it is possible. Hope all is well for you.
jen - you get your BFP this month. Things are good with me this week. DH and I have been focused on "reconnecting". Last month wasn't a good one for me and I think I neglected him a bit and treated him as a means by which to get pregnant. But things are really great between us at the moment - the temperature is just right for making babies.
milla - Congrats on taking the step to seek counselling. I hope it helps you.
Hi to tutmae, dellydoo, easha, fifi, joey, jenushka, mannie, angel, megsmum, ajc, tam and anyone else I have missed.
Sorry for the lack of persies, Im afraid its back to uni for me and the work load is INCREDIBLY HUGE!!!!! So this will have to be short and sweet so I can get back to it (yuk....and its a Sunday too )
So...here is a HUGE for all you lovely ladies, I hope you are all doing well.
Although I tried to convince myself not to ttc, I have decided to keep trying. Im not expecting any miracles, I still have a long way to go to get my body in order, but we'll try anyway and cross that bridge when we get there. Also my lunar cycle is in sync with my menstrual cycle, so my best shot is this month....and Im taking it! 18th October is ov day, so iif im a bit quiet in here.....you know where ill be...
I started the macca powder last week too...GROSS! Oh the things we do!
Love to all you gorgeous girls, Ill try and get back in here for persies soon.
Thank you smi, mollycat, Mannie, easha , angel, joey (yay for seeing little aussie's heartbeat!) for your congratulations and kind wishes
jen - your chart is looking so hot right now, I swear it's about to go triphasic. How exciting! Oooh, the 26th June .... would love love love to be belly buddies! and that the bd boots and/or Jonas come up with the goods for you!
Milla and rach78 - I see that the ladies in here have all given their opinion on the seeing a counsellor topic and I have to say that I found myself in pretty much the same boat as them. Being a part of this forum was the most healing place for me so I found myself coming here to talk about the pain that I was feeling, and got an incredible amount of compassion and support. I was given a referral by my gp, then by my ob to a counsellor, particularly after the loss of my second angel this year when I was finding it a bit longer to get back to "normal", but never found myself making an appt. I actually did see one of the free counsellors through work but that was a pretty useless experience - what AJC experienced was exactly the same thing I did - I started talking and blubbed my way through an hour while she just stared at me and I wound up feeling worse. I was hoping to get some coping strategies, but all I got was a handout on grief and loss as I was leaving! I think the main aim is to find someone who specialises in our type of grief/loss - you'll also know if their good if you walk away feeling better. Good luck with whatever you both decide.
wth - I am so sorry to hear about your bt results. I hope you are doing ok there.... how is dh recovering?
megsmum - go fred! Hope everything went well - it was today wasn't it? Can't let fred get away from those (complete with sat nav of course!)
plc - thank you for your positivity and support. Please never stop popping in here. And omg - 27 weeks!
Easha - wow - you are so 2ww strong! when are you poas? Those temps are looking amazing!!
afm - well, the state of pure positivity, strength and zen-ness lasted about 48 hours! Got a couple of very small bits of spotting over the last couple of days - am pretty sure it is implantation spotting with Bean snuggling in tight, as I get it on the day AF would be due with every pg. Still pretty freaky though (spotting = BAD after a m/c) but think I am doing a lot better now, as it seems to have eased up . Just took myself off to bed for a day just in case Also took another hpt this morning and the test line was as dark as the control line - very reassuring.
So am now zen. ish. kinda. (thanks tutmae - fits me perfectly!!)
Hugs, hellos, babydust and stickyvibes to Hannah, dellydoo, AJC, fif, larz, ruthie (how are you?), toccara, krystielove, and anyone else I have probably missed!!
xx
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my gosh - the temp is up again this morning and the BB's are getting sore - I so dont want to jinx myself so must keep quite and hold on another 24 hours or so. The temp tomorrow should be even more interesting.
HannahD - So hard waiting on the "tradespeople" when we're "IT". We're doing this bit ourselves (as much as we can). We had a builder in earlier this year to do an extension and that freed up a room (the old kitchen) which we are converting in to a bedroom, next to that was a bathroom (we're turning that into an en-suite.) DH works for a plasterer (his boss owns two different companies), so hopefully he'll come in and do the internal walls for us (should only take a couple of hours), but we'll need a few others to come in and do some bits for us - the rest is us on weekends. We both work long hours through the week so that's mainly impossible (I work from home).
Easha - for another high temp tomorrow. You're doing so well holding out on a POAS. Your temps look great. Hope for you a BFP is on it's way.
Jenushka - all the best with bean snuggling in really tight. It's always a worry, and I think we worry so much with every little niggle. Rest up and enjoy the next nine months.
Krystie - hope the m/s doesn't last too much longer. Miss you round here.
Joey - hope little aussie is doing okay. I remember reading you saw a little heart beat. That's wonderful.
I'd better go and finish getting tea organised for my lovelies. I'll try to pop back in later.
Rach78- I know how u feel! I have had one loss and been trying for 2 years with no success! everytime i get AF i cry on my partners shoulder. My EDD is coming up in november and i dont know how to deal with it. I hate seeing pregnant women although i know its a terrible thought. my friend was preg at the same time as me even though she was on the pill and that hurt more when she gave birth recently. Im currently waiting on my AF (2 more days) and i dread it. I'm currently also in "a hole" and hate the waiting game and think its one more day closer to taking a baby home. just have a good cry and get some junk food thats what I do!
Jen805- Hi there im going to get the B6 once auntie flow starts on wednesday. and I dont know how long he will be gone, they dont tell you! approx 3 months i think, well he thinks so not toooo long i guess compared to some other soldiers. Anyway have a nicer day than me!
mollycat - Congrats on doing the reno work yourselves. DH tried to do what he could, but always complained that he never had the right tools. I'm happy to wait for people if they do a good job (which they all have so far) and its still much quicker than it takes DH to do. LOL
jen - oops! I just realised temperature was probably not the right word to use here. Would climate be better? I meant to say that with things between DH and I being so healthy and loving, its got to be good for a chances of conceiving this month. I promised DH that I wouldn't get too obsessed and start charting. It is tempting though, to have that daily ritual.
HannahD - that's exactly why I insisted on a builder to the extension. It would have taken us forever. DH wanted to do it himself but I wouldn't let him. I've been very tempted to ring the builder back and get him in to do this room but I know we can do it cheaper and it's more satisfying.
I'm 28 soon to be 29 - Arghhhhh! I have a wonderful partner Scott who is 32 and an amazing 4 yr old DS from my first marriage and 2 gorgeous step DD's from my partners first marriage... We are TTC our first, my second and his third!
I had a missed miscarriage diagnosed on the 30th of September at 9 weeks and a D&C performed on 2nd October. It was really hard and our hearts broke but I was encouraged by everyone to grieve the way I needed to and all my feelings were validated - by family, friends and medical professionals - the nurses and doctors were brilliant and I think it's because of this that I have healed so well...
We have the go ahead to start TTC again but we are going to wait till the next cycle...
As much as I want to be pregnant again, emotionally I'm not ready. Each day is getting easier and better so I figure by next cycle we will be ready and we will just take this month as it comes...
It's still sad and I still shed a tear but I am holding up pretty well...
It's pretty frightening thinking about TTC again - what if the same thing happens but I don't let myself ponder it. I'm staying positive that I will cope and everything will be fine!
Anyway, looking forward to sharing our journeys together and getting to know you all...
missbec....... take it easy on yourself...... it is only the 13th October today...... so your D&C was 11 days ago...... I m thrilled that people around you encouraged you to greive and heal at your pace...... but dont rush it. Dont do what I am normally so guilty of doing..... and thats thinking everything will be fine and pushing myself to keep going.... I ve learnt that you need to be kinder to yourself... you need to let yourself heal and not rush it.... Just Be..... Time is the healer..... One Day At A Time..... I say this over and over and over again to ladies in here... and I sound repetative at times.... but it is the best advice I can give you.... Allow yourself to be.... what I mean by that is BE cranky..... BE sad.... BE frustrated.... Yell... Scream... Cry.... whatever... it doesnt matter.... Just BE........ Then take it one day at a time and one day soon the Fog will lift and you will know in yourself when you are ready.... BUT take it easy on yourself.......
Now thats 3 new ladies in as many days and I wish like hell I could close the doors on this thread because no one needed it anymore.... but the sad thing is that as one person leaves another one or two.... or three join..... So MissBec... welcome to our thread..... I wish you didnt have to be here..... and I hope your stay is a short one..
I am definately taking it one day at a time. I can't afford to push myself because I have to be ok to look after my DS... I let myself feel what I need to, if I need to cry, I cry - if I'm cranky then I be cranky but I always apologise lol...
I'm one of those people that need to be organised and have a plan...
Which is why we have discussed the next cycle already but with the understanding that if neither of us are ready then it will be the cycle after that or so on...
I can't believe it has only been 11 days! It feels like so much longer...
missbec - Welcome to the thread and I'm so sorry for your loss. I too had a missed miscarriage, it is just such a shock to find out when you think things are going along well Angel has given you such good advice that I won't add to it, as usual she is so right. Take care of yourself.
mollycat and Angel - Thanks back to you two for the banter the other day It was so funny and just what I needed too!
chappas - So sorry about the BFN, I hope it changes into a BFP for you!
Easha - Sounds promising! Good luck, hope that temp went up today!
jenushka - Thanks for that, yep it was yesterday and all went well I hope your spotting has stopped by now, how stressful for you. Take it easy!
issy - Good luck, that all sounds really promising for you!
Jen - Cycle buddy! I'm finally in the TWW with you
rach78 - Hi and welcome I hope your stay with us is short. It really is one step forward and two steps backwards after a m/c - well that's how I found it anyway. I really think that all you can do is look after yourself and just let yourself feel whatever you feel. It is normal to have feelings like you about other people and their babies when you have just had a m/c, you are not being self centred at all. I saw a Sids and Kids counsellor after my miscarriage and found it helpful, but really the only thing that helped me heal was time. Take care of yourself
A big hello also to HannahD, 21&TTC#1, fifi, Milla and anyone else that I have missed, hope you are all doing OK.
AFM, I had the IUI done yesterday and all went well, DH even backed it up with some action too God love him LOL! Anyway I'm finally in the TWW and have some more injections to give myself over the next week for luteal phase support (needed because of the IVF medication I have been on), but I am feeling really relaxed about this cycle. AF is due on the 27th, so I'll have to take myself in to the clinic for a BT if she doesn't show by then. If this cycle doesn't work out we'll go straight to another IVF cycle (a shorter one this time) so I have none of the pressure that I have felt in previous cycles for them to be successful so we would avoid IVF (if that makes any sense! LOL). And I have been out for a bit of retail therapy today while my DD is at preschool, what do you want to bet that I fall pg now that I have spent $400 on new summer clothes!!! But I'm feeling good after a bit of a splurge
ETA - larz, we were posting at the same time but I'm so glad to hear your scan went well, and have fun telling everyone!
Hi beautiful girls! Quick post while I'm in the land of the living
To all the new ladies, I am so very sorry for your losses I am very glad that you have found this thread because all the girls in here are amazing. They will hold your hand through anything and everything.
Mollycat - Not sure if I've told you yet, but I love your avi!
To my fabs, Angel, Jen and PLC - I miss you all dearly!!! I'm sure my m/s will go away soon and I'll be back in the chat room with you all causing trouble!
Jen - In answer to your Lunar question... My lunar peak was always the opposite of my natural cycle. My lunar peak was always towards the end of my TWW when I was too scared to dtd, lol. This last cycle my lunar peak was meant to be on Father's Day, which was when I got my first positive, so we decided that we probably didn't need to dtd again I always read though that it was best if the lunar peak either coincided with ovulation or AF... Actually, I have a book that a lovely member on BB gave to me for free. I told her that once I was done with it I would pass on the favour and send it free to someone else. Would you like me to send it to you? It's about natural fertility and it has a lot about the Lunar cycle in there...
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